Question:
Which is better curing diabetes lapband or RNY?
— Toby2 (posted on May 4, 2008)
May 4, 2008
Although Type II Diabetes is improved by any significant weight loss,
there are some not-entirely understood neurochemical changes that occur
after the RNY, but not the LapBand, that seem to essentially cure many
people who suffer from Type II.
— SteveColarossi
May 4, 2008
I chose the DS because I Wanted a surgery that has the least chance of
long-term re-gain, is BEST at curing Diabetes (98%+),
removes much of the hunger hormone Ghrelin, NO DUMPING, NO MARGINAL ULCERS
and NO STOMA / STRICTURES, I chose the Duodenal Switch surgery.
Do investigate all the options. I wanted my system to still operate the
same which is why I chose to keep my pyloric valve intact with the DS.
DuodenalSwitch.com
With the DS: there is no stoma, so no stoma strictures; there are no
limitations (other than volume) against drinking before, during or after
meals; 80% of ingested fat is malabsorbed, allowing liberal use of eggs,
butter, mayonaisse, healthy oils, marbled meats, cheese, etc., in the diet;
98.9% of type II diabetics are CURED of this devastating disease, with data
showing stable cure over 10 years out; there is the best average weight
loss and most durable (average 76% excess weight loss going out 10 years)
of all of the bariatric surgeries. That's why I had a DS!
Good luck to you!!!
— SameButDifferent
May 4, 2008
I had Lap Band 4-16-08 and within two days I was off over 50% of my
insulin. The RNY removes it faster but you have a more invasive surgery.
— dyates2948
May 4, 2008
I had the lap-band 4-02-08. I was going thru 200 units of insulin in a 3
day period with the pump.... I am not a little over a month post op and
I'm lucky if I use 50 in a 3 day period. I agree with Diane on how the
lapband is less invasive.
-Danielle-
— Danielle T.
May 4, 2008
In my experiences I would have to say RNY would. You lose weight quicker
and tend to keep it off if you follow directionsa and do what your supposed
to do.
— Joanc
May 4, 2008
As I understand it, rny is better at helping the diabetic, but both
surgeries can be affective, I just think rny is more affective. When you
lose weight, it helps your diabetes, but when you sever the stomach and
re-wire the intestines, something about the mal absorption supports the
sugar issues that diabetics have. I don't think they know why it helps,
but I have seen it work for several people. What surgery cannot do is undo
damage already done by diabetes, so if you have damage already, it won't
reverse, but you can get relief with wls surgery if you are ready for a
life change. If you don't change after surgery, you will make yourself
worse in the end. If you get surgery, take it very seriously. Take care.
Patricia P.
— Patricia P
May 5, 2008
RNY is the answer you are looking for but keep in mind that RNY causes low
blood sugar also. I have to eat some foods that slowly turn into sugar to
keep my blood sugar up.
— nascar_angel_3_2003
May 5, 2008
Ditto as with Toni above. Also you must consider YOURSELF. If you are a
sweets eater, you can still do so easily with the Lap band; you can still
drink sodas, milkshakes, etc... cake and wash it through with milk - you
get the picture. Only YOU know yourself and how you are. I wanted a
surgery that would kick my a55 if I mess up. :0D Good LUck!
— MAG
May 5, 2008
Lap band has been proven to "reverse", place into remission
diabetes. There is no cure for diabetes.
Donna, RN
— Donna O.
May 5, 2008
In the news recently it was found that RNY is the cure for diabetes and
doctors are pushing to use RNY on non-morbidly obese diabetics to improve
their health. It has been found in both lab rats and in human beings that
diabetes is totally reverses when the duodenum is "by-passed" (so
this would be true with also the DS surgery) An experiment showed that when
the duodenum was then put back in place, diabetes returned. Three is the
proof docotrs needed to begin using gastric bypass RNY on diabetics...It
won't be long now til this surgery is approved by insurance companies
everywhere soley to treat diabetics too! Here are the transcripts of the
show and the facts From 60 Minutes.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/17/60minutes/main4023 451.shtml
— .Anita R.
May 5, 2008
Here's the short answer ---> *****R - N - Y*****
— [Deactivated Member]
May 5, 2008
I saw a very interesting topic on 60 Minutes a cpl of wks ago. They had 8
ppl on that had bypass, all 8 had diabetis, 6 had sleep apnea. After the
bypass, all 8 were off their diabetic meds withing 4-7 days of surgery. And
the sleep apnea patients were better after losing weight (of course). But
what they were saying about the diabetis is that when the do the bypass
surgery it by passes the duodenal switch and that's what is stopping the
diabetis. The dr that conducted the study is also studying to see if this
would be an option for diabetics without a weight problem. I'm sure if you
looked back at the 60min. program arcives a cpl of wks ago, you could find
it. Good luck and God bless.
— Kristi H.
May 5, 2008
RNY-RNY-RNY. Reason, any weight loss can help, but I had Diabities Type II
for 25 years, and took a total of 19 drugs each day plus insulin. Less
than 1 week following surgery, I had low blood sugar, sdo I dropped the
insulin, then a few days later, low blood sugar so I started droping pills.
less than a week later, no dibitic medication, and non since. My A1C 3
months later was 5.6. My blood pressure is 105/55 and my total colestroal
is 95. The reason is the disconection of the stomach and the first third
of the samll intestine. THis has been proven year ago to cure stomach
canser patients that had diabities Type II. Today, it is a fact. RNY
removes and reconects that first third to the last third of your small
intestine so it only carries stomach acid, not food. That part of the
small intestine is the part that process fat and Sugar as well a carbs.
You can return to small amounts of complex carbs, but sugar and fat, other
than olive oil or other simular oils will make you Dump. Dumping is
swetting like low blood sugar, the shakes, rapid heart beat, and often
cramps in the gut. It will also give you diareia. Thus, you don't eat
them because your body can not process them. You can taste the wedding
cake, but not the cornor peice with the rose icing and icing on two sides!
If you want the 60 Minutes story, I will send it to you on DVD if you can
tell me if you have a recorder, or I can run a Video tape for you. Please,
no one else ask, I can not make it for everyone, and she asked and was told
about the show, so I am offering just to you. Drop me a line as a direct
reply. I am glad to help you with a tough decision. Best of success to
you.
Bill
— William (Bill) wmil
May 6, 2008
I had type two and took shots twice a day then I had RNY and I am free and
clear of anything it took about just a month, my levels were down and I
haven't had a problem yet and on top of all that I lost 80 lbs. since
nov.07
— campnwego
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