Question:
a recently posted question reminded me of 1 ive been meaning to ask
a question posted on jan 19th about halitosis reminded me that ive been meaning to ask something similar. i have halitosis, bad. nobody has ever said anything to me about it, and maybe its in my head, but i doubt it. i have great oral hygiene, flossing, brushing, and chewing SF gum are daily things, (or more) but i still suffer from bad breath. sometimes, when i exhale a certain way i can actually taste my bad breath. any toothpaste/mouthwash recommendations? i use crest toothpaste (most fond of anything crest, dont like many other brands) this just started within the last six months, and i cant figure it out. when i brush more than 2x a day i also seem to get blister-like sores in my mouth. i dont have dental insurance, and cant afford to go to one, so that is not an option either. i had lap rny 4/26/6 and have lost 133# and still losing (just more slowly now :P ) memeber since 2004 check out my profile for any other info! please send advice! im getting desperate! — squeekypete (posted on January 23, 2009)
January 23, 2009
You might try a tongue scraper. That is what a dentist told my husband.
Good luck!
— joycedev
January 23, 2009
Agreed, try a tongue scraper but be gentle. As for the blisters in your
mouth; I would consult my doctor. Find out what is going on first before
you do anything. If your body is experiencing ketosis which is normal with
a major weight loss; this will pass. If it doesn't pass; like I said
consult with the doctor as it might be something else. Good luck and God
Bless,
vinnigirl, retired RN
— vinnigirl
January 23, 2009
ok i googled ketosis, but it didnt help any. can you explain what exactly
that is?
— squeekypete
January 23, 2009
The workup of bad breath involves a careful examination of the mouth and
nasal passages. If this is negative, chest and sinus x-rays and upper GI
series with barium swallow should be done. If the studies are still
unrewarding, then endoscopy of the respiratory and upper GI tract would be
indicated. Appropriate liver and renal function tests will be ordered when
uremia or hepatic coma is suspected. If pyorrhea is suspected, refer the
patient to a dentist.
Copyright
— trible
January 23, 2009
Ketosis (pronounced /kiːˈtoʊsɪs/) is a
state characterised by elevated levels of ketone bodies in the blood,
occurring when the liver converts fat into fatty acids and ketone bodies
(which can be used by all of the body for energy as an alternative to
glucose). These ketone bodies are a by-product of the lipid metabolic
pathway after the fat is converted to energy.[1][2][3][4][5] Ketoacidosis,
by contrast, is the accumulation of excessive keto acids in the blood
stream (specifically acetoacetate and beta-hydroxy butyrate). Whereas
ketoacidosis is universally considered to be a medical condition, there is
a minority of specialists who believe that that is not the case with
ketosis. ( I got this off of Wikipedia) I hope it helps
— trinity P.
January 23, 2009
Who said anything about ketosis. She said "halitosis."
— Erin T.
January 23, 2009
Trinity is probably correct about what she posted. You may be suffering
from ketosis. I was just diagnosed with ketosis, and one of the side
effects is the very bad breath. Basically what you need to do is get more
protein in you, but somehow you have to balance it out with carbs. I am
still trying to figure it out, although my doc told me to up my protein,
but did not tell me anything about the carb side of it. Ketosis can be
very common in people with the types of diets we are not becoming
accustomed to. Many body builders suffer from it too from what I have read
about it. I have noticed that my breath has gotten better in the last week
from my docs recommendations, so that may be something you want to call and
discuss with your nurse or doc, Im sure you can over the phone, and they
can give you some recommendations on how to work more protein, etc. into
your diet. I did all mine over the phone, so I am sure your nurse would be
happy to discuss it with you with some ideas or suggestions for you. Hope
this helps some. :)
— bicngillette
January 23, 2009
Here is a site that will help you fully understand what ketosis is. I got
the most information out of this site when I looked it up after talking to
my nurse. Just copy and paste this link:
http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Ketosis_Symptoms
Hope that helps out some too. :)
— bicngillette
January 23, 2009
Some people on this site have recommended Dr. Katz Thera Breath - I believe
you can get it online - I haven't tried it yet, but they say it really
helps.
— Wendy M.
January 24, 2009
Here's an awesome site and can explain the many reasons for bad breath
along with both medical and folk remedies...
http://www.health911.com/remedies/rem_badbr.htm
— .Anita R.
January 24, 2009
Oh and...I forgot to say...You are so adorable! You did really well! And
your baby is such a cute patootie! Love the nickname Buckshot! Too cute!
— .Anita R.
January 24, 2009
Have you tried rinsing with peridex? I know it kills germs and it is
powerful stuff. If that fixes the breath problem, you probably have oral
infection issues.
— Bill_Nagle52
January 24, 2009
I have always had problems with canker sores and painful bumps on my
tongue. It seems, like in your case, the more I brush the worse it gets.
My dental hygienist told me to continue to brush more, but avoid using a
tartar control formula paste. It has really helped me. You may want to
try that, Crest has one. Good luck, dear. Deb
— Debbi S.
January 24, 2009
i agree. i think it could be ketosis, too. i deal with mine with tic tacs.
but, if this was something u had prior to WLS, i suggest u go see a
dentist. if u have no insurance and can't afford it, i suggest contacting
your local dental school. they usually have free or low cost clinics for
their dental students to get actual real life experience working on real
patients. good luck!
— andrea E.
January 26, 2009
I've heard that ketosis can cause halitosis also. One natural remedy is to
eat a little parsley after a meal or take parsley supplements. Many times
halitosis is from stomach acid causing the problem and since most of us WLS
patients have smaller stomach pouches it could be a common issue. Good
luck!
— Bigwyfan1964
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