Don't people read their surgeon's meal plan?
I guess my question is this... do you not wanting people to post questions then? This is similar to your other post about doctors guidelines or such.
If people posting questions here bothers you, why not just ignore them?
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but you and a few others seem to always respond back to posts saying "What does your doctors plan say?!" when clearly they have looked at their plan. Instead of reading the actual posters post about their nutrition plan, in regards to popcorn, you overlooked and it asked what their nut's plan says. She clearly put what her nuts plan says, you just conveniently decided to ignore it and post a rhetorical question.
I'm sorry, but it's a condescending attitude.
If people want to "shop" around for ideas, I don't think it should be discouraged. There is a huge disparity between the different nutritional plans and guidelines that each of our surgeons have provided. Without asking about the differences, we wouldn't know the differences!
My question is this... if your doctor says it's okay to have an apple 6 weeks post op, and her doctor says it's only ok after 8 weeks, who's right? I honestly think it's "do what you think is right" approach. I consider my doctor a professional, just as I am. As a computer security consultant, I'm paid to provide my opinion to a customer, just like a doctor is paid to provide medical advice. It's just that, advice. I don't expect my customer to implement all of my advice, and I don't think a person should be expected to follow all of their doctors advice. I make mistakes on the job, and so do surgeons. They shouldn't be treated as the end-all be-all authority either.
Edit - Here's a supreme example... I was having side pains and abdominal cramping last night, so I paged my surgeon. His answer... take ibuprofen, 400mg. A NSAID. Does that make my doctor a moron or an idiot? No... it's his medical advice and opinion. It goes against much of the info that is provided on this site. However, he does perform excellent surgery. Go figure.
If people posting questions here bothers you, why not just ignore them?
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but you and a few others seem to always respond back to posts saying "What does your doctors plan say?!" when clearly they have looked at their plan. Instead of reading the actual posters post about their nutrition plan, in regards to popcorn, you overlooked and it asked what their nut's plan says. She clearly put what her nuts plan says, you just conveniently decided to ignore it and post a rhetorical question.
I'm sorry, but it's a condescending attitude.
If people want to "shop" around for ideas, I don't think it should be discouraged. There is a huge disparity between the different nutritional plans and guidelines that each of our surgeons have provided. Without asking about the differences, we wouldn't know the differences!
My question is this... if your doctor says it's okay to have an apple 6 weeks post op, and her doctor says it's only ok after 8 weeks, who's right? I honestly think it's "do what you think is right" approach. I consider my doctor a professional, just as I am. As a computer security consultant, I'm paid to provide my opinion to a customer, just like a doctor is paid to provide medical advice. It's just that, advice. I don't expect my customer to implement all of my advice, and I don't think a person should be expected to follow all of their doctors advice. I make mistakes on the job, and so do surgeons. They shouldn't be treated as the end-all be-all authority either.
Edit - Here's a supreme example... I was having side pains and abdominal cramping last night, so I paged my surgeon. His answer... take ibuprofen, 400mg. A NSAID. Does that make my doctor a moron or an idiot? No... it's his medical advice and opinion. It goes against much of the info that is provided on this site. However, he does perform excellent surgery. Go figure.
I think you need to go back and re read the popcorn post. The poser DID NOT say she had talked to her surgeon or NUT in her original post. She made no mention to knowing her plan. AND Kelly answered her with a whole paragraph BEFORE she asked if the poster had asked her NUT. I have no bone in this, but get your facts straight before you call somone condescending.
I do want people to post questions. I don't mean to sound condescending and I don't want people to feel uncomfortable or afraid to ask questions because of the responses they might get.
In the post about popcorn, I did not ignore the posters question. First I told her that according to my plan, I was on a regular diet after six weeks, and could eat popcorn then. Then I went on to say that I was still supposed to be focusing on protein first, though, and that I didn't actually eat any popcorn until about three months out. Last, I asked her what her doctor's plan said.
And no, she did not say what her doctor's plan said about when to eat foods like popcorn. It sounds like you did not read very carefully. In response to my question, she said that she was supposed to be on soft foods right now (and I don't think popcorn is a soft food) but that her plan didn't mention foods like popcorn.
Asking "what does your plan say?" is not a rhetorical question. I had no idea what her plan said because her original post did not mention that she was supposed to be on soft foods or anything else about her plan. Since different doctors have different plans, I had no way of knowing what her plan said.
I agree that the doctor's advice is just that, advice. And I don't expect people to always follow their doctor's advice, although I generally think it's best to do so unless there is a specific reason for thinking that following your doctor's advice would be bad for you. For instance, my surgeon told me to take calcium carbonate but I thought that would be bad for me since we can't absorb it and it sometimes causes kidney stones. But my surgeon also told me not to eat raw veggies until I was six weeks post op, and while I didn't know if it would hurt me to eat them a week earlier than he said I should, I was pretty certain it would not hurt me to wait six weeks, so I waited.
In the post about popcorn, I did not ignore the posters question. First I told her that according to my plan, I was on a regular diet after six weeks, and could eat popcorn then. Then I went on to say that I was still supposed to be focusing on protein first, though, and that I didn't actually eat any popcorn until about three months out. Last, I asked her what her doctor's plan said.
And no, she did not say what her doctor's plan said about when to eat foods like popcorn. It sounds like you did not read very carefully. In response to my question, she said that she was supposed to be on soft foods right now (and I don't think popcorn is a soft food) but that her plan didn't mention foods like popcorn.
Asking "what does your plan say?" is not a rhetorical question. I had no idea what her plan said because her original post did not mention that she was supposed to be on soft foods or anything else about her plan. Since different doctors have different plans, I had no way of knowing what her plan said.
I agree that the doctor's advice is just that, advice. And I don't expect people to always follow their doctor's advice, although I generally think it's best to do so unless there is a specific reason for thinking that following your doctor's advice would be bad for you. For instance, my surgeon told me to take calcium carbonate but I thought that would be bad for me since we can't absorb it and it sometimes causes kidney stones. But my surgeon also told me not to eat raw veggies until I was six weeks post op, and while I didn't know if it would hurt me to eat them a week earlier than he said I should, I was pretty certain it would not hurt me to wait six weeks, so I waited.
Kelly
Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR. If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor. Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me. If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her. Check out my blog.
My surgeon gave me a diet to follow through week 6 then it says by now you should know your pouch. LOL Now at week 6 I am all on my own, so I am trying to figure out when i can eat a salad, but it is very frustrating to say the least. But I have done pretty good so far, just hope that i continue to do good after this week.
My surgeon gave a pamphlet with very little useful information in it. It had recommendations of things like grits, ensure, and sugarladen yogurts and premixed smoothies. I basically glanced at it and threw it in the trash. I came up with my own way of eating based on knowledge, further educating myself, and asking a few questions. I've lost 115 lbs since Oct and my surgeon is pleased with my progress. I have about 20 lbs to reach my surgeons goal and 50 for my personal. I don't eat what was suggested in the pamphlet because its way too high in sugar and carbs for me and is filled with foods I'm allergic to.
At least you realized right away that those were not good suggestions!
Kelly
Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR. If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor. Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me. If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her. Check out my blog.
My surgeon gave me 3 pieces of paper. One had a list of when I could move on to the different phases of my diet, one had a list of medications and one had a list of things I should and shouldn't eat the first week after surgery.
I saw him once two weeks after surgery where he encouraged me to move on to introducing solid foods into my diet and said he would see me back in three months.
So, all that being said, I learned a lot from the internet!
I saw him once two weeks after surgery where he encouraged me to move on to introducing solid foods into my diet and said he would see me back in three months.
So, all that being said, I learned a lot from the internet!
And now I am reminded of how little information some docs give patients.
Kelly
Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR. If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor. Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me. If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her. Check out my blog.
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