Question:
I'm 16 months out and 110lb down. I'm concern about not being approved...

For plastic surgery. Is there anyway or anything I can do to probably cheat my way in to an approval, Just in case I might get a no from insurance.    — Marie V. (posted on March 5, 2005)


March 5, 2005
That would be insurance fraud and you are posting this on a public forum. I understand your being anxious about not being approved, but if the loose skin is causing you problems and you are being treated for those problems then there shouldn't be a problem. Your surgeon should be able to appeal any denial as long as you have proof of your medical conditions such as a rash under the folds of skin or back problems, things of that nature. I wish you the very best and hope you get your approval.
   — issymudd

March 5, 2005
Cheat your way to approval??? That is one reason why it is so hard for many to get approval. There are many people out there who try to make rashes etc. Just be honest and if you don't have rashes and other skin problems you should consider yourself lucky! If the sugery is medically necessary than you will more than likely be approved , and if you aren't approved for plastic surgery just be happy that you were approved for your weight loss surgery and with the success you have had with your weight loss. Just think there are alot of people out there who would love to have weight loss surgery and their insurance won't cover it. You should be thankful for what you have accomplished so far.
   — FreidaL

March 5, 2005
For Shame!
   — MissKimberly

March 6, 2005
Coming from someone who has to fight a yeast infection in my bellybutton on a daily basis, has open sores on my hanging stomach, and gets rubbed abrasions on both my stomach and legs where they touch whenever I walk a lot. I am FURIOUS and appauld that you would consider faking a rash. First off, that is total insurance fraud...second because of the mass of people finagling there information to get PS some insurance companies have starting putting in exclusions for abdomniplasty and panniculectomies (mine being one of them). So before you go looking for a way to fake a rash, thank GOD that you are not actually suffering like some of us. And if you are suffering from the excess skin in some other way, use those legitmate reasons to try and get approval, and don't LIE!!!
   — Sarahlicious

March 6, 2005
This website is for support of the morbidly obese. It's not a website to discuss how to break the law and commit insurance fraud. Shame on you for asking for help with something that is illegal.
   — Shayna T.

March 6, 2005
HI I'D LIKE TO ASK IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY SUFFERING ANY MEDICAL ISSUES DO TO YOUR EXCESS SKIN OR IF IT INTERFERES WITH YOUR EVERYDAY LIFE, DO YOU ACTUALLY SUFFER FROM BACK ACHES, RASHES ECT. DOES YOU EXCESS SKIN HAVE AN ODOR OR MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO KEEP CLEAN... HAVING A RASH IS NOT THE ONLY MEANS TO QUALIFY FOR MEDICAL NECESSITY FOR RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGERY... SO FIRST CALM DOWN. SOMETIMES WE THINK WE DON'T MEET MEDICAL NECESSITY WHEN IN FACT WE REALLY DO. THERE IS NO NEED TO BE CREATIVE HERE... I TRIED TO EMAIL YOU PRIVATELY, BUT AM UNABLE TO PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY...
   — tracy W.

March 6, 2005
first off, cheating is not just unethical, it is illegal, insurance fraud is a felony and you could have your thin butt in jail for a long, long time. Not really worth it huh? now, for the real way to do this. I was approved with out any rashes, based simply on how far my pannus hung down. The insurance company had to see photos taken by my PS, not by me, and sent by directly him. They said they would not accept pictures etc, directly from me. Probably had too many issues of *fraud* in the past. Now, mind you, they would pay only the amount for a panniculectomy. I worked hundreds of extra hours at my job to help play for the difference out of pocket to have a LBL and Muscles tightened and brachioplasty, and I fully paying out of pocket for my thigh and breast lift and augmentation. I will work as many hours as it takes to pay it off, my husband is going to be selling his old Mustang, and our tax refund is mine. I am also borrowing from my retirement account. and THAT is how you get plastic surgery. Use what, if anything, you legally can get from insurance. Sacrifice and work for the rest. It may take time, but what is worth having is worth working for.
   — **willow**

March 7, 2005
I'm sorry to everyone who seem to get ofended by my posting this question. I guess I should've put more details to make my point a little more clear. Even before my RNY I had rashes under the folds of my skin, under my breast and between my thigns. They keep comming out and got worst as the weight would come down. I Have severe back pains. I'm 16 years old and many times I find my grandma asking me to sit in her chair to ease the pain. I spoke to my PCP and he game me a referal to see a plastic surgeon next week. The problem is AND THE WAY MY QUESTION SHOULD'VE BEEN IS: I HAVE HAD VERY BAB RASHES, UNDER MY BREAST, UNDER THE FOLD FROM MY STOMACH AND BETWEEN MY THIGS. NOW THAT MY APPOIMENT IS IN TWO WEEKS I DON'T HAVE THE RASH, HAVENT GOT THEM SIMCE AUTOM AND IM SCARE THAT I WOULD GO TO THIS APPOIMENT NOT GET APPROVE AND THEN AT THE FIRST SIGH OF WARM WEATHER HAVING THE RASHES AGAIN. But again I appologies. And thank you! I didn't know this would be breaking the law.
   — Marie V.

March 7, 2005
If you documented the rashes, etc. all along with photos, doctor's visits, receipts for medications (anti-fungals, etc) used to treat the problems, then it would not matter if at a particular point, the rashes had abated....JR
   — John Rushton




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