Why I do it

(deactivated member)
on 1/12/09 10:23 am - San Jose, CA
I just want pre-ops to make a FULLY informed decision.  So you post-ops of other surgeries need not read this -- especially if you're the type who gets all butt-hurt from reading my posts about the benefits of the DS as compared to YOUR surgery.

Post in which people rejoiced in the DSers posting about the DS on other boards:
http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/DS/3484967/Who-benefited-f rom-DSers-posting-on-other-forums/

The "DS Math" post:
http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/amos/3497583/DS-math/

Post with several references that compare RNY & DS for weight loss and diabetes resolution:
http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/rny/3484588/sugar-lows-aft er-RNY/

The "More Evidence the DS is Superior" post:
http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/amos/3496799/More-evidence -supporting-the-superiority-of-the-DS/

And here's one from today:  Topic: I have officially converted from the RNY surgery to the DS surgery

Pre-ops: you might want to come read the DS Forum -- in particular the Daily Food and Fitness threads -- and see how the DS life differs from that of the other weight loss surgeries.

And no, I don't need any more toasters.
Living Life
on 1/12/09 10:49 am - Riverside, CA
Gosh, I am going to kick my self for this....
But do you get a kick back for everyone that does the DS?? You sure are pimping it hard. If its is as great as you  say, you should not have to pimp it. It should stand on its own.

Just my thoughts, But hey, Im a blond RNY

L
Janine J.
on 1/12/09 11:03 am - The Beautiful Desert, CA
You're not a blond RNY...you're a redhead now!!! And don't kick yourself in the bootie....I am sure all the DS'ers will  ROTFL   






“When you find peace within yourself, you become the kind of person who can live at peace with others.” –Peace Pilgrim (1908-1981).

Living Life
on 1/12/09 11:12 am - Riverside, CA
Already for it.
Pimping is pimping.
I love my RNY and will talk til I am blue in the face about it, but I do NOT go out pimping it, I believe it can "sell" it self.

Red or blond, Proub to be m. 

 
(deactivated member)
on 1/12/09 11:12 am - San Jose, CA
I get toasters.

If every pre-op -- or even most -- knew correct information about the DS, including their ability to fight their insurance company and WIN, especially in CA, before they determined which surgery to have, I would be doing something else with my spare time.  But they don't.
Rick_SoCal
on 1/12/09 11:38 am - Fontana, CA
I just do not understand this......I am new to this site but as far as I can see, there are forums for all the different surgical procedures here. Why are these types of posts being placed on the wrong forum.

I am sure that if a person is exploring thier options for what type of surgery they would consider, they would explore this forum as I did. There is no reason for this stuff to keep being posted here. I think that this person is now doing this in spite just to iritate a few of the good forum members here.

Moderaters please step in and solve this issue.....It needs to go away
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(deactivated member)
on 1/12/09 11:44 am - San Jose, CA
Why should it go away?  If you aren't interested, don't read my posts.  In fact, please feel free to block me.

There is nothing wrong with my posting information for pre-ops on ANY message board I want to.  And I live in CA, so I have every right (not that there is any reason for ANYONE who wants to post here not to do so) to post on this board.

Am I using up your share of electrons?
dogma2karma
on 1/12/09 12:28 pm - Suburbia, CA
You're right, Rick, you don't understand this.  This is the perfect place for a post like this informing Californian pre-op of the availability of the DS.  One such post like this really helped me when I was researching my options.

I don't understand why you feel this is the wrong forum for sharing info about the availability and benefits of a certain procedure to californians?  The mods should step in and do what?  Only posts that, do what, will be allowed?   

The reason it keeps getting posted here is because it helps people.  Why are you against helping people?  I don't get that, really, I don't.

Why do people think just because they have already made their decision that no one else needs newbie info?  Who says other people have to research only the way you did, by going to the forums you went to?

What needs to go away are the posts telling people to go away.
259.5/227.5/122/118
8.5 months post DSNormal BMI, woohoo!
Laurie LOVES her DS
on 1/12/09 1:28 pm - Southern, CA
Well Rick, yes as a matter of fact you are new.

And yes there are surgical forums for each procedure.

But this is the CALIFORNIA board and is open to any Californian with ANY wls procedure. So no you are wrong.  This is not the wrong forum

LIke Diana, I had a DS and am a Californian and we can post all we want here.

One more thing you are wrong about. Maybe YOU are a good researcher, but the majority of people figure that gastric bypass and RNY are the same thing and good enough ,,,, wheel me into the OR.


PRE OPS ...  Want a surgery that has the least chance of long-term re-gain, is BEST at curing your Diabetes (98%+), removes much of the hunger hormone Ghrelin, NO DUMPING, NO MARGINAL ULCERS and NO STOMA / STRICTURES? CURIOUS WHY I CHOSE THE DS?  VISIT MY PROFILE.

(deactivated member)
on 1/12/09 1:40 pm, edited 1/12/09 1:42 pm - San Jose, CA
FYI: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pub med&pubmedid=16998370

Duodenal Switch Provides Superior Weight Loss in the Super-Obese (BMI ≥50kg/m2) Compared With Gastric Bypass

  Vivek N. Prachand, MD, Roy T. DaVee, BS, and John C. Alverdy, MD From the University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
    Small right arrow pointing to: This article has been cited by other articles in PMC.
Abstract

 

Objectives: Although weight loss following Roux-en-Y gastric bypass is acceptable in patients with preoperative body mass index (BMI) between 35 and 50 kg/m2, results from several series demonstrate that failure rates approach 40% when BMI is ≥50 kg/m2. Here we report the first large single institution series directly comparing weight-loss outcomes in super-obese patients following biliopancreatic diversion with duodenal switch (DS) and Roux-en-Y Gastric Bypass (RYGB).


Oh, and from the conclusion:

Importantly, the likelihood of successful weight loss (EBWL >50%) was significantly greater in patients following DS (12 months, 83.9% vs. 70.4%; 18 months, 90.3% vs. 75.9%; 36 months, 84.2% vs. 59.3%; P < 0.05). CONCLUSIONS: Direct comparison of DS to RYGB demonstrates superior weight loss outcomes for DS.

That means that at 3 years out, more than 40% of the RNYers had FAILED to maintain a weight loss of more than 50% of their starting excess weight.

At your starting weight of well over 400 lbs, that means you have a 40% chance of ending up well over 300 lbs in 3 years.  Not the kind of odds I wanted to face.
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