Question:
NO MEDICAL INSURANCE, HOW MUCH MONEY WILL FOBI POUCH COST?

HELLO EVERYONE, MY NAME IS WALTER AND IM AM CONSIDERING THIS PROCEEDER. THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT I DON'T HAVE MEDICAL INSURANCE. MY BROTHER HAS OFFERED TO HELP ME BY GETTING A LOAN FROM HIS BANK. "DOES ANYONE KNOW, RUFFLY, HOW MUCH IT WILL COST?    — walter R. (posted on April 28, 2004)


April 28, 2004
I think it runs approximately $20,000 on average
   — Teresa Green

April 28, 2004
Hi Walter, There are quite a few of us who are self-pay patients. And amongst those of us who are, there's quite a few of us who have gone out of country to have our surgery. For me the fact that I needed a highly experienced surgeon (I was a horrible surgical risk), and also needed something affordable pointed me toward Spain. I had my surgery with Dr. Aniceto Baltasar in Alcoy, Spain 21.5 months ago. I live in Oregon - and with travel, lodging, surgery, labs, x-rays - everything all together, it was $15,800.00. If you'd like to know more about Dr. Baltasar, you can check out www.bodybybaltasar.com If you're interested in knowing about more of the out of country options, there's a Yahoo group for just that sort of thing - the link to join is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OSSG-OutofCountryWLS Please let me know if I can answer any questions or help, okay? Blessings, dina PS, sounds like that brother of yours is a pretty cool guy!
   — Dina McBride

April 28, 2004
I was also a self pay paetient that went out of the country for surgery. I went to Dr Aguirre in Ensenada Mexico. I paid $6900.00 in August for my surgery. As I understand it, his price has increased a little since then...but is still very affordable. I am now 8 months post op and have lost 118 pounds. I have had no problems, and would go back to Mexico again, and am considering going back for plastic surgery in the near future. Check out my profile for more info on Dr Aguirre. Good luck on your journey!!!!!
   — jennap

April 28, 2004
Its ALWAYS better if you can try to exhaust all your options of getting some kind of medical insurance to cover the surgery before going it alone as a self pay. I'm not saying you shouldn't self pay if it comes down to it because a LOT of us have to in order to have the surgeries. Still, if a complication were to occur it could bankrupt you, literally. I've heard that there are some RNY surgeons who offer a capped expense package. You pay them one fee and the hospital costs are included and it limits your risk in case of any surgical complications that might arise during surgery. Still, if you're a ways out and suddenly end up with complications and are hospitalized separate from the original surgery you're looking at major expenses. Its just financially risky to go without insurance. If you're forced to do so though, you might want to try and find a surgeon with a cap in place. Check the archives on here because I know a long while back some people listed their surgeons as doing that. Also there is a doctor in Brazil who has a 2 week window in case of having to stay in the hospital longer than expected. Most from the US go to him for the DS, however he also does the RNY when appropriate. I'm unsure of the the RNY fee but total to go to Brazil for the DS is between 10,000 - 11,000 (incl. airfare, hotel, hospital, doctor, nurses, etc). Hopefully someone who has self paid in the US recently will chime in with some numbers for you. Just for an idea, about 5 years ago they wanted $25K in my area to do a proximal RNY.
   — Shelly S.

April 28, 2004
You might try finding a job that has health insurance, companies like home depot cover WLS. Self pay is fine if you have no alternative but if you have complications it could bankrupt you. Thats something to think about if you have assets.
   — bob-haller

April 28, 2004
I'm another patient of Dr. Aguirre. I just went down to Ensenada in March and had a fabulous experience. His rate now is $8500. I stayed at a resort for 9 days during that time, so with hotel, travel and surgical costs I paid $10,500 out of pocket. I could have gotten by with a lot less had I really wanted to though. Here is Dr. Aguirre's message board where you can go to ask questions if interested: http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/forums/messageboard.php?ID=A-1045621205
   — Dinka Doo

April 29, 2004
Hi, I'm with the other poster I'd suggest you find a job that does have ins. and covers WLS. I just had my surgery 3/26/04, which ins said normally would cost about $25000. Well I had some problems come up, had to have a second emergency surgery for a hernia repair & obstructed bowel, was in ICU for 2 days and total time in the hospital was 8 days. The reason I'm giving so much detail is that I got a copy of hospital charges from the hospital and the grand total was.... $78,000. Ouch!!! all I can say is thank God for ins. Try seeing if you can get some cause who knows what your actual bill may be. Good luck. :o)
   — vllgmz4

April 29, 2004
Walter, many of us had Dr. Ruberto Rumbaut in Monterrey Mexico with THE BEST TREATMENT, FACILITIES, ACCOMODATIONS, AND RESULTS a patient could hope for. I know others who went the Dr. Aguirre route, also with great results are posting to you, but he only does the proximal RNY in an open procedure. Dr. Rumbaut does the Fobi Lap for a total cost of $13,000 - a steal by stateside comparison, where it can run as high as $50,000 from what I've read.
   — pam C.

April 29, 2004
I too am self pay. I am having OPEN RNY on May 17th. My total costs are going to be right at $22,000. God bless your brother for helping you!
   — Valerie03

April 29, 2004
If you are self-pay you really need more research than the ones who had insurance. I know that most surgeons fees are separate from hospitals so that may help you in negotiating. I do have insurance, and for LAP RNY it was 43,000 for 2 days in the hospital, not to mention the other 7,000 in tests before I was able to have the surgery. Spend your money wisely. If there is anyway possible try to obtain insurance, because if there are any complications, event they tiniest ones it is expensive. Also, I have been reading lately that insurance companies are reluctant to write insurance policies on Gastric Bypass patients after the surgery, even if they have reached a healthy weight. I know its RIDICULOUS and UNFAIR, but true. The frightening part is that my father of 59 just recently got insurance from a new co. that he is working for and he has had 3 cardiac bypass surgeries. I guess the insurance cos' think it is OK as long as you don't get tooooo FAT!!! Good Luck!!
   — Tara J.




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