Eating pizza - before and after

Christina S
on 11/10/09 9:22 pm - Charlotte, NC
We agree to disagree. There are to many people on here that will fail there tool by waiting to throw down pizza constantly. My advice is to hold off absolutely until will power can be established.
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Cleopatra_Nik
on 11/10/09 9:33 pm - Baltimore, MD

Agreed then. I know that even in the beginning I ate things that I ate before and it did not doom me to failure. It did, however, make me not feel like a space alien.

I do agree with you with respect to the fact that if you feel like pizza is a trigger, you should treat it that way but neither of us knows if it is (and to say that she ate a lot of it before makes it a trigger wouldn't be necessarily true. I used to eat a pack of Oreo cookies in a sitting and now I could care less if I ever see the ruddy things again whereas I wasn't the biggest peanut butter fan and now feel like I'll die if I don't get at least a tbsp a day...).
 

I'm speaking from a place of seeing folks NOT torture themselves as much as I did and ending up losing more weight and were more mentally stable than I am in the process. Just sayin.

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Christina S
on 11/10/09 9:40 pm - Charlotte, NC
Agreeing to disagree.
311 / 290 / 162! / 160 / 162
         
Start  * Surgery  * Current  * surgeons goal *My goal

                            150 Pounds Gone Forever! 
Laura in Texas
on 11/11/09 6:00 pm
RNY on 09/17/08 with
Well said, Nik!!  I am also on your bandwagon.  Pizza is my all time fav.  If sometome told me NOT to eat pizza, THAT would drive me insane.  And interestingly enough, during my losing phase, we got pizza about once a month.  The day after I ate it, I ALWAYS lost at least 3 pounds overnight.  It was as though my body needed the extra calories or fat to release the weight.  It was my stall-breaker. 

Everything in moderation is the key to our long-term success.

Laura

Laura in Texas

53 years old; 5'7" tall; HW: 339 (BMI=53); GW: 140 CW: 170 (BMI=27)

RNY: 09-17-08 Dr. Garth Davis

brachioplasty: 12-18-09 Dr. Wainwright; lbl/bl: 06-28-11 Dr. LoMonaco

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ravengrrl
on 11/11/09 11:53 pm - Thornton, CO
On November 11, 2009 at 5:19 AM Pacific Time, Cleopatra_Nik wrote:

Yeah. I gotta disagree with you on this one. I am 2 years out and maintaining a 155 lb. loss. I too can only eat about a slice of pizza and I do. Lifestyle change means different things to different folks. To ME it means I eat the things I like in reasonable portions and in moderation when necessary (and I have to force moderation with some stuff but it works for me).

Denying oneself is one of the quickest routes to FAILURE. Why? Because it's a set up!

You tell yourself to stay away from the "bad" pizza and all of a sudden the pizza becomes a damn deity. You worship the pizza. You revere the pizza. All you can think about IS the pizza. Then when you "cave" and have a slice you are a failure.

I don't choose that narrative. My narrative is that I have an overall daily food budget that allows a certain number of calories, carbs, fat, and protein. IF, and only if, I can fit my slice of pizza in with what else I have going on that day, I have it. If there is something I want more than the pizza that makes it impossible to work, I have that. But I don't deny. I never deny. And I journal my food everyday and my calories are still 40% protein, 35% carbs, 25% fat.

So while I respect your disdain for pizza eating...I would encourage you not to project that onto other folks who have a system that works for them. If her system is she has a slice when she wants one, plans for it, accommodates it with activity and goes on about her life, I think that's fine. The surgery is not meant to address everyone's head issues the same way.

Nik is right and her line of thinking goes right along with my therapists.  If you see certain foods as taboo, you are setting yourself up for some serious failure and bingeing.  We need to develop a healthy relationship with food and that means allowing yourself to indulge every now and then in your favorite foods.  We all know that when you treat foods as "bad," we continue to crave them more and at some point, you will break and end up eating WAY more than you even wanted and for longer than you intended.  That advice doesn't just come from myself and Nik, but a board certified therapist who specializes in eating disorders.  It's okay that someone chooses to avoid foods such as pizza, but projecting those ideas on to someone else and perhaps shaming them with regard to their food choices is not necessarily helpful (though I know the poster's intent was to help and I respect and appreciate that) and could be setting someone else up for a binge situation.

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Pam M.
on 11/11/09 2:16 am - WA
Thanks for your comments, but my entire post was to point out the HUGE difference in my pre-op and post-op eating. Huge. One slice of a medium ham and pineapple pizza, as compared to 5 or 6 slices preceded by hotwings and ranch dressing is a vast improvement.

I had weight loss surgery so I could eat like a normal person. Normal people sometimes have pizza, they just don't eat it in the quantities that an obese person would. Even my surgeon shares my attitude. He tells me that in a year's time, when I go out to eat Mexican food with my friends, they will ordering huge platters of food, and I will be eating something off of the entree menu.

A whole wheat tortilla (yuck) with low fat mozzarella (double yuck!) will not fix the craving. If works for you, right on! But me, once in a while I'm going to enjoy a slice of real pizza. I've lost 85 pounds in less than 6 months, so what I am doing seems to be working.

You don't have to be a martyr to be a successful RNY patient.


~My story on my revision to RNY from the lap-band is in my profile~

 

     

JenStock1970
on 11/11/09 6:34 am - Bay Shore Of, NJ
Couldn't have said it better myself!
HW 495/Consult 426/SW 363/Current 182
"If you want a guarantee, buy a toaster."-- Clint Eastwood

"Don't compromise yourself.  You are all you've got."-- Janis Joplin

Jupiter6
on 11/11/09 12:20 pm - Near Media, Pa- South of Philly, NJ
I'm with Nikki. I eat pizza just fine, but not very often.

 "Oh sweet and sour Jesus, that is GOOD!" - Stephen Colbert  Lap RNY 7/07-- Lap Gallbladder 5/08--  
     Emergency Bowel Repair
6/08 -Dr. Meilahn, Temple U.  
 Upper and Lower Bleph/Lower Face Lift 
12/08 
     Fraxel Repair 2/09-- Lower Bleph Re-Do 5/09  -Dr. Pontell, Media PA  Mastopexy/Massive 
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sandyfeets
on 11/11/09 12:22 am - Jacksonville, FL
At almost 4 years post-op, I only have pizza about every 6-8 weeks.
Then it's THIN crust (miss that regular crust---but talk about "carb crashing) with "The Works" and extra veggies.  
That way I get meat and cheese, but lots of veggies on there too.
ONE piece and I am SO done!!!

There will be people that say OMG you are eating pizza???(trust me--i didn't eat it for about 6 months at all, and then only the toppings.)
Well yes, why not?  
We had surgery to help us, not punish us.  
EVERYTHING in moderation.
It's about choices.  
If you can't control it----and it controls you, then stay away.
Fried chicken is the devil to me.  I've had fried chicken 6 times in 2 yrs--and just about died.... it does control me... so we are now life enemies.

Cleopatra_Nik
on 11/11/09 5:56 am - Baltimore, MD
OMG chicken skin = a long, painful evening...

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

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