Question:
Does anyone that doesn't dump seem to lose slower
I unfortunately don't dump, although I still try to watch what I eat very carefully. I wondered if people that don't dump maybe don't lose as easily either. I have to work very hard to lose weight and watch my carbs and calories. I drink my water pretty good 50+ oz per day and get my protein in. I work out at least 5 days a week. If I had not had surgery, I feel I would be losing about the same as with at this point. I think I absorb my calories the same as a non surgical person. I don't know if this makes sense or not, but wondered if those that dump - have systems that work better. Just curious gail — Gail O. (posted on January 29, 2004)
January 28, 2004
Hi Gail, I don't know a medical answer to this question- only my own
experience- I DO NOT DUMP- (if I eat a bunch of something fried I get a
little queezy) but not dumping- I am 14 months post op...Started 327lbs
size 4X- I am now 158 pounds size 12/14- so I guess my answer would be no-
I am SURE if I eat all kinds of junk/sweets/carbs I would not have lost so
much- hope this helps you out a little.
Kim
— WABBIT F.
January 28, 2004
Hi Gail. I also do not dump and really feel like my loss is slow. I don't
eat sweets though, and really stick to protein rich foods--and not a whole
lot of them. I work out 3 times per week on a treadmill and with weights
twice a week. I can sympathize with your frustration! My biggest problems
are getting in water and protein supplements. When I do "up" the
water, my loss seems to get faster too, so maybe you should try that too?
I've read other people's profiles who say they're drinking 80 oz of water
and their weight really seems to come off. Keep me posted, I'd be very
interested to see if you try this (I really will too) and if it works. But
to say that if you didn't have surgery, your loss would be the same is
kicking yourself for no reason; would you really have lost over 100 pounds
without surgery? (I read your profile) I say, CONGRATULATE yourself for
your incredible progress...I can't wait to lose 100 pounds!
— susannahs
January 29, 2004
I don't think it makes a difference. I have never dumped and am down 92
lbs. in 5 months. Everybody is different and just because you do not see
the loss so much on your scale does not mean you are not losing. You say
you work out 5 days a week, you may be losing fat and replacing it with
muscle which weighs more. It sounds like you are doing great, keep it up.
— tazfan
January 29, 2004
I looked at your profile and you are less than a year post-op and have lost
over 100 pounds. You had some months where you lost double digit pounds.
And you say that if you had not had surgery, you feel you be losing about
the same as at this point???? I sincerely doubt that. Your BMI is already
down to 30. Why do you think that you seem to lose slower? I don't think
your loss has been slow at all. Whether you dump or not has nothing to do
with it-its how you work the program. If you eat high calorie junk food,
graze, and don't work out, then you will considerably slow the weight loss
or even gain. Sweetie, we all have to work hard eventually. This surgery
is just a tool that allows you to eat less and feel full faster with some
malabsorbtion for a period of time.. What you put in your mouth, how
often, whether you eat your protein, don't drink with meals, drink plenty
of water and exercise is all work on your end. Your doing very well-keep
up the good work!
— Cindy R.
January 29, 2004
I don't think it has to do with dumping. I think it has to do with carbs
and the fact you are working out 5 days a week with only 50oz of water a
day. On days you work out you should drink at least 80.
— mrsmyranow
January 29, 2004
I still think my weight loss would be the same without the surgery. I
think the only difference is feeling full fast. The first several months I
was eating less than 800 cal and exercise. I did optifast many years ago
and also lost the same weight in about the same time frame. I eat very
little junk food. But I will try to up my water intake. Thanks all
— Gail O.
January 29, 2004
I wonder about this also. About 4 years ago, I lost 90 pounds in about ten
months on my own. Drinking lots of water, watching what I was eating and
walking daily. For a little while I tried Meridia with it but didn't like
it. I also in that time period tried Xenical but gave it up when insurance
wouldn't cover it. I, of course, gained it back. I am not 7 months post
op and have lost about 80 pounds. Basically 9 pounds a month vs. 11 pounds
a month. BTW I am not a dumper. At least I don't think so. I haven't
stuffed myself with anything too sugary. I can only say that I do not dump
on say, 2 snack size candy bars. I am afraid to try anything with more
than 20 grams of sugar.
— lindadougherty
January 29, 2004
I don't think it makes a difference. I don't dump at all and marvel at the
fact that I am at goal in under a year, having lost 111 since my day of
surgery and 118 since my consult. I do though, kinda wish I did, as it
would give me more reminders and restrictions. I am lucky, but have to
make a conscious effort to stay on track. Good luck!!
— Fixnmyself
January 29, 2004
I don't dump on sugar and wondered if I would restrict my diet more if I
did. I'm lactose intolerant but I think that lactaid is the same as 2
percent milk. I have developed hypoglycemia so I don't think that I think
my system works better. Even without dumping, I know that I have lost a
mega amount that I would not have lost without it.
— susanje
January 29, 2004
Hi Gail,
If you are working out 5 days a week, you need to be drinking at minimum 86
oz of water per day on the days you work out. I don't dump and I had the
surgery around the same time as you with the same bmi. I think that their
are some people who just lose differently. Try to get in more water and
keep your carbs around 30-50 grams and your protein between 70-100 grams.
Keisha
3/12/03
316/191/160
— keishax
January 30, 2004
i think if a non dumper takes not dumping as permission to load up on sugar
products they will lose slower. If they stick to the plan and their surgery
is intact, they will lose at the rate that is right for their body. I am
amazed how when I compare to people who are sure they are slow losers that
they have usually lost more & faster than me and I am thrilled at my
results and rate of loss. I guess slow is in the eye of the beholder. I
just live every day gratefule for progress. and for what I have lost/
— **willow**
January 30, 2004
Gail - From your profile you've done really GREAT! - Also perhaps you don't
dump because you as you said you're getting your protein, drinking water
and exercising 5 times a week - wish I come near to being as good and
faithful as you. When you say you absorb your calories - I'm confused
-what type of surgery did you have? Did a medical person tell you that you
are absorbing because the entire point of the surgery is the "bypass.?
— Anna M.
January 30, 2004
Gail...Let me say first of all, Congratulations on the weight you have
lost. I am 19 mos post op, and until the past couple of months had not
dumped. I do not wish that on anyone, it is one of the worse experiences I
have ever had to endure. For the most part, I stick close to my pouch
rules, drink plenty of water, eat my protein and try to stay away from
carbs. I have lost 146 pounds. IN fact I lost 12 pounds from 12/23/03 to
01/13/04. My doctor's nurse was not happy with my weight loss in that time
frame. I had just started dumping on foods that I have never had a problem
with before. When I start to dump, I stay sick for the entire day/evening,
depending on the meal I dump with, and then I don't want anything else to
eat or drink, for being afraid of doing the dry heaves. So be glad that you
don't dump, it is not a pleasant experience and not a better way of losing
weight. I was a slow loser, but am glad that the weight that I have lost is
gone forever. It doesn't make a difference whether you dump or not, just
remember that the reason most of us who have under gone this risk of
surgery, we did it for our health.
— Deb S.
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