Hope123. Think she must have blocked me, could someone copy this for her?

Citizen Kim
on 4/26/14 6:25 am - Castle Rock, CO

You are right, Kate - there is nothing wrong with blocking people, but those who post a ****ty reply to someone and THEN block are particularly cowardly. 

It's an old trick - it's how we've learned to circumvent it!  OH can moderate it if they like, (if it's against TOS) I'm sure the board nanny has already pushed the report button 

Proud Feminist, Atheist, LGBT friend, and Democratic Socialist

Cunning_Pam
on 4/26/14 6:36 am
RNY on 12/18/13

Kim, if you're referring to me by "board nanny", no. I have not reported anything here. There's nothing to report, IMO. Kate has stated her position calmly and rationally. I have stated mine the same way. Why does simple disagreement always have to be framed as forum nannying? If one person has the right to express their opinion, then so do others!

Surgery: RNY on 12/18/2013 with Jay M. Snow, MD            "Don't mistake my kindness for weakness." - Robert Herjavec, quoting Al Capone

      

Citizen Kim
on 4/26/14 6:39 am, edited 4/26/14 6:47 am - Castle Rock, CO

I was neither talking to you nor about you ...  You really don't feature in my world that much, Pam but clearly I do in yours  hence this reply (because I'm polite like that)!

I do believe everyone is deserved of posting their opinions ...  it's the people constantly trying to stop that, even when it's within TOS, that seem to want to shut down public discussion - I'm all for posting stuff in public and not only doing so in PM's (again, not talking about you!) like the forum nanny PM circle.

This was the whole problem with the old R&R for some people, wasn't it - they would rather have this stuff under ground than out in the open where people have to stand by what they say?

 

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Cunning_Pam
on 4/26/14 6:55 am
RNY on 12/18/13

Despite your jabs, I appreciate your clarification and explanation.

Surgery: RNY on 12/18/2013 with Jay M. Snow, MD            "Don't mistake my kindness for weakness." - Robert Herjavec, quoting Al Capone

      

Grim_Traveller
on 4/26/14 9:39 pm
RNY on 08/21/12
On April 26, 2014 at 12:46 PM Pacific Time, Cunning_Pam wrote:

So if someone said that they didn't want to speak with you in real life, would you barge into their house, walk into their living room and start telling them what you think? That's analogous to what you're doing here by circumventing her block.

Yes, it sucks when you (generic you) can't get the last word in with someone. But the right to express ones self doesn't include the right to chase people down and ignore their desire not to hear you. I once sent you a PM whi*****luded a question, Kate, which you ignored. I didn't then post on the open boards "Hey, someone tell Kate that I asked her a question and I want her response!" I respected your implicit refusal to speak with me (if that's indeed what happened; it's quite possible you just didn't get my PM.)

Sorry Pam, but how is this like barging into someone's house? That's just a horrible analogy. It's an internet forum, and Kate had a rational statement she wanted to make. Why make a big deal of it? You've been around long enough to see what the pattern is for the other poster in question.

I've only ever blocked two people, and then only briefly. I've never deleted a post. If people don't want to interact honestly and completely with others, they usually don't last very long. You've had your share of run-ins with some people, but you've never pulled any of that crap. I'd hope you wouldn't feel the need to defend those that do.

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Cunning_Pam
on 4/26/14 11:50 pm
RNY on 12/18/13

Grim, we just plain disagree on the appropriateness of my analogy then. I do agree that Hope123 was cowardly by throwing out those posts and then blocking like she did, I'm not defending that. But once someone has put up a block, I don't believe in chasing them down and effectively forcing them to hear something. And quite honestly, she's not worth it from what I've seen. She won't care what's said to her anyway, so it's wasted effort. It just comes across as having to have the last word, which is a sentiment I'll cop to, sure. But never around a block. For what it's worth, if the point were that I had something to say in my defense to someone who had blocked me I would have started my own thread and stated the facts just like Kate did but without the call to PM, so that the people who did count could see my side of the story.

And you're right, I've never done any of that, even when I was blocked by an entire group of people that I basically had never said a word to. Except for a couple of people who I've never interacted with at all and just didn't care to hear from, those were the only folks I've ever blocked either, and only after they had blocked me. I agree with the concept of owning what you say. But once someone disengages, I believe in respecting that as well, no matter how ignorant, distasteful or just plain wrong someone has been prior to that.

The only thing I wish people would take away from this is that disagreement does NOT equal attack, condemnation, or anything else. It's just disagreement! And disagreeing can be done civilly and without rancor, as you've done here. Thanks for that.

I really don't want to resurrect this topic here any more than this (and have only done so because it was you asking TBH.) Kate and I have discussed it (via the dreaded PM! OMG!) and as far as I'm concerned we understand and are cool with each other, and the topic can die now. If you want to discuss it further feel free to PM me as well, but I'm not going to keep the fires stoked on this particular thread.

Surgery: RNY on 12/18/2013 with Jay M. Snow, MD            "Don't mistake my kindness for weakness." - Robert Herjavec, quoting Al Capone

      

Citizen Kim
on 4/26/14 8:18 am - Castle Rock, CO

She's now deleted all of her posts and blocked me (what a tragedy )   Good thing I was able to quote her so she's not been able to rewrite history - everyone can still see what a gem she is.

Post deleting among certain groups seems to be de rigeur these days, doesn't it?   Perhaps if you are not willing to stand by your ignorance, you really shouldn't post it for all to see!!!! 

Proud Feminist, Atheist, LGBT friend, and Democratic Socialist

scoobyluvr1
on 4/26/14 8:36 am
RNY on 10/21/13

    

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