Question:
my brothers sister said to me the other day, wls, oh i talked to my

aunt who is a nurse and she calls it voluntary anorexia. i told her that was absurd. i thought and thought about it all night in bed.. is that what this is really? i never looked at it like that before.    — joyce B. (posted on May 27, 2000)


May 27, 2000
HARDLY! The pouch only limits our eating that severely during the first year or two. After that, it is the length of your bypass that will determine your long term success. If we could lose wt on "sensible" eating, we would. However, even that puts wt on us. It is necessary to cut our caloric intake well below normal to achieve loss. That's why supplementing is so critical. Supplements give us what we need without the calories/fats/sugars etc. I'm nearly 6 yrs post-op and never been healthier. Anorexia is a mental illness. Morbid obesity is a phsycial illness which requires a physical fix.
   — vitalady

May 27, 2000
Joyce: Your aunt is just misinformed.. First she and others must know what obesity is.. it's not a chosen circumstance, it is well documented and proven to be a genetic disorder which is often only controllable through surgical intervention. Because of our genetic makeup, our body constantly craves food and/or converts more of the food you eat into fat, making it almost impossible for you to lose weight permanently. I agree with Michelle that anorexia is a mental disorder and every bit as crippling as obesity, however, no where in the same ballpark, to call obesity surgery a controlled anorexia is ludicrous and insulting. We are the way we are by the roll of the dice and this surgery is a gift I cherish every day now.. It gave me the tool I needed to be in control of my destiny. I eat three very nourishing meals a day and I am very healthy now, trust me I'm a whole lot healthier now than I was before surgery. I could go on and on the benefits of Gastric Bypass Surgery, however, this must be your decision not your aunts.. Good luck in what ever your decision is. <p> Visit my profile page for more information, links and recipes
   — Victoria B.

May 27, 2000
Hi Joyce, I was horrified to read what your aunt said to you. First thing that came to my mind, is she one of those nurses who treats obese patients as second class citizens. Believe me, in NO WAY can you use anorexia and WLS in one sentence as having similarities. My 18 YO daughter has been fighting anorexia for the past four years and there is absolutely NO correlation between the two. As the others have already said, anorexia is strictly a mental illness. Not much more to add to what the other responses already say. You do what YOU believe is right for YOU. Just today someone, upon hearing I am having the surgery, started with the horror stories they've heard. Well, I have researched it up and down and I am quite aware of possible complications and also quite aware of all the many positives of this surgery I have chosen to have for myself.
   — Denise K.

May 27, 2000
Voluntary anorexia? No.. anorexia is being thin and thinking you're fat and refusing to eat. People who have Gastric Bypass Surgery aren't refusing to eat, they are helping themselves not to eat as much anymore so that they'll lose weight and LIVE. Just because the woman's a nurse doesn't mean that she knows everything. There are doctors out there who think that every single solitary person in the world can lose weight if they'll just follow a simple Jenny Craig or Weight Watchers diet.. is that true? No, because if it were, then there would be no such thing as Gastric Bypass and we'd all be at Weight Watchers and Jenny Craig right now. Another example.. a friend of mine has a sister who is a registered nurse working for an insurance company. She told my friend that anyone who considers having Gastric Bypass Surgery is an idiot because they all end up having to wear diapers because NONE of them can ever control their bowel movements again and soil themselves every day for the rest of their lives. Well, sorry.. I don't care if this woman is a nurse, I think if every single person who had ever had gastric bypass surgery wore diapers and soiled themselves on a daily basis, then there would be a lot more posted about it on this website and talked about at support meetings, etc. My aunt had the surgery 20 years ago... back in the days when this surgery was still new and even SHE doesn't wear any diaper.. never has. So, I'd take what that woman said with a grain of salt dear. She obviously doesn't know what she's talking about.
   — Jennifer K.

May 27, 2000
I am so sorry your aunt is so misinformed, and frankly I think she made a very hurtful remark. Please don't allow her opinion to deter you from this life saving surgery. Let her know that her opinion has been noted and move on with what you have to do. Good luck:)
   — Paula G.

May 27, 2000
People are going to say stupid stuff,about anything and especially if they feel that they are helping you in some way. I can't count the number of people who have tried to help me with a diet, one person even asked me if I had ever tried dieting. ( I laughed for about 3 hours over that one!) The most ridiculous statment I have recieved so far is "Why can't you just PRETEND you have had the surgery and eat really tiny meals?" My response was "How about if I just PRETEND I am skinny and wear a string bikini?" You have to remember this surgery is not for anyone else but YOU. I had to tell people really close to me that my surgery (coming October 9) is not about them or for them. This is for me and about me.
   — Cara S.

May 28, 2000
Joyce. There are always people who think they know more about what is best for you than you do. I had my surgery 5 years ago, I do not feel I am or have ever been anorexia in the 5 years. I have lost 145 pounds and feel better than I have ever felt in my life. I find people who tell me stories about things they really no nothing at all about. Do what you feel is best for you. You have alot of support form all of us who have gone before you. Ever need a friend or need a question answered please feel free. Avis Gandy agandy@bellatlantic
   — Avis G.

May 28, 2000
Obviously, this aunt who is a nurse in not well-informed. She needs to be educated so that she can make accurate statements about the surgery. Maybe you can explain to her exactly how the surgery works, and why. Anorexia is a psychiatric disorder. Morbid obesity is a medical disorder. It's sad that she's perpetuating the false information out there about a lifesaving procedure. Maybe you will be the one to educate her and change her mind about this! Good luck. Jaye Carl, RN
   — Jaye C.

May 29, 2000
Lord save us from the imbeciles of the world! A story ... during the most crazy time of my weight-loss history, in 1980, I lost 65 pounds in 6 weeks by basically eating nothing. I existed on a hard-boiled egg, a couple of lettuce leaves, four gallons of black coffee, and about three packs of cigarettes a day. At the weight-loss clinic I was attending, I was practically the poster girl. Inside, I was completely crazed. If I wasn't hanging off the ceiling by my fingernails, I was crying uncontrollably. I would play games with myself, wondering how few calories I could eat on a single day without fainting. I had it down to about 150. My mother called our local mental health facility to inquire about having me committed. Don't ask me how I kept my job. I WAS anorexic, and God willing I'll ever be that insane again, about food or anything else. I had an open VBG six weeks ago today, and I feel better than I have for about ten years. WLS is NOT anorexia ... I know from personal experience. Take this opportunity to educate your aunt on what's really happening!
   — Cheryl Denomy




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