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M M
on 6/21/12 3:25 am
I was on Nightline with Dr. Mitchell Roslin and Dr. Robin Blackstone the other night regarding Alcoholism after roux en y gastric bypass --

Here's a link to the post and the video.

Your thoughts?
Judy M.
on 6/21/12 3:50 am, edited 6/22/12 11:29 am

I think that obese people that get wls do themselves a disservice if they do not address the addiction too. Most obese people are food addicts or have an eating disorder of some type.  Without recovering from their addiction or remaining in denial about it they are 100% likely to relapse either by finding a way to continue their overeating or by developing a new substance i.e. pills, alcohol, gambling, compulsive shopping etcc...

I think of all the addictions food addiction is by far the worst.  The personalities of food addicts tend to be the most difficult to reach humility ( I am not referring to self loathing)

I can always tell which of the wls participants on this site are prone towards alcohlism as they start thinking and talking about drinking immediately after they get home from hospital.

poet_kelly
on 6/21/12 3:55 am - OH
When you say most obese people are food addicts, where is that information coming from?  What percentage of obese people are food addicts?  I haven't ever seen statistics on that.

I'm not addicted to food (and my therapist and my psychiatrist agree with me on that, it's not a matter of me being in denial).  I'm aware that some obese people are food addicts.  Some thin people are, too.  But I'm not sure that most obese people are.

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com          Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR.  If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor.  Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me.  If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her.    Check out my blog.

 

Judy M.
on 6/21/12 3:59 am
poet_kelly
on 6/21/12 4:07 am - OH
I am real.  There are many reasons people overeat and make unhealthy food choices.

For me, the main issue was a long period of severe depression.  I had no energy to cook food and no energy to go grocery shopping.  When I did go to the grocery store, it was extremely stressful for me.  So I ordered pizza for dinner two or three times a week.  When I did go shopping, I stocked up on stuff that required no preparation and that would keep for a long time, like ice cream, boxed dinners with rice, cereal, crackers, etc.

It's disturbing to me that you assume all obese people are mindless addicts.  As I stated earlier, both my licensed therapist and my experienced psychiatrist do not think I am a food addict.  You may not agree with them, perhaps you think they are as mindless as you think I am.  But again, I'd like to see some objective data to back up your claim.  What studies have found that most obese people are food addicts?  At what university were those studies conducted?  In what peer reviewed medical journal were the published?  

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com          Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR.  If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor.  Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me.  If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her.    Check out my blog.

 

Judy M.
on 6/21/12 4:28 am
EXACTLY....My point
        
poet_kelly
on 6/21/12 4:29 am - OH
I must be missing your point.

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com          Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR.  If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor.  Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me.  If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her.    Check out my blog.

 

Adrianne_Dawn
on 6/21/12 4:29 am - WA
RNY on 05/21/12
 I'm with Kelly - Assuming we all have FOOD addictions is really ridiculous.  I do not have an addictive personality what so ever.  PERIOD. 

I have PCOS that causes me to gain weight in my midsection amongst other things. It also makes me insulin resistant much like a diabetic.  This is not to say I didn't eat fast food on occasion or go for simple things to eat.  Being single I don't make meals for a family therefore it was what was the easiest.  That did not help the contributing factors of course.  

I'm not saying I'm perfect obviously but we all don't have an addiction to food.  I've never dreamed of food, drooled over food, I've never ate a whole box of cookies, fast food and then dinner later. EVER. 

I'd work out 4-5 days a week, eat VERY healthy and lose 10 lbs in 3 months....it was awful. The moment I stopped working out I'd gain it back plus 5 lbs.  That's my reality.  

Next time you judge us all and put us all in one category maybe look in the mirror and figure out your own deal.  

As for alcohol which is where this all started - I think if you have an addictive personality or depression you will be highly likely to become an alcoholic.  That being said it doesn't matter if you have had WLS or not - you can become an alcoholic either way. 
    

Judy M.
on 6/21/12 4:35 am
well, duh, one becomes alcoholic by drinking alcohol but not everyone that drinks alcohol becomes addicted to it and alcoholic.  The reason obese people are more likely to is because they have the body type prone to alcohol and food addiction.  Ask any addiction counselor psychiatrist that specializes in food addiction.  And yes, not every food addict is obese but obesity is most often caused by too much food.  Why else would one eat too much food and if one is not eating too much food why would one need RNY or any other kind of wls.
        
Judy M.
on 6/21/12 4:36 am
I am just curious now, if you did not over eat why make your stomach smaller?
        
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