Eating Out Game and Restaurant Strategies

Keith L.
on 1/28/13 10:56 pm, edited 1/29/13 12:38 am - Navarre, FL
VSG on 09/28/12

My family loves to eat out. I don't mean McDonalds and Taco Bell, unfortunately for my wallet my family likes good food. I can't remember the last time I didn't have a dinner tab that could feed a small 3rd world nation. But for people with WLS eating out can be a nightmare. I have learned to take it as a challenge and it has actually become something of a game for me. I like the challenge of looking at a menu and in a few minutes coming up with something I can order (that doesn't make the chef jump through hoops) and is not a special order.

So what are the strategies that you can use to go to practically any restaurant and find something to eat so that you can enjoy your evening out and not eat something that doesn't fit into your plan?

First we can't eat much so the first place I look is the appetizer menu. Occasionally you will find something that is not fried and breaded and doesn't include some sort of nacho chips that works on your plan. Things like shrimp ****tail, steamed clams/oysters/mussels, chicken wings (grilled would be best), or a meatball appetizer (don't go crazy here most include some sort of breadcrumbs so will be higher in carbs). A really great choice here is a seared tuna appetizer. It is usually the perfect amount of food.

Next up the salad menu. Look for salads that you can include some shrimp, fish, or meat with, that way you can get your protein in and some veggies too. Make sure to pick a dressing that fits in your plan (no French or Russian, look to blue cheese, oil and vinegar or vinaigrette) and always ask for the dressing on the side. You don't need a ton of dressing to get a ton of flavor and most restaurants over dress their salads.

The sandwich menu in most restaurants offer some sort of burger (beef or turkey), get it with all the fixings and when it arrives take it off the bun. Order it with the vegetables of the day (or broccoli if that is an option) instead of fries. Or a small side salad should be an option too. If you get a burger with lettuce, tomato, onion, and a pickle you probably do not need much of anything else as you will not be able (or should not be able) to finish that.

Entree menu. Most restaurants offer grilled or broiled fish, chicken, or steak. You should be able to find something from the entree menu. The problem with entree menus is that they are the most expensive and largest portions. If you opt for this menu, see if someone at your table would like to share.

So what about the restaurants that are more difficult like Asian restaurants that are more difficult to tell what is in the food. Well first you need to know a little bit about the cuisine to figure out what is in the food. In Asian restaurants obviously you want to avoid the white rice and/or any kind of noodle. If you feel like you have to have rice, get some brown rice. Most Asian restaurants these days offer that as an option and I have found it adds a new dimension to the flavor of Asian foods that makes the much better. So anything with a thick sauce in a Chinese restaurant will most likely have corn starch in it which is big time carbs, avoid thick sauce dishes. If you really want to do it right look for stir fries (ask them to use soy sauce instead of stir fry sauce as stirfry sauce is loaded with sugar or get the steamed chicken and broccoli. If you really feel like you have to have the sauce or gravy ask for it on the side so you can get the flavor with much fewer carbs and calories. Here are some of the things I like to order at Asian Restaurants:

Thai: Thai Beef Salad (Yum Nua), Fried Tofu Green Curry (only do this when you have carbs to spare, this is really good with brown rice), Tom Yum Soup, Chicken (or beef/shrimp) with Chili Paste (or basil or ginger paste). Curries usually have coconut milk in them so they will increase fat. 

Chinese: Chinese is a bit tougher because they use corn starch in most of their dishes. Most of the dishes you see on a typical US Chinese menu are what the Chinese people eat during special occasions, it is not their daily type of food. If you can get hot pot that is a great choice for our type of eating but you will need people to share it with as they are usually intended for two very hungry people. Egg Drop Soup is a good choice. Beef with Broccoli. Any kind of stir fry with soy sauce instead of stir fry sauce or hoisin (both have lots of sugar). Steamed Veggies are always a good Choice.

Japanese: Sashimi is the best choice here (best off with salmon, 3 pieces should do the trick). I also usually order some edamame. Clear soup and Miso Soup both fit into our plan nicely. If you have to have sushi or a roll ask for it to be made with brown rice. Many sushi joints offer that as an option now.

Vietnamese: Pho is your best bet. Its a very tasty soup loaded with meat. Ask for it without noodles. There are many other options with Vietnamese cuisine, just read through the menu. I love Pho so much that I have not had many other Vietnamese foods because I would be remiss to miss an opportunity to eat Pho (pronounced Fah btw). I love Vietnamese summer rolls but they are made of a bunch of rice paper and noodles, but are surprising low in carbs. If I eat them I eat a half of one.

Another restaurant that is tough to find something to eat in is Italian. Salads are great choices here, they usually offer some sort of meat to add to any salad. Meatball appetizer is a good choice. Steamed clams or mussels are typically on the menu. Just remember here most red sauces have sugar in them, especially if they are made in the restaurant which any decent Italian restaurant would make its own sauce. So be careful in what you eat.

Seafood restaurants are your friend. Just make sure to stay away from anything breaded or battered and you will be golden. On the health scale go for Salmon if that is an option. There are tons of articles about the healthiness of fish and Salmon is almost always on top. Sardines and Halibut are good choices too.

Mexican (or any Latin) restaurants are GREAT choices for us. Fajitas are great (beef, chicken, shrimp), Guacamole is really good for you (high in fat, but good fats so don't go overboard). Carne Asada, Pork Chunks, Palomilla Steak, Chicken, Shrimp are all available at these types of restaruants. Pico de Gallo, Salsa are all good things to throw on top. Refried beans (a bit high in fat but great fiber), Black Beans. Stay away from rice, chips, tortillas.

Don't be afraid to ask what is in something, if it is breaded or fried. It is important for you to know. It is also important for you to know what constitutes a carb. If you don't know all the things that are carbs, look it up or contact me directly I will give you a list of things to avoid.

For those of use that track our food religiously, My Fitness Pal has many of the major chains food items in their database. So you can see quickly what you are about to get and just be honest about how much of it you ate so you can stay on track. For restaurants who are not in the MFP database, look up similar recipes and use them for tracking. Just adjust your amount to get closer to the calories you think you consumed.

I have fun with it. Don't be afraid to taste other peoples food either (obviously not from other peoples table). If something tastes sweet then it is not for you. Make sure vegetables are part of your strategy they are good for you and you need the fiber. Also remember the #1 rule when your food arrives. Protein first. There are a number of rules such as a piece of meat about the size of the palm of your hand (not including your fingers) is about all you should eat (probably less, but certainly no more). When you order a steak, make sure it is rare or medium rare, you probably need the iron the red meat will provide you. Make sure to include raw veggies too like from a salad or a vegetable plate, you need the enzymes from the raw veggies.

Happy Dining!

VSG: 9/28/2012 - Dr. Sergio Verboonen  My Food/Recipe Blog - MyBigFatFoodie.com

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sleevegirl
on 1/28/13 11:02 pm - Austin, TX

We also eat out a good bit - and my family also eats good food LOL. Expensive little buggers.

I almost always share. Steak restaurant, I just have one of them get a bigger steak and I have my 2 oz and some of their broccoli. Mexican, I'll order a chicken fajita taco ala cart and make a salad with it and have a few bites of someone's beans. Or I'll share fajitas with someone or whatever.

I LOVE when they have seared ahi as an appetizer though. That's my fave. :) It can be done. Just gotta be creative, you are absolutely right :)

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Keith L.
on 1/28/13 11:06 pm - Navarre, FL
VSG on 09/28/12

I forgot to include Mexican and that is a great type of restuarant for us. I will edit tthe post. Lots of good things, refried beans (a bit high on fat but good fiber), fajitas, carne asada, guacamole, pico de gallo, salsa. Cuban food has some good choices too.

Yes that is a good point on the seared tuna app. I will include that too.

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MomofMarch
on 1/28/13 11:03 pm - GA

Good points!

Our last outing was horrible. I ordered a small steak, medium well. (I luckily don't have too many problems with it.) It came out bleeding an hour after I ordered it. I tried to cut through it and it was more fat than meat. The steak knives weren't touching it! I told our waitress and she offered to have the kitchen fix another one. At that point, I was so PO'd we had them take it off our bill, left, came home and had some ham. Such a disappointment!

I usually scope out menus online before going anywhere. That way I can get an idea of what sounds good, what I can have, and chart it.

Laura- HW:240  SW: 224  GW:165 Surgery date 12/10/12

Winning the battle against obesity and PCOS!

    

Keith L.
on 1/28/13 11:09 pm - Navarre, FL
VSG on 09/28/12

Previewing the menu is for amateurs. We are pro's we wing it, that makes it much more entertaining. I haven't left hungry yet. Actually previewing the menu is a great strategy so you can plan and look up typical recipes to see what you are going to get nutrition wise. For the major chain restaurants My Fitness Pal has many of the dishes already plugged in. You just have to figure out how much of the order you actually ate.

VSG: 9/28/2012 - Dr. Sergio Verboonen  My Food/Recipe Blog - MyBigFatFoodie.com

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MomofMarch
on 1/28/13 11:12 pm - GA

hahaha Well, my problem is that picking out any restaurant has been a hassle since surgery. NOTHING sounds good to me. I end up looking to see what will get me more bang (protein) for my buck. I should probably start a MFP account. lol I just do it on my phone.

Laura- HW:240  SW: 224  GW:165 Surgery date 12/10/12

Winning the battle against obesity and PCOS!

    

Keith L.
on 1/28/13 11:50 pm - Navarre, FL
VSG on 09/28/12

MFP is one of the single greatest apps I have on my phone. If you incorporate it into your day it will give you the best idea of where you are, what you need to fix, everything. Log you weight in the morning, log your exercise, then log every meal and every glass of water. You can customize your goals so you can see where you stand with your nutrition profile. You can look at your daily, weekly, monthly progress. It helped me to discover that I was not eating enough fat and it was causing at least some of my stalls. It is a must have for successful weight loss.

VSG: 9/28/2012 - Dr. Sergio Verboonen  My Food/Recipe Blog - MyBigFatFoodie.com

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Keith L.
on 1/29/13 12:04 am - Navarre, FL
VSG on 09/28/12

I just had a thought on your "Nothing sounds good to me" issue. This is a great opportunity for you to try things you thought you didn't like before. Since many of our tastes change post op, this might be a good time to expand your horizons on the culinary spectrum.

VSG: 9/28/2012 - Dr. Sergio Verboonen  My Food/Recipe Blog - MyBigFatFoodie.com

?My Fitness Pal Profile ?View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com

 

MomofMarch
on 1/29/13 12:29 am - GA

This is very true!

Laura- HW:240  SW: 224  GW:165 Surgery date 12/10/12

Winning the battle against obesity and PCOS!

    

mary d
on 1/28/13 11:18 pm

I went to a french restaurant last night.  They have a fixed price menu on Mon and Tues.  I checked out the menu ahead of time and had a pretty good idea what I would order.

I got poached salmon.  It came with rice and veggies.  I ordered a house salad to start.  It came with a garlicy mayo type dressing and was good and I used it on other parts of the meal too.  Sauces are my weakness, but I don't do real low fat so I have sauces that are not made with flour or sugar.

I ate the whole salad first.  This works for me because I can eat a normal amount of food and it doesn't prevent me from eating protein.  I ate most of the fish, about 4 oz and and picked at the rice and veggies.   I was stuffed.  Oh, and I had a teensy piece of french bread.

Since it was a birthday, 4 of us shared a piece of cheesecake.  I didn't think I could even eat any of it.  I said I would eat one bite.  But it was so good, I had to have two bites.

I am one of those folks who can have a little bit of a carb or dessert.  I don't do it on a daily basis, but I will have a little of these foods when I go out to dinner, which isn't more than a couple of times a month.

So basically, I scope out the restaurant first.  Usually have a salad and protein, skip appetizers and desserts and avoid Italian, chinese, mexican or any other type of restaurant that use lots of carbs in their main couses.

 

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