Vita check

This weekend, I started taking the following vits/minerals:
ALIVE liquid multivitamin (1 cap full)
Super B complex liquid **includes biotin, b12, b6, rivoflavin -b2, niacin-b2, thiamin-b1** (1 tbs)
Biotin 100 mg (2 pills)
Super E complex 400 iu **from d-alpha, beta, delta, & gamma** (1 soft gel)
FizzC Cal-meg (1 pkt) **includes 1000mg C, 500mg Calcium (citrate/ascorbate/malate/glycinate), 250mg Magnesium (citrate/ascorbate/malate/glycinate), 200iu D3**
Chromium Picolinate 1000mg (1 pill)
Iron (ferrous sulfate) 325mg (2pills)
B12 100mg (2 pills)

I would like to know what you are doing as far as your vitamin/mineral intake.

I didn't see this post before so I'll check my labels and get back to you. I am taking 2-500 mcg of B-12 a day though...that and Calcium Citrate in pill form..100% what the dosage is suppose to be. I take one adult multi vitamin and 500 (I believe) biotin and D-3 too. I'll post again later with the stats.

Although ferrous sulfate is not well absorbed, be sure iron you take is with vit C, an hour apart from dairy, caffeine, egg, whole grains or any other vites, minerals or meds.

B12 - 100 mcg? Nah, you mean 1000, right?

The E is in oil, so not absorbed, and we only absorb the d-alpha, no other forms.

I don't see vit D or A or zinc

Thanks VitaLady!!
I didnt know that about the ferrous sulfate (iron) - but thats what I need for my iron anemia.
I also didnt know that we only absorb d-alpha. Why not the other forms? I thought E (as an omega fatty) would be good & the complex would be better.

Im not currently taking an additional C - so the C, D & A are in the multi & the cal-mag.
Oh ya - you are correct about the B12. they are 1000mcg each - so im taking 2000mcg/ daily.
If thats too much pls let me know. I dont need to go & accidentally OD on vitamins for Lords sake.

You are in NO danger of OD. Much closer to deficiency.

Can't go too high in B12, generally speaking. b12 exits when it has no use.

No, only d-alpha tocopherol succinate. Of the 8 or 9 (there is a question about whether #9 is really vit E) choices.

You don't absorb fats/oils, so it has to be dry, as in powder within a capsule OR a chewable, if you prefer.

There is not enough A or zinc in your multi.

There's not enough vit D in there for an infant! Look at your multi and your cal........ how much D all together? You want about 25,000 IU per day, so I suspect you'll need to add all that in, as in the count will only be in the hundreds.

Iron yes, you need it. Need to take it with vit C, ok to take with fruit or veggie. An hour apart from: caffeine, dairy, egg, whole grains OR any other vites, minerals or meds.

But that FORM of iron is not well absorbed. But even a good iron won't be absorbed without vit C!

Believe me,, you are in NO danger of OD at all. Quite the opposite.

Ok VitaLady. EEEE (im so excited) this totally helps me!! 

Here are the goods:
Combined C = 1500mg
(RDA for Females 19 and older, 75 mg of Vitamin C per day)
Combined D = 600iu = 15mcg
(RDA for Infants, children and adults up to 50 years of age - 5 mcg or 200iu of Vitamin D per day)
Total A (from the multi) = 10,000iu = 6000mcg
(RDA for Females 14 and older, 700 micrograms of Vitamin A per day)  
E-delta (from the multi) = 200iu= 180mg
(RDA for Males & females 14 years and older, 15 milligrams of Vitamin E per day)
Zinc (from the multi) = 15mg
(RDA for Females 19 years and older - 8  milligrams of Zinc per day)
I realize that the RDA reqs. were set in the 50's are represent the BARE MINIMUM a human being needs to ingest to sustain life. But from the looks of it - it looks like im doing pretty good.

RDA reqs:
http://www.dietbites.com/Vitamins-Minerals-Facts/vitamins.ht ml
Converstions: http://dietarysupplementdatabase.usda.nih.gov/ingredient_cal culator/help.php#q10

Can you please clarify: "No, only d-alpha tocopherol succinate. Of the 8 or 9 (there is a question about whether #9 is really vit E) choices." ? 
Can you also explane why: "Iron yes, you need it. Need to take it with vit C, ok to take with fruit or veggie. An hour apart from: caffeine, dairy, egg, whole grains OR any other vites, minerals or meds.

OK, RDA is just a starting point.

You need to "NET" that much after malabsorption.

Your vit A, is it beta carotene (bzzzt, worth nothing to us) or retinol acetate or palmitate? Need about 25,000 of the retinol forms (dry, not in oil)

D, is it D2 or D3? If D2, bzzzt, worth nothing. D3, need to net about 25,000 AFTER malasborption.

I'm not sure what proof you want. I can't post 30 emails/studies here, but I can email several to you if you email me privately.

Do you want a lil something on each of the malabsorbed things? Or specific ones? Tell me. I just assembled an "on paper" pkg for someone that took me a full hour. So, be specific, or your email will explode. LOL

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"You need to "NET" that much after malabsorption."<< I understand

It's not that I'm looking for "proof" per say - but I would like to know where your getting your data from (not so i can dispute it but so i can improve/increase my own knowledge b/c I'm completely naive when it comes to nutrition). I like to take things from personal knowledge - not just here-say (as in OH I HEARD THAT ...). I want to be as aware as possible.

Even after almost 6 yrs i STILL don't get this malabsorbtion thing & haven't grasped how critical it really is & I want to change that.

I'm not above doing the grunt work/research, but if you could point me in the right direction, that would be great! The problem I'm having is that a lot of the data I'm finding on the web is here-say - & I need something more concrete than some Joe's personal opinion. Then i need to take that concrete data & tweak it to fit my own personal health needs.

 
Vitamin A: (33% [5,000 IU] as retinol palmitate and 67% & [10,000] as beta carotene) providing (typical analysis): beta carotene 5625mcg, gamma carotene 5.6mcg, trans beta carotene 5.4 mcg, beta zea carotene 1.1mcg

Vitamin D: D2 - 400iu (as ergocalciferol) and D3 - 200iu (as cholecalciferol)

It's be easier to fly up here and spend 2 weeks with me if you want a "data transfer" from my head, books, on line stuff, paper....... OMG

15 yrs.

I also have WLS journals (not magazines) back many years, but I did take a bunch of malabsorptiuon ones to my PCP. Oops. It was about 18" high of older journals.

Now I just give docs my condensed versions. Predigested, so to speak. If they question what I wrote and the ref, they can look it up if they want to pursue it.

So, you are getting 5k of vit A, if it's not in oil and 200 D3, if it's not in oil.

That's it.

So, about 1% of the D you need, about 20% of the A you need.

I know. You don't like it.

Got labs?

The ferrous sulfate thing is covered in the ASMBS June 2008 SOARD,l but I think Anrea and others just post it. Lemme see if I have it in email form.

See if you can suck it out of here:

Even though this study is relatively ne, please bear in mind that some of the info is terribly outdated in more detailed studies



http://www.asbs.org/Newsite07/resources/bgs_final.pdf



ASMBS Allied Health Nutritional Guidelines for the Surgical Weight Loss Patient

Thanks VitaLady - I will have to catch up on this tomorrow.