Question:
DOES THE RAVENOUSE FEELING TO EAT GO AWAY AFTER SURGERY?

I have my surgery scheduled for 2/25. I am getting very nervous that I won't be able to do this. I am a mother of 4, work full time and do everything around the house. I have never put myself first. I am affraid because of the life I live that I am going to fall back into bad habbits. Does the ravenous hunger feeling go away after you have surgery. For example if you haven't eaten all day do you still get a feeling to gorge yourself? Also I have talked to various people and some wait ten minutes between bites others just continue to eat and don't wait long between bites. I don't want to stretch my stomach back out.    — JenP (posted on February 15, 2008)


February 15, 2008
It's normal to be nervouse about what will happen AFTER the surgery...as well as during. I think anyone who has tried and failed at so many diets as most of "us" have would have reason to doubt the results. I can only speak for myself and I'm only 4 1/2 weeks out. I've lost 22 lbs. since surgery. I still do get hungry and still do get cravings. And if you're out somewhere and you haven't had something to fill you up then you may want to gorge yourself. However, it's more or less impossible to do this, especially at first because your stomach is so small. So after a few bites you will stop...if you don't stop you will throw up because large amounts of food will make you sick. For me, I don't get the ravenous feeling. Sometimes I can go all day without eating much and to be honest I'm not very hungry. When I do get hungry I try to satiate myself with something healthy...and then there goes the hunger. I used to drink wine every night with my husband. I haven't done so for 5 weeks and to be honest I don't even miss it. I tried a couple sips last night and I was full from dinner and I said, I don't even want this. I'm a mom of 2 and I was only out of commission for a few days. If you can have your kids help with the cooking and cleaning for a few days and if you can get time off from work then you should be okay. You said you've never done anything for yourself, and while you have so much to gain personally from losing your weight, so do your children. So look at it as something you're doing for everyone. WLS is not the magic cure...but for me I never would have been able to stick to another program of weight loss. You still have to have discipline but it's so much easier. Good luck to u. Chris
   — cjjordan

February 15, 2008
I have surgery on 2/20 and I have been unusually hungry as the day approaches! I have been assured that after surgery one has no hunger except head hunger and that goes on for some time. You are doing something for yourself by having the surgery. By doing for your family and not for yourself you have likely neglected your health--until now! They are going to have to pitch in and help you out which will be good for them as well as you. I suggest you make a chart of chores for your four kids, depending on their ages, and let them know this is how it is! I should tell you I have no children of my own, so this is easy for me to say. Take care of yourself!
   — [Deactivated Member]

February 15, 2008
You may need some help with the kids and housework for the first few weeks, so I'd try to find help if possible in that area. You need to put yourself near the "front of the line" post op, as you'll be dealing with a new life style. Initially, you probably won't be hungry at all. As your learn to eat more solid foods, you'll probably fill up quickly. "Head hunger" is a term used for thinking about food, although you've already eaten. If you try to gorge yourself post op, you'll throw up, possibly get dumping syndrome, and most likely end up with the worst HEAVY stomach ache you've ever had. Eating habits vary with individuals. Eat small bites and chew your food well is the best advice I can give you. Some post ops do take a long time for a meal, as that works well for them for their proper protein intake. FYI, if you eat too fast, you'll probably throw up. And throwing up is difficult post op, as you don't have the normal stomach acids to help you regurgatate, so you'll probably only end up with the "foamies", where foam comes out, not the food. If you eat too much, you may be in great discomfort for a couple of hours. Follow your doctors protocol. Get help with the kids and cleaning for 2-3 weeks--you can guage how long by how your feel. Speak with your family, and tell them about what to expect. Hopefully, another family member (husband, boyfriend, older child) has gone with you when you speak to your surgeon, so they too know what will be happening. Find out where local support groups are, as they may be invaluable to you in the suffessful weight loss journey. I know support groups are an important part of my weight loss maintenance. Good luck. DAVE
   — Dave Chambers

February 15, 2008
I haven't had the surgery yet, but I know from having been on Atkins for 2 years that once your blood sugar is completely under control (like after wls/rny), the constant cycle of feeling "starved" shortly after just eating DOES go away. You still have 'head hunger'...but it isn't as bad as that ravenous feeling you are describing. But your comment about not eating all day does worry me. You HAVE to eat regular meals after wls to be able to take in enough nutrition. You could get really sick if you aren't eating all day. Why not try the post-op eating program starting now, to get used to it? I plan to start about a month before my surgery date...at least the part about 1. taking small bites and chewing everything really smooth, and 2. starting with protein and getting at least 70gms of protein a day, and 3. not drinking for half an hour before until an hour after a meal...but sipping water almost constantly during the rest of the time. I figure if I can get into those habits early, it will help afterward when I'm recovering. Plus, it'll help me lose weight which will make the surgery safer. I can relate to your lifestyle because I'm a single fulltime-working mom... which is why I've put so much planning into this. I want to succeed...to be able to use my new tool effectively...so I have to modify my daily routine in small steps so that I (and my family) can adjust to the changes. You are thinking of all of this now, and working through it, which can only help you succeed. Good luck!
   — abeeba

February 15, 2008
First....you CAN do this! I didn't have hunger pangs for at least a year. I never felt hungry. Then little by little I started to get a little rumble if I waited too long to eat. I felt like I SHOULD be hungry, but I didn't and was really glad! The hunger pangs will eventually come back if you start eating unwise choices for foods...such as sugar or starches and (Bad carbs) If you don't follow the basic rules from your surgeon you will have trouble...so follow them and you'll do fine...Don't worry about it all being about you! Let it be and take care of yourself. Enjoy the journey...It's quite remarkable! And when it stops...You have to take control and eat right and you'll be just fine! Let you pouch teach your brain...Listen to it...The brain is too sneaky and will try to pull you back to old habits...Don't! It's that simple. Especially when it is soooo easy to lose without the hunger. Good luck!
   — .Anita R.

February 15, 2008
You will do fine!!!! It took me about a year to feel hungry. I used to have to force myself to eat. The surgery will be a breeze. Do not worry. I am a mother of three and had a 2 year old at the time, worked full time and had to move us to another state by myself when I had my surgery. YOU CAN DO IT!!! Good luck to you!!!
   — Carlyn M.

February 15, 2008
Hi, Jennifer! I don't know what type of WLS you are going to have. I can only tell you about my experience with VSG. I am 3.5 months out and no longer have any ravenous hunger. Hunger is all but eliminated for me. Halleluja! Which ever type surgery you are having I am sure all will be well. We are rooting for you. Pat
   — pjennjr

February 15, 2008
It is normal to be concerned. I am three years out and have maintained weight pretty good. I have 15 pounds to lose due to having a baby. I was a mother of 2 under 2 yrs old with my husband and family all gone. I had some friends to help me. It is nothing to worry about. if you do not eat all day that is not good for you but you will feel full after a cup max. I am three yrs out though so that cup will not be there for quite sometime. You do not have to wait ten minutes between bites do not drink while you eat. Y0u eat normal just slower
   — tl_morgan

February 15, 2008
Hi Jennifer, thanks for writing. You have a lot of concerns, and you have every right to have them. May I be honest with you? It sounds to me like you are trying to fit weight loss surgery into your busy life, not change your life with weight loss surgery. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. This is a huge adult decision that is life changing. You don't have to put yourself "first" or be selfish, but you will destroy any progress you have by insisting on not changing. Wls is life changing. You cannot gorge and not stretch your pouch. You cannot go through the day and not eat, you can't stay the same and get the body you want. Having said that, let me say this. I was fearful, just like you. The ravenouse feeling during the first two years for me did go away, but I also eat regularly. I am 4 years out now, and I can eat much more so I have to be careful and it is a challenge. As each year passes you get new challenges, but for me I have kept off my weight for 3 years now and personally have no regrets on my surgery. You need to consider all aspects of having surgery before you have it. It is only 10 days away, and it sounds to me like you still have too many unanswered questions. You don't have surgery and the next day go back to your busy life as if nothing happened. You will fight head hunger, you will fight when to stop eating, and sometimes to eat at all. Your family life needs support during this time. I have 3 children, and for the first year I needed both my children's and my husbands support. Does that mean they did everything for me? No they did not. But I would cook, and then they cleaned up. I made time to walk 2.5 miles in the neighborhood twice a day, so they had to help with some chores around the house. You might have to walk during your lunch hour, and you may have to choose in what ways your life can change. But change is guaranteed with surgery, so be careful in your decision. You get to control what changes you make, but you will have to make changes. If you continue to lead the life you are as you state, you will absolutely return to bad habit and if you lose your weight, you will regain it, and if you don't lose it, it will crush you. Be afraid, be very afraid, but let that fear fuel you to make the right decision and make some changes in your life. You can make positive, wonderful, active changes that will work well for you and your family. Change is tough, but it doesn't have to be bad. If you have surgery, follow the rules, exercise, diet, water. Get your family on board. No matter the age of the child, they can help. Your job is another issue, but even in your job, you can make good choices. I wish you well, and hope you do well with your surgery. Patricia P.
   — Patricia P

February 16, 2008
Jennifer: I had the vertical sleeve gastrectomy on 12/18/07. Most of my stomach was removed with no changes done to my intestines. You did not mention what type surgery you are having, but all of the wt loss surgeries require removal of some of the stomach tissue. The reason I said that is to explain this: There is a hormone, recently discovered, called Grehlin. It is secreted by the stomach tissue. It is the hormone which starts the "hunger cycle" and is primarily responsible for initating those hunger pangs. With a portion of stomach tissue removed, you will have less Grehlin secreted, since it actually is secreted from the stomach tissue. Before my surgery on 12/18/07, I would characterize my hunger as "a large, hungry lion's ROOOOAAAAAARRRRR!" Now, post-surgery, my hunger is like a cat's "meow." Sometimes I don't even get the "meow." I just feel like my stomach is "empty" and I will look at the clock and know that it is time to eat. It is so nice now to be able to eat to live and not live to eat. Best wishes to you, Jennifer, on this marvelous journey which is akin to rebirth. Janet, RN
   — JStangel

February 16, 2008
Going all day without eating and then eating a huge dinner is how we got obese in the first place, so that cannot happen anymore, especially after surgery. You will have to eat throughout the day and take heed of your body's signals regarding how much and when to eat. You are not doing anyone a favor by skipping yourself and doing for everyone else instead. Your children will be much better off if they learn from example that their mother takes good care of herself AND them, and does not deprive herself of sitting down with them to eat something at mealtimes. I have not had surgery yet, but everyone tells me that the hunger pangs go away and the head hunger, thinking about missed foods to binge on, can continue. Best of luck for a safe and successful surgery and enjoy the weight loss! You deserve it!
   — [Deactivated Member]

February 16, 2008
Your questions are all normal. We all had ones like these. Can I really do this? All you can do is your best effort. You get to decide how this is going to work for you. The best description I heard about eating throughout the day was when someone asked me if I would take off on a road trip without putting gas in my car. I was stunned...that's what I was doing everyday when I skipped eating, thinking that would help me lose or keep the weight off. You have taken the courageous first step. Take your family with you. Lead by example on eating something in the morning. Your kids will do better throughout the day if they are eating breakfast. Use K2O waters at work for protein and take or keep quick protein items with you all the time so you can eat, even on the run. Good luck and take care of you as well as everyone else. See this as a start of good things to come for all of you. Each of us does it differently. Find your way. Julie
   — JulieJD

February 16, 2008
Your profile did not say what surgery you were looking at. I know that with the RNY hunger seems to be a thing of the past. Not that you do not see something and what it. I still fix too much steak when I cook for the family for myself, even though I have never eaten more than 3 oz at a time, I cook more and just can't eat it. My eye's are bigger than my pouch which I know is about the size of my thumb. I was very nurvious before surgery and they had to give me a shot to relax they day of surgery, but I have never regreted it and just wished that I had it done years before. Best of Sucess and congrads for taking the step for yourself, and providing for your family with a longer life from your efforts!
   — William (Bill) wmil

February 19, 2008
I went through different stages. During prep, I went from wanting to pig out to following the liquid diet. After surgery (RNY), I was pretty much afraid to eat for fear of pain and throwing up. At about 2 weeks out, the head hunger hit really hard. During that time I did some chewing and spitting of food because I missed the taste and texture of 'real foods'. When I was able to add additional foods, it got better. I'm now 9 weeks out and notice I have cycles of head hunger, but never any 'real' hunger. My suggestions... get support (group or therapist) and stay out of the kitchen as much as possible. When you get cravings, acknowledge them and remind yourself that it isn't time to eat. Follow your meal plan - provided by your surgeon/nutritionist. I just had a stricture corrected, so I'm back to liquids for a week. I was hoping to be eating meats by now... guess that will have to wait a while longer. Best wishes! Kris
   — gonnadoit




Click Here to Return
×