Really innocent question
Ok, PLease dont be angry at me for asking this question, but i really dont know the answer and i was hoping i could learn from you guys..Why all the protein? I know we have to drink protein shakes, and i know it fills you but why is it necessary for us to eat 60grams per day? Is it because we get full quicker? Is it also because thats what will keep us healthy, meaning no hair loss, no loss of muscle tone? Please explain.. Any input on post op 3 weeks out would be helpful. i am going to call my surgeons office tom and make an appointment with the nutritionist but for now anybody who has good advice please post as this would be very helpful. And yes, i do want to take advantage of my first 6 months out, and not really mess this up. I have come to far and gone through too much to mess it up!!
Have you had surgery already? Did they give you any information at all? Not trying to sound rude, just trying to see what information might be the most helpful.
Protein is the building block of muscle... virtually every organ of your body is a muscle, the amino acids in protein are essential for every cell in your body to function... without protein (meaning literally none, as with actual starvation, certain eating disorders, severe and extreme cases) your body would resort to digesting it's own muscle tissue. Your heart is the muscle that would likely be damaged first, which would be fatal (think heart attack, arrythmia, etc).
Hair loss, poor nutrition, and low muscle tone don't really even compare to what starvation (meaning, lack of amino acids/protein) would do.
With tiny tummies, realistically we could be malnourished, which is worse than it sounds. (Muscle digestion=slower metabolism= less weight loss, hair falling out, very hard to bring up low nutrient levels, more loose skin (from less muscle)... etc).
Protein is the building block of muscle... virtually every organ of your body is a muscle, the amino acids in protein are essential for every cell in your body to function... without protein (meaning literally none, as with actual starvation, certain eating disorders, severe and extreme cases) your body would resort to digesting it's own muscle tissue. Your heart is the muscle that would likely be damaged first, which would be fatal (think heart attack, arrythmia, etc).
Hair loss, poor nutrition, and low muscle tone don't really even compare to what starvation (meaning, lack of amino acids/protein) would do.
With tiny tummies, realistically we could be malnourished, which is worse than it sounds. (Muscle digestion=slower metabolism= less weight loss, hair falling out, very hard to bring up low nutrient levels, more loose skin (from less muscle)... etc).
Not rude at all. I am actually grateful that you commented. i know that it sounds really stupid but i didnt fully understand why all the protein. i knew from being on so many diets beforehand that eating more protein helps you keep muscle tone as your body loses wieght. Yes, i had the surgery on August 17th, and i understand all that you wrote. i just didnt get why all the extra protein and not the veggies and the fruits pureed as much because there are benefits to eating those as well. But thanks for touching on the subject, i know its too much to learn from one post.
Glad you got it in the way I intended. 
You're right, though, about protein helping you stay full longer. Once you're on solid food/meats, you'll see that dense protein (chicken, beef, etc) fills you up faster, and keeps you full longer than softer proteins (think cheese, beans, cottage cheese, even fish).
Protein in general will fill you much faster (with much less food) and keep you full longer than say a carb (not recommended by many surgeons during losing phase... or like mine, for life) or a soft food like pudding, fruit, veg, etc.
While fruits/vegs are healthy foods, a sleever's diet should follow in this order...
Protein FIRST, veggies SECOND, fruit (third, if room), carbs last (if at all).
At 10weeks out, I occasionally have a bite or two of veggies, haven't tried fruits, and don't eat any carbs (other than what's in my milk, etc). You can see the importance of the vitamins here, when our diets are relatively limited during the losing phase/while our tummies are still small.
Over time, we can eat more, and many veteran sleevers (years out) have a very 'normal diet' with plenty of veggies, fruits, and carbs. (Well, carbs are a gray area--- some do, some don't).
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Wow, I love how much info you provide. This site is truly amazing. i feel so grateful. Thanks for including the Protein First, Veggies second..etc. that is a great rule for me to go by. I will definitely take that with me.. You seem to know what you are doing, so please give me some ideas. What are you eating. I am still on Purees. i have been eating mashed sweet potato/regular potato, some soft fish mashed with my fork, avocado, hummus, of course my protein shakes, soups, yogurts, sf puddings.. How is this sounding?? And again, thanks so much for your replies..
My surgeon believes all carby foods (even potatoes) are sliders, can inhibit weight loss, and even cause gain later on. For that reason, they are no-nos in everything except the mushy stage (where he allowed potatoes). Most people keep their carbs under 30-40grams per day. Are you logging your food? you may want to, just to get an idea of where you are.
As for mushies, I ate greek yogurt (nothing fruit flavored, look for plain chobani or fage, something high in protein, low in carbs/sugars) and added a small amount of SF/FF pudding mix for flavor. I also made my own SF pudding by mixing protein powder in with the pudding mix, and adding the milk to that. Mashed potatoes (if you eat them) or soups (watch the sodium) can be boosted by adding dry milk powder for extra protein. I tried to remember that early on, every bite counts, and I wanted as much protein as I could get in those few bites.
I personally chose to get my protein from cheeses, fish, yogurt, protein drinks/pudding, cottage cheese, ricotta, scrambled eggs, tuna salad, etc and stayed away from carbs. That was my path.
If you haven't checked out the blog, eggface (a post-op RNY) has some great recipes for everything to protein ice cream, purees (mushies)-- LOVE the baked ricotta, it's like lasgna--, and food for later on (pizza, etc). http://theworldaccordingtoeggface.blogspot.com/
Hope that helps!
As for mushies, I ate greek yogurt (nothing fruit flavored, look for plain chobani or fage, something high in protein, low in carbs/sugars) and added a small amount of SF/FF pudding mix for flavor. I also made my own SF pudding by mixing protein powder in with the pudding mix, and adding the milk to that. Mashed potatoes (if you eat them) or soups (watch the sodium) can be boosted by adding dry milk powder for extra protein. I tried to remember that early on, every bite counts, and I wanted as much protein as I could get in those few bites.
I personally chose to get my protein from cheeses, fish, yogurt, protein drinks/pudding, cottage cheese, ricotta, scrambled eggs, tuna salad, etc and stayed away from carbs. That was my path.
If you haven't checked out the blog, eggface (a post-op RNY) has some great recipes for everything to protein ice cream, purees (mushies)-- LOVE the baked ricotta, it's like lasgna--, and food for later on (pizza, etc). http://theworldaccordingtoeggface.blogspot.com/
Hope that helps!
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Re fruits and veggies: the reason many programs say to hold off on fruits esp and most veggies in the losing stage is because they are sugar. Carbs-sugar.
Our bodies need simple sugar for energy. Our bodies are also lazy. If there is simple sugar (carbs from fruit) free floating in our blood streams, out bodies will use that FIRST for energy INSTEAD of breaking down our stored fat into simple sugar and using that for energy.
What that means to you is less fat burned and less weight loss. The more carbs (fruit,veggies,potatoes,rice,pasta,ww bread
Our bodies need simple sugar for energy. Our bodies are also lazy. If there is simple sugar (carbs from fruit) free floating in our blood streams, out bodies will use that FIRST for energy INSTEAD of breaking down our stored fat into simple sugar and using that for energy.
What that means to you is less fat burned and less weight loss. The more carbs (fruit,veggies,potatoes,rice,pasta,ww bread
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