Question:
Lap-Band Versus Gastric Bypass

It has been a tough decision making process for me. It has been nearly a month and still cannot decide what procedure is best for me. My BMI is 40. Which one keeps the weight off the best? Why do more people (approximately 80%) of the patients prefer the more drastic gastric bypass as opposed to Lap-Band? Does anybody know of somebody who has had the Lap-Band for several years that I can talk too? John [email protected]    — jwyork (posted on October 31, 2005)


October 31, 2005
It is a matter of personal preference, cost and success rate. And the only way to decide is to do your research, study them all and try to pick one you feel you can live with the rest of your life. Knowledge is your friend at this point.
   — shoutjoy

October 31, 2005
Hey John. My DH and I both have had LapBand and are very happy with it! Everybody's different; there are as many reasons to choose the Band as there are Band patients. I have a list of MY reasons on my profile .. you are more than welcome to check it out. Also check out the Band message board on this site, if you haven't already. There are many success stories there, and lots of people who can help you. http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/LapBand/posts.html Feel free to email me if you like, and good luck!
   — Jeanie

October 31, 2005
I started out looking at the band, but was rejected by the band docs,and refered to the ds doctor, cant have a band or the rny, it is incompatible with my previous surgery for gerd,no can do, only the ds, and now that i know about that, i would not consider the band or rny if i could, come to the ds forum and ask the question there.
   — walter A.

October 31, 2005
Hey I just wanted to reply to your lap band question. I have a friend who had the lap band done I guess its been about seven years ago, she did really well with the weight for the first year and then for some reason she gained a lot of it back. Now, I don't know if it was because she ate things she was not suppose to eat, or if she just gave up on the procedure all together. She had to have the procedure done again about three years ago. However, when she had it done the second time it was just a waste of her time. She had still not done well with loosing the weight. I had another friend who also had the lap band done. She did wonderfully, and has kept the weight off for at least two years. I think that people chose the more intense surgery because it may seem like it works better. I hope that which ever you chose to do, it works best for you. Please email me back any time you would like to talk. Melissa Smith [email protected]
   — kizie23

October 31, 2005
You should know how both work and know what is the difference between them, The Lap Band is a restrictive procedure, It does not allow you o eat much, (about 50ml at a time is about usual) and the By Pass is not only restrictive but does not allow you to absorb much fat. and there in lies the secret of success. With the first op, one loses a lot of weight in the first few months (if you exercize it is likely to be a longer more steady weight loss) If you do not walk or take regular exercize you lose say about 20 to 30 lbs and then your body reacts and thinks it is being starved and winds down your metabolism and your weight loss stops because you are burning your food fuel more slowly. The By pass procedure makes it difficult to absorb fat but you still need to exercize in your weight loss phase but once you have reached goal it is easy to maintain and you can eat fairly well. The band on the other hand makes it difficult to eat certain types of food (meat fish chicken and other meat products, also bread) But then you can drink milkshakes and eat icecream easily. You will put on weight. The difference in this case is that with by pass if you drink a milkshake or eat ice cream or other fattier foods, it is dificult to absorb the fat out of these foods and it gives you diahrroea. So it is harder to regain your lost weight after By Pass and easier to regain lost weight after banding as it does not restrict fat returning to your body like by pass does. Those who have done well on this procedure are usually motivated to exercise and watch that thy don't eat too much fat. You will need to take supplements of vitamins and minerals for the rest of you life and see your Dr regularly. A small price to pay for looking and feel great. I have had both band and BPD (similar to by pass) and wish I had not had banding as by pass was a lot easier to live with. Good luck and go for it. feel free to write to me if you wish.
   — Lise K.

October 31, 2005
Hello, I am a four year post-op Gastric bypass RNY patient. I was 375 lbs. the day of surgery. I know weigh 160 and I have maintained that with little effort since my second year out. I keep active and stay away from sugar completely. Now this is just my opinion but people I know that have had the banding compaired to Bypass are not as successful on a long term basis. With a lap band they only restrict the amount of food you can take in. That is your only tool. As for the Gastric Bypass it not only makes your tummy tiny so it accepts little amounts but they also take out the first section of your intestine called the duodenum all except a few inches of it. This is where a person absorbs fat and callories so not only does the bypass restrict your food intake it also makes it so you dont absorb all the fat and calories from food either. Also in most not all but most patients this part of the procedure also makes people intolerant to foods with refined sugar and high fat content so if you eat those things it will make you sick or in our language DUMP. It is your little monitoring device to make you be good. I still need that sometimes and I am glad it is there to remind me. All in all it helps in maintaining weight loss for a longer time. Instead of just having one tool like the banding in having a smaller pouch bypass gives you three tools really the pouch, not absorbing fat and calories, and making you intolerant to things that will make you gaing weight like fat and sugars. Hope I helped. Good luck in your decision making. God Bless Jo Michalko
   — Jo_Michalko

October 31, 2005
I myself made a list of the two; pros and cons. Lap Band has an easier recovery but you have the port which is used for filling which is always present (concern was what if something happened to the port in my body and wasn't I just trading one diet tool (diet pills) for another (doctor assisted-filling/removal of saline) and would I constantly need filling/removal instead of just limiting food and increasing exercise). I settled on Open RNY, yes it required a more intense recovery/eating regiment. The things that I watched before; fat and sugar were much easier along with portion control. I still am carful not to lift too much or strain. Aside from the healing scar and making better food choices I sometimes forget that I had the surgery. I am starting to live like our counterpart skinny people LOL. I didn't want to constantly think about why am I not losing weight maybe I need to go to the doctor and have him fill the port. For me it is much easier too make good food choices and exercise.
   — 1968 Loser

October 31, 2005
Hi John I am chosing gastric bypass because I have a problem with carbs. If I decrease carbs (Atkins diet), then I lose alot of weight, but gain it back plus some more once I start back to eating carbs, even small portions. Carbs are digested in the stomach and by bypassing the stomach, I will be able to maintain my weight loss. I lost 42lbs in 2003 and have gained back 30 of them since. Hoping to be approved soon.. Teru
   — NurseTC

October 31, 2005
I had the band and I am so far very happy. It's true that for the first 6 mnths or so, certain foods WILL NOT go down ie, some meats, bread, rice, etc. Your body will decide which ones it can tolerate and which ones it won't. Pork, bread, and rice were my big NO-NOs at first. At the end of my first 6 months all of the sudden I could eat anything...just in way smaller portions. Prior to banding I would eat a footlong sub with a bag of chips and a large drink in one sitting. I didn't even attempt to eat a sub for months after my surgery until one day I just really wanted one. I got a 6 inch sub took it home and ate 1/3 of it and was very full and I didn't throw up or have any bad side effects. It took me 3 meals (not snacks) to eat that sub. I had the usual mayo, meat, extra cheese, on white that I really love but this is an example of why I chose the band. In the long run I still wanted to eat normal foods, just not abnormal amounts of it. A piece of cake NOT THE WHOLE DARN CAKE, 1/2 cup of rice NOT A WHOLE PLATE FULL, etc. Do Banders loose slower, yes, if loosing slow and steady is not what you are looking for then you will not be happy with the band. I sometimes am very impatient and wish I could of lost my first 100 lbs in 6 months but on the other hand I couldn't deal with looking sick, hair falling out, possibility of dumping, taking vitamins and getting blood work done religiously-those were MY issues. I watch my mom have RNY and the she aged 10 years during her first year after RNY. 2 1/2 years later she looks fine and the weight loss is great so it did work out for her, but watching what she went thru scared the crap out of me. Incidently she thinks the band is scarier then her RNY. LOL.
   — Baby Blues

November 1, 2005
At a BMI of 48 I chose to be banded for some very basic reasons. Number ONE concern ~~ Complication risks, either from surgery or months or even years down the road. I didn't have comorbids so I was NOT willing to trade my current quality of life (though FAT) for something that may affect me for the remainder of my lifetime. Research and list what is possible, know the risks and compare it with your level of acceptance. Number 2, NORMALCY ~~ As a Bandster, I live and eat normal foods, only in much smaller portions. I enjoy a wide variety of healthy choices, sprinkled with a little bit of treats now and then. I did NOT want to live a life ruled my WLS. At six weeks, I was back to the foods I love and cook for my family. I choose to avoid sugar carbs and lower my fat intake on my own. Which leads to my next decision. Number 3 ~~ CHIOCES, I want to learn a lifestyle that is not riddled with side effects for eating wrong. What things happen to a Bandster for not sticking to the rules are painful and gross, but by far less trouble than a good case of dumping. I can be out to dinner with my RNY friend, and have an episode, spit it in my knapkin without so much as a indication of any trouble. HER on the other hand, will turn ashen, start sweating, and feel dizzy and nausious, as well as have stomach cramps. A case of dumping for her, ends our evening out...it's NO fun!!! I want to learn to embrace that I can make good choices about the food that I eat. I have and will continue to learn healthy eating along the way. I didn't fall victim to the illusion of a "Magic WLS". In order to succeed, I have to put forth my effort in the battle. I happen to enjoy my new life and making good choices overall. Number 4 ~~ Malabsorbtion, since when is NOT being able to absorb your nutrients a good thing? I can't seem to bring myself to believe that I want to suffer the consequences of robbing my body of the valuable nutrients it needs, to forego the calories. So I don't loose as fast, but I am two months out and over 30 pounds down from surgery, with out a single day of being sick or vomiting, no "other end" issues either. Sure, I would love to have the weight off in 6 months or so, BUT, at what price does my body pay for that to happen? Furthermore, a lifetime of supplements and deficiency issues don't seem all that glamourous to me. I would rather be able to eat and absorb them normally, and work on creating a better lifestyle in the process. Number 5 ~~ Appearances, Now this may or may not be something of importance for some...I choose to tell of my journey, while others want to hide it. You can't hide RNY...nope, nadda. The loss is too fast for people to believe it is because of diet alone. If I had chose to be private about my surgical choice, I could have...excuse it as gall bladder surgery or some such thing. I eat like normal people do, just small portions. To all that don't know any better, I am just good at watching my intake. Number 6 ~~ Commitment, this is a touchy subject for many. I made the proactive choice to get mental help for my food addictions and find ways to deal with emotional issues without eating them down. Banding requires more effort to make and adhere to these changes overall. I will get where I want to be if I choose to be in control of my life. A huge portion of my success hinges on my commitment to my WLS choice. If I hadn't been so willing to switch gears and stop the destructive food habits, I would still be sitting here spinning my wheels. Do your research, visit the various surgery specific boards and read profiles of people that have been there and done it. ALSO, don't forget to visit the Memorial page. Find out about those that passed before us trying to achieve the dream of being thinner and healthier. The answer is in you...just do the best you can to become knowledgeable about ALL the angles about each surgical choice...then weigh them against your own mind and what you are willing to accept for the outcome.
   — windylindy

November 1, 2005

   — [Deactivated Member]

November 1, 2005
After years of research, I chose the LapBand. Why? Because it is the safest, least invasive WLS method. I have no dietary restrictions. This is a tool that is helping me to change my habits for life-long success. I did not want to change my internal organs, just add a level of restriction to help me change habits. It is working beautifully. I eat healthly, smaller meals - three times a day. If I choose to have a snack, I will do that too, as long as it falls within my daily program. I had no desire to lose weight fast and have my skin hanging down around my knees. For me, slow consistent weight loss will give my body and skin the opportunity to adjust. I don't have to worry about a weight loss window in the first 18 months - the band is adjustable for life. Feel free to check out my profile. http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/members/profile.php?N=B1119748452 Good luck, Chelle
   — Chelle B.

November 1, 2005
It depends upon your needs. I never have been a big eater, so i chose RNY, which prevents you from absorbing much from what you eat. From my research, RNY has a better success rate and a better long-term maintenance rate. It also depends on how much overweight you are. 40 is not so high. Research your options and talk to your doctor.
   — Novashannon

November 1, 2005
Hi John, If you would really like information from a 2 1/2 year bandster, that would be me! LOL I am doing just fine, lost more than 154 pounds to date and I am still losing weight although much more slowly. I love my band, I have not had any problems and I can eat most everything I want in smaller quantities. Please feel free to email me privately. Babs in TX 334/180 -154
   — babsintx

November 1, 2005
I agree with the bandsters. I had it done because I researched this sense 2000. I am willing to take the slower weight loss than the death rate of rny. I also want to ad that in two to three years we are at the same weight loss as rny. We also have more time for toning as we lose. Leaving it more likely to not have sagging skin or other surgerys. I had surgery 10/26 and so far very happy. Just look long and hard into this. Your heart will show you the way. Good Luck
   — Bandygirl

November 1, 2005
When I read your post, I vowed that I would not respond, especially when I saw that banders and RNY-ers alike were encouraging to make the choice that was best for you and were explaining their own personal reasons for the bariatric surgery they chose. But, then the misinformation began and you deserve to have full and complete information to make an informed decision that is best for you. First, recent news account of a Journal of the AMA study did not segregate gatric bypass from lap band risks-- in fact, the study chronicled all weight loss surgeries into a single category and looked at the overall rate of complications. Therefore, to suggest that recent studies show RNY to be more dangerous than Lap Band is just plain wrong. Secondly, there does seem to be some considerable confusion about the method of malabsorption following gastric bypass. Nutrients, calories and carbohydrates are absorbed in your intestine-- they are broken down mechanically by chewing and chemically by saliva and gastric juices. Because the RNY restricts your stomach size, not only do you consume less but the upper part of your stomach from which the pouch is crafted has relatively little gastric juice. Therefore, some types of foods are not broken down enough to be adequately absorbed. Also, some of the small intestine is re-routed so that no digestion takes place in it (because no digestive juices enter it)-- therefore there is some malabsorption from that change. However, it is not a draconian procedure and the bulk of the weight loss is due to making good food choices. Certainly, the limit on your pouch is lifetime-- but, if you like many of us, you suffered from your obesity for a very long time--- many of your eating behaviours may, in fact, be deeply ingrained since childhood. Therefore, if you are in this category of people with lifetime eating issues, why do you think that a temporary solution will be for you. The level of attentiveness to be successful at either program is comparable-- whether vigilently monitoring what you eat to avoid feeling ill or vigilently monitoring what you eat because it won't make you feel ill and you still want to control those foods that once controlled you, you need to commit to eternal vigilence. Lastly, both surgeries are permanent. The Lap Band is not designed to be removed. Certainly, you can decide to have infrequent fills and minimize the effectiveness of your lap band, but the band is not removed. Clearly, patients need to address for themselves how they will feel about the minor inconvenience of being injected with novacaine and then having their band insulfated several times a year and how they will pay for those office procedures. In much the same way that patients need to intelligently balance the risk of requiring post-operative complications with either procedure (which is about 4.6% for Lap Band and about 5% for gastric bypass). So, you gather accurate information about the risks and benefits of surgical weight loss, find a surgeon with whom you feel comfortable and who has significant experience with your chosen surgical weight loss method and then make a promise to yourself to stay on course throughout your weight loss and then weight maintenance. Tough choice? Sure. But, regardless of what you do, you'll be affecting your life and improving your health.
   — SteveColarossi

November 1, 2005
In my opinion, if you have a CHOICE of procedures, choose the band. I had the RNY 7-9-04 and I have lost over 180 lbs. but unlike many others I have not been able to STOP losing weight. With the band, they are able to go back in and adjust it, larger or smaller. In my case, I had an irreversable procedure that may take my life in the end.Of course, if I had to do it over again I sopose I would, because my longevity wasn't much of a chance if I didn't have it done either. But I sure wish that I had the band, where they could go in and say, open it up or something..... Best wishes either way you choose. Velvet
   — Fairysister

November 2, 2005
John, Good Luck at what ever you choose. I had the Band and have lost 41lbs since July 18th. I like the Idea of being able to adjust the band. My husbands cousin had the band 2 years ago and has hit her goal wt. The sad news is she has developed breast cancer and just had her band unfilled so she can eat more. due to the nausea from her treatments she felt it best to be able to get more food into her. She can always start fills after she is feeling better. Check with your doctor about fills if your thinking the band is what you want. My fills or unfills are free for life as long as they are done in the office and not done in the radioloigy dept. I have had 2 fills since my surgery the first was 2cc's 6 weeks after surgery. My second fill was this past monday and it was .2cc's. they take about 10-15 min in the office and it's only a little uncomfortable when they numb it. I have started losing again and feel good about the fact that I can eat pretty much what ever I want only less. My Mom will have the RNY on the 7th of November. She had by-pass surgery in the late 70's and now her staples are leaking and she will go in for a repair and the only way they can fix it is by doing the RNY. she is sick all the time due to the leaking so I guess I'm glad the RNY is out there for people to choose also. cynthia
   — gurdy




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