Surgery Done.....Two Words............

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on 9/19/09 6:13 pm
Deb hang in there, it sounds like you are on the upswing and that is a great place to be. Thank goodness for the recliner! Just remember to sip sip sip and stay hydrated. It only gets better.

Here are my questions:

1) what is a binder?
2) what is the nor cal mimi's group? I live in Hayward maybe I am a mimi too? lol


Take Care!
Meg

Deb B.
on 9/20/09 3:01 pm - East Bay Area, CA
Thanks Meg

I am feeling better everyday.  My fam makes it a point to tell me I look so much better everyday.

A binder is a wide long velcro belt that goes around your midsection to hold you stomach mucles for you.  I can walk so much more and longer with it.  I love it.  I put a thin tshirt under it and make it fairly tight.

The mimi's group is the norcal group that I think its Barbara2 organizes.  Everyone gets together at an central bay area location for support and face to face comrauderie.  Atleast I think thats what it is.........I haven't been yet!  Going to try this Saturday.  Would love to see you and maybe you could carpool with MaryKay below.........she is in Fremont :-)  Would love to meet you guys
            
Deb B.
on 9/20/09 2:39 pm - East Bay Area, CA
Oh I would love to drive with you Mary Kaye but I probably live closer to Walnut Creek than you do.  I'm not in Fremont but in the Brentwood Area............I hope to get to be there.  You're so sweet to offer. 
Im doing better and not doubting...........I should have anticipated the issue as my bowels took a while to get going with the birth and emergency csection of my first born.,.........but you know what they say.......a baby makes you forget all the hell you go through, lol. 
Thank You Mary Kaye........hope to see you Sat.
            
georgiapeachinla
on 9/20/09 3:12 am, edited 9/20/09 3:12 am
Glad you feel better
 But you are right about the abdominal binder my surgeon made me wear up to the first week past surgery.. after that   I was told not to use it.. but is does keep all the midsection in order.. I SLEEP IN THE RECLINER, and COUCH SITTING UP FOR A WHILE... but it will pass in about two or three weeks...

TAKE CARE
"When you feel like giving up, remember why you held on for so long in the first place."   
Lisa 
                                        
cabin111
on 9/20/09 2:31 pm
Everything you ever wanted to know about Ileus...I had it when I had my heart bypass operation...They had to pump my stomach...worst time of my life.  Anyways below is the Wiki on it.

Ileus is a disruption of the normal propulsive gastrointestinal motor activity due to non-mechanical causes[1][2]. In contrast, motility disorders that result from structural abnormalities are termed mechanical bowel obstruction. Some mechanical obstructions are misnomers, such as gallstone ileus and meconium ileus, and are not true examples of ileus by the classic definition [3].

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[edit] Types

[edit] Postoperative Ileus

It is a temporary paralysis of a portion of the intestines typically after an abdominal surgery. Since the intestinal content of this portion is unable to move forward, food or drink should be avoided until peristaltic sound is heard from auscultation of the area where this portion lies.

[edit] Paralytic Ileus

Paralysis of the intestine. To be termed "paralytic ileus," the intestinal paralysis need not be complete, but it must be sufficient to prohibit the passage of food through the intestine and lead to intestinal blockage.

Paralytic ileus is a common aftermath of some types of surgery. It can also result from certain drugs and from various injuries and illnesses . Paralytic ileus causes constipation and bloating. On listening to the abdomen with a stethoscope, no bowel sounds are heard because the bowel is inactive.

[edit] Acute colonic pseudoobstruction

Also known as Ogilvie's syndrome

[edit] Pathogenesis

Gangrenous ileum.

[edit] Inhibitory neural reflexes

[edit] Inflammation

Ileus may increase adhesion formation, because intestinal segments have more prolonged contact, allowing fibrous adhesions to form, and intestinal distention causes serosal injury and ischemia. Intestinal distention has been shown to cause adhesions in foals [4]. Some respondents also mentioned the importance of walking horses postoperatively to stimulate motility. Repeat celiotomy to decompress chronically distended small intestine and remove fibrinous adhesions is also a useful method of treating ileus and reducting adhesions, and it has been associated with a good outcome [5][6]

[edit] Neurohumoral peptides

[edit] Symptoms

Symptoms of ileus include, but are not limited to:

[edit] Risk Factors

[edit] Treatment

Nil per os (NPO or "Nothing by Mouth") is mandatory in all cases. Nasogastric suction and parenteral feeds may be required until passage is restored.

There are several options in the case of paralytic ileus. Most treatment is supportive. If caused by medication, the offending agent is discontinued or reduced. Bowel movements may be stimulated by prescribing lactulose, erythromycin or, in severe cases (Ogilvie's syndrome), neostigmine.

If possible the underlying cause is corrected (e.g. replace electrolytes).

cabin111
on 9/20/09 2:35 pm
Sorry didn't want to show that gross picture.  It is very common and treatable.  You should be fine.  Brian
Deb B.
on 9/20/09 2:44 pm - East Bay Area, CA
I didnt mind the pic Brian
thanks for the info.  The docs like to be real technical but all it came down to was my intestine was still asleep........the binder keeping me tucked in and a nice suppository  with about 6 laps woke it right up just and hour before I went home! 

Thanks for the info.  You are what make a site like this such an awesome resource. Thank you again!
            
MadameJoy
on 9/20/09 4:14 pm - Jamestown, CA
Deb, First I would like to say welcome to the losers bench and hang on baby this will be one hellava ride!!!!
And Secondly, Nor Cal group is for anyone from anywhere that want to socialize with other WLSP. I have yet managed to make it for a number of reasons.The fact that it is 260 miles round trip is one reason, though not the biggest reason it is mostly just timing....and the list goes on and on. But I really would love to meet with some of the wonderful people from this board. And I have met many of them and they are all a great bunch of people I can promise you that for sure.
As far as you dealing with the "lazy gut" and that is what it boils down to, it isn't that uncommon really. I know of a few that have wore binders. Though my Dr never mentioned it. I didn't sleep in a recliner or have any of the discomfort many have dealt with BUT I have had a number of "open" abdominal surgeries over the pass years and WLS was one of the easiest one as far as discomfort goes. 6 punches (holes in my belly as my sister called them) were a walk in the park compared to the open surgery from breast bone to pubis!!!!I slept in my own bed from the first day home after WLS. This was the smartest thing I have done in years and I have NO regret what so ever.
I do have one question...Why are you so hormonal?? Or teary? Is it because of the emotional roller coaster of having WLS surgery or something else? Me, I used to cry for NO reason at all. I could not have a conversation with anyone for almost 2 years when I first became disabled and I was put on a multitude of anti-depressants and yeah some stopped the crying and some made me angry all the time and others made me feel nothing at all. And for about 2 1/2 years I felt nothing at all. Well, I no longer take any of those meds, for depression that is. I still take a truck load of meds and I am still disabled (see profile) But I have found that the more I do to stay busy both mentally and physically I do so very much better emtionally...Duh, go figure huh!? LOL
OMG, there I go again...diarrhea of the mouth...AGAIN!!!! Sorry, someone stop me please!!! LOL
Well, Sweetie, I hope you are feeling better with each passing day and I am sure you will. And I so look forward to meeting you at one of the gatherings wheather it is the bay area luncheon or some other get together I am sure we will get the chance, soon I hope.
Hugs and Healing thoughts
Blessed Be
JOY

Deb B.
on 9/20/09 5:21 pm - East Bay Area, CA
Oh Joy,

I am so glad you posted.  I think a 260 mile drive warrants a NOrcal weekend once every 3 mos or so.  Maybe meet up at a restaurant then shop, go to movies or gocart racing.........what the heck! That far without an overnighter would be difficult for me.

My emotions are probably just the whole process and being on the otherside of the decision, the medical surgery part and getting to the bench.   My process was rather quick and without the years of battle over insurance.  My friend took a year in the program with Kaiser prior.  I had a surgery date within 2.5 months.   It's a bit about meeting new people and friends and sharing a very personal part of my life with people i have never met.  There are friends I have known for years that don't know I've had or even considered surgery.  I've only shared with a few people I knew I could rely on or count on to be real with me. 

Like you said I am in for the ride of my life and i'm finding that includes my emotions.  I'm not sad or depressed but even the 'happy as heck' me is coming with some tears lately.

Thanks Joy I hope I get to meet you soon!

Debbie


            
Rachelynka
on 9/21/09 7:03 am - Pinole, CA
Welcome to the losers bench, Deb!  Im sorry you had so much trouble, but I am really glad to hear you are on the mend.  Hope to meet you at Mimi's Cafe this weekend!  Hugs!
~Rachelynka               
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