Any Lap Banded men here?
I was all sett to go with bypass when I discovered that where I work there are about 10 people who have had WLS. 7 have had a lap band, 3 RNY. all 7 lap banders have lost all or most of their weight, the three who have had RNY have lost all of their excess weight, then gained back about half or more. Interesting.
One woman that I talked to at length yesterday said the pouch stretches, the band will not, so she is eating the same amount she did when she first got the band. A guy I know who had RNY eats constantly. small bites yes, but over a course of an hour he eat a large bag of chips, a candy bar and drinks a can of regular coke.
She stated the part of the stomach that "shuts off" the appetite is at the very top next to the esophagus, and when she eats one of those 100 calorie back of snack crackers she is stuffed.
Is this true? do you really feel satisfied and full, or is it just a pain that goes away shortly and the appetite resumes?
One woman that I talked to at length yesterday said the pouch stretches, the band will not, so she is eating the same amount she did when she first got the band. A guy I know who had RNY eats constantly. small bites yes, but over a course of an hour he eat a large bag of chips, a candy bar and drinks a can of regular coke.
She stated the part of the stomach that "shuts off" the appetite is at the very top next to the esophagus, and when she eats one of those 100 calorie back of snack crackers she is stuffed.
Is this true? do you really feel satisfied and full, or is it just a pain that goes away shortly and the appetite resumes?
Sam,
What the guy is doing is what he is NOT SUPPOSED TO DO WITH AN RNY!! He is not working his tool like he should to lose weight and keep it off. Chips, candy bars and soft drinks are not on the diet. Evidently he does not dump on sugar and is taking advantage of it instead of using that knowledge to limit of his food intake.
As to feeling satisfied yes you will. Any pain you feel from your pouch is your pouch "reeducating" your head on how to eat properly. Dumping can be very uncomfortable. As much as I would love a 16 oz T-bone I can be just as satisfied with 1/4 of that. I had shrimp gumbo for supper last night. I picked out the shrimp, protein first, and after I had eaten them I got a few spoonfuls of the roux (soupy part) minus the rice. I had enough.
Regardless of the procedure that you have if you don't work it like you are supposed to then it isn't going to work!
What the guy is doing is what he is NOT SUPPOSED TO DO WITH AN RNY!! He is not working his tool like he should to lose weight and keep it off. Chips, candy bars and soft drinks are not on the diet. Evidently he does not dump on sugar and is taking advantage of it instead of using that knowledge to limit of his food intake.
As to feeling satisfied yes you will. Any pain you feel from your pouch is your pouch "reeducating" your head on how to eat properly. Dumping can be very uncomfortable. As much as I would love a 16 oz T-bone I can be just as satisfied with 1/4 of that. I had shrimp gumbo for supper last night. I picked out the shrimp, protein first, and after I had eaten them I got a few spoonfuls of the roux (soupy part) minus the rice. I had enough.
Regardless of the procedure that you have if you don't work it like you are supposed to then it isn't going to work!
Never, and I mean NEVER, trust a fart!! 
Hey Sam,
If you read up on my profile, you'll note that I am indeed a "banded brother", and one that had a great success with the TOOL...and sadly, one that got complacent and lazy and back-slid putting on aprox. 30-40 of my lost 100.
Now I'm facing additional surgery to replace a bad port, no biggie, just more expense which the insurance company may or may not cover...but I can't wait around to figure it out so I'm going in in 3 weeks.
Now on the band....YES it is a great TOOL. Read TOOL..T-O-O-L...not cure as in C-U-R-E. Don't mean to be elementary to anyone, but it's my way of reminding others, as well as myself that ANY surgical procedure will only allow us a chance, we have to become the believers and work that chance to success!
The band does indeed make a small "egg size" pouch of the upper stomach, within that area is vargal ( close if not exact wording...) nerve which acts as a "switch", when the stomach is filled, it hits that "switch" and signals the brain to stop shoveling it in. Many banded folks become aware of a signal or sensation just prior to that "switch" being thrown....with me, when I paid attention I realized my right side nostril began to "run" just the tiniest of bits. Don't ask me why. Other's I'm in contact with would have a slight sneeze...still others their ear lobe "warmed up"...others...nothing, or at least nothing they became aware of.
If one pays attention to that signal, and not their head that is trying to shout "that's not enough food to eat, you're still hungry"! the band can be an especially effective TOOL. (there's that reminder again). The "full" sensation lasts for quite sometime. The actual 'full" feeling will depend on the food choices you've made...soups and stuff of course wont' stay in the upper part of that 'funnel" as long and so one could expect to think they're hungry sooner.
Most banded folks won't tolerate breads, over-cooked meats etc.. You'll know if it's "stuck" by a pretty good pain or discomfort under your sternum...it passes as the food finally drops into the lower stomach portion. Some folks with a "stuck" will experience what we call 'the foamies"...a thick, and unpleasant amount of saliva that in fact is produced by the body to try to lubricate the esophagus to slide that blockage though...because it's plugged it tends to back up and out instead....one learns like with any surgery what we can handle, how much we can handle, and what is "off limits" for us.
I'm sure you're talking to alot of folks, checking out all your surgical options, that's great...just keep in mind that most folks tend to advocate for the surgery they selected...myself included. One size does not fit all!! So take all personal witness as just that...someone's personal experience.
My research when looking into surgery back in 2005 showed me that ON AVERAGE the banded patient and the by-passed patient ended their weight loss within 5% of each other in excess weight lost. The banded patient was slower of course, ( I lost 100lbs in 363 days...others were faster, many others slower) but they tended to ON AVERAGE maintain that loss better. I'm NOT one of those, I had what the surgeon claims is a faulty port, a leaker...and I have had not real restriction for several months as we regrouped. MY fault was in starting to think I had a free ride during these last few months to 'party on"...and I've completely lost that mental edge that one needs to succeed.
I will be rebanded...I will be given, or rather, purchase for myself, another chance to get back in the game.
Sorry for the long ramble...I tend to be a passionate writer, mostly as a mechanism to keep myself jacked back up!!
If you read up on my profile, you'll note that I am indeed a "banded brother", and one that had a great success with the TOOL...and sadly, one that got complacent and lazy and back-slid putting on aprox. 30-40 of my lost 100.
Now I'm facing additional surgery to replace a bad port, no biggie, just more expense which the insurance company may or may not cover...but I can't wait around to figure it out so I'm going in in 3 weeks.
Now on the band....YES it is a great TOOL. Read TOOL..T-O-O-L...not cure as in C-U-R-E. Don't mean to be elementary to anyone, but it's my way of reminding others, as well as myself that ANY surgical procedure will only allow us a chance, we have to become the believers and work that chance to success!
The band does indeed make a small "egg size" pouch of the upper stomach, within that area is vargal ( close if not exact wording...) nerve which acts as a "switch", when the stomach is filled, it hits that "switch" and signals the brain to stop shoveling it in. Many banded folks become aware of a signal or sensation just prior to that "switch" being thrown....with me, when I paid attention I realized my right side nostril began to "run" just the tiniest of bits. Don't ask me why. Other's I'm in contact with would have a slight sneeze...still others their ear lobe "warmed up"...others...nothing, or at least nothing they became aware of.
If one pays attention to that signal, and not their head that is trying to shout "that's not enough food to eat, you're still hungry"! the band can be an especially effective TOOL. (there's that reminder again). The "full" sensation lasts for quite sometime. The actual 'full" feeling will depend on the food choices you've made...soups and stuff of course wont' stay in the upper part of that 'funnel" as long and so one could expect to think they're hungry sooner.
Most banded folks won't tolerate breads, over-cooked meats etc.. You'll know if it's "stuck" by a pretty good pain or discomfort under your sternum...it passes as the food finally drops into the lower stomach portion. Some folks with a "stuck" will experience what we call 'the foamies"...a thick, and unpleasant amount of saliva that in fact is produced by the body to try to lubricate the esophagus to slide that blockage though...because it's plugged it tends to back up and out instead....one learns like with any surgery what we can handle, how much we can handle, and what is "off limits" for us.
I'm sure you're talking to alot of folks, checking out all your surgical options, that's great...just keep in mind that most folks tend to advocate for the surgery they selected...myself included. One size does not fit all!! So take all personal witness as just that...someone's personal experience.
My research when looking into surgery back in 2005 showed me that ON AVERAGE the banded patient and the by-passed patient ended their weight loss within 5% of each other in excess weight lost. The banded patient was slower of course, ( I lost 100lbs in 363 days...others were faster, many others slower) but they tended to ON AVERAGE maintain that loss better. I'm NOT one of those, I had what the surgeon claims is a faulty port, a leaker...and I have had not real restriction for several months as we regrouped. MY fault was in starting to think I had a free ride during these last few months to 'party on"...and I've completely lost that mental edge that one needs to succeed.
I will be rebanded...I will be given, or rather, purchase for myself, another chance to get back in the game.
Sorry for the long ramble...I tend to be a passionate writer, mostly as a mechanism to keep myself jacked back up!!
Padre Jeff!!!
Blast from the Past!!
Been missing you for a while!
Sorry to hear about your leaky port,
Glad to hear you are headed back on track!
Great post!
(even if a little long...
)
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Best Wishes- Dx
Blast from the Past!!
Been missing you for a while!Sorry to hear about your leaky port,
Glad to hear you are headed back on track!
Great post!
(even if a little long...
)__________________
Best Wishes- Dx
Capricious; Impulsive, Semi-Predictable 
Great job Jeff ! could NOT have said it better ; no really . LOL
It's good to have you back brother .
I am banded too . My wife is also been banded . My 22 year old daughter is hopeing the have lap-band also , two kids have not been kind to her body .
I have lost all the weight I needed to and a little more .I do think the extra weight lose is due to my passion for cycling though . I'v lost 125 lbs and have kept it off for almost 3 yrs now . The wife has nad almost the same , but has had to work alot harder for every lb she has lost !
( Men lose faster then women )
Best wishes
Nick
It's good to have you back brother .
I am banded too . My wife is also been banded . My 22 year old daughter is hopeing the have lap-band also , two kids have not been kind to her body .
I have lost all the weight I needed to and a little more .I do think the extra weight lose is due to my passion for cycling though . I'v lost 125 lbs and have kept it off for almost 3 yrs now . The wife has nad almost the same , but has had to work alot harder for every lb she has lost !
( Men lose faster then women )
Best wishes
Nick
What jvolker said - great reply - .... plus my extra 2 cents:
It will take a few adjustments to your band ("fills") to get to the point of fullness. Until then, you may be very able to eat almost as much as you had in the past, especially in the month to six weeks following surgery. And, as you shed weight, it is important to keep tabs on how much it takes you to be satisified since your the stoma - opening from the pouch to the rest of the stomach - can open as your stomach shrinks and allows you to eat more. This, in turn, slows down your weight loss. Overeating will result in the foamies and/or vomiting. Long-term overeating and vomiting will stretch your pouch and leave you at risk for the band slipping or eroding into the side of the stretched pouch. I will add this is why its important to follow up with your surgeon on a regular basis and have the band adjusted as needed to maintain your weight loss and prevent complications. My adjustments are done under a fluoroscope, so my surgeon is able to see what's going on with the band during each fill.
I can only offer short-term experience, but so far, the ride has been great: quick surgical recovery, constant weight loss, and a much-improved lifestyle. And, I am satisfiled with a meal of very small portions. But, like any modification to your original equipment, its not without risks. Good luck as you do your research.
It will take a few adjustments to your band ("fills") to get to the point of fullness. Until then, you may be very able to eat almost as much as you had in the past, especially in the month to six weeks following surgery. And, as you shed weight, it is important to keep tabs on how much it takes you to be satisified since your the stoma - opening from the pouch to the rest of the stomach - can open as your stomach shrinks and allows you to eat more. This, in turn, slows down your weight loss. Overeating will result in the foamies and/or vomiting. Long-term overeating and vomiting will stretch your pouch and leave you at risk for the band slipping or eroding into the side of the stretched pouch. I will add this is why its important to follow up with your surgeon on a regular basis and have the band adjusted as needed to maintain your weight loss and prevent complications. My adjustments are done under a fluoroscope, so my surgeon is able to see what's going on with the band during each fill.
I can only offer short-term experience, but so far, the ride has been great: quick surgical recovery, constant weight loss, and a much-improved lifestyle. And, I am satisfiled with a meal of very small portions. But, like any modification to your original equipment, its not without risks. Good luck as you do your research.
"It was a long way, but he knew where he was going." Corey Ford, The Road to Tinkhamtown.
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