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Hi Stephmags -
I"m going for surgery in one day. We will leave on Wednesday morning but have surgery on Thursday. I"m looking forward to the next steps in this journey and hoping it will stay off this time.
Are you have the SADI or the full DS? I'm going to talk to my doctor when I get there it decide which is best for me..
Barbara
What does VSG stand for?
I had my DS in April 2010. Best thing I ever did. Now I hear this surgery isn't done anymore, is that true or did I receive bogus info? I have not looked into it yet to find out why. I know far too many people that had other kinds of bariatric surgery, lost weight, then gained it all back plus a lot more.
VSG - vertical sleeve gastrectomy
Just my opinion but I would assume the DS isn't done much anymore for several reasons - #1 too many people aren't or won't stay compliant with the lifetime commitment and #2 it's a difficult surgery and many surgeons just aren't experienced with the DS.
Janet in Leesburg
DS 2/25/03
Hazem Elariny
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on 8/30/21 10:44 am
What does VSG stand for?
I had my DS in April 2010. Best thing I ever did. Now I hear this surgery isn't done anymore, is that true or did I receive bogus info? I have not looked into it yet to find out why. I know far too many people that had other kinds of bariatric surgery, lost weight, then gained it all back plus a lot more.
on 8/30/21 10:36 am, edited 8/30/21 7:43 pm
Greetings.
I am taking 30 tablets (5mg elemental copper each) in the morning on an empty stomach with a couple quarts of water, four hours before taking any other supplements. Six months ago my level was .65, three months ago it was .67 and last Friday it was .62. It's been in this range since Dec. 2020. Normal range is .80 to 1.75.
I'm not sure what long-term effects sending 150 mg of copper through my tract is having long-term. Also, I'd like to get up into the normal range. But upping my intake by 50% three months ago resulted in no increase--it decreased slightly.
My DS was done in 2010 by Dr. Daniel B. Leslie, MD. My copper has bounced in and out of the normal range but averaged higher than it has been lately.
I can get an infusion if necessary, but I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions of a different form of copper to take. I tried the gluconate powder from Bulk Supplements but it didn't help, and it made me nauseous (taking ginger powder with it mitigated this slightly.)
Has anyone else here struggled to get their copper levels up?
Hi, I had my surgery back in August of 2010. I haven't been on in soooo long, but have gained a bit since this pandemic and saw the newsletter today and came back on. I think I needed this, I remember you KitKat.... I think you used to review our labs for us and do evening check ins, right? I need to start this again!!! Let me know if you're still posting. I think I'm back!!
Carolyn
you may need to pay cash for the other test that may relate to the eye health.
Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG
"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"
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"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."
I have rosacea and eating some foods triggers inflammation of my face, left side, that also includes my eye. My retina.
I pretty much can control the face and eye inflammation with a proper diet. Most of the time. When almost anything I eat would trigger the inflammation, I know my SIBO is out of control and I need to deal with that. (very strict diet for a few weeks, or diet plus Rx meds).
I would suggest you get tested for food allergies. Have in mind that if there is food that you eat very seldom, or that you completely eliminated from your diet, then you may get non-reactive on skin scratch test, simply because you avoid that for a long time.
I.e.. during one testing I was found to be really allergic to dairy and almost dangerously allergic to soy. I avoided all dairy and soy, even traces of soy for a couple of years. Then I got retested and the skin scratch test show no reaction to dairy or soy.
Unfortunately, once I introduced both back into my diet, within a short time I started having the same symptoms of allergies to them.
Now I try to avoid them, but i know that as long as I am very careful, getting some by accident is not going kill me or affect me really bad (i.e. I get reaction to whey proteins within hours of me having any, but casein, the main protein in aged cheese, my body tolerates once in a while. )
Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG
"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"
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"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."
I have a Medcenter pill organizer. There is a container for each day of the month. There are four compartments marked Morning, Noon, Evening, and Night.
Once a month, I organize every pill and vitamin in the right section. Then I take the container out each day and take the pills at the correct times.
Once I figured everything out, then it takes me about 30 minutes once a month to refill the containers. Mine also has a reminder that will say, Time to take your morning medicine, etc.
It cost me about $50 years ago and has been a big help for me taking the right pills at the right times. You can buy one without the timer and just use Siri or other app to remind you to take pills. The timer was more useful back in 2007 when we did not have all the smart devices that we have now.
MedCenter Pill Organizer

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends
We are far enough out from surgery-it ceases to be about mal absorption and begins to be about utilization of what we take. 2X a day and all basics are in.
Don't give up. There is A solution. You Will find the one that works with your body!.
all multi vites., some c( i take C in good amounts n divided dose, to tolerance.- since i rarely eat citrus...,..+iron. .morning,
selenium, and copper, iodine - can be taken morning or night.
mag, calcium, d3, K2,(wally wrld has a combo dry D3 w/K2 in one skinny cap. dose on it is one daily- then i take 5K more D3.)..some c,+zinc, Vit E(if you require 2 part can be taken in mornng).,...at night ,Logic:,,all of these are required together for best use of mag, cal.
huuummmm...Check your form of magnesium!-
maybe try foot soaks-to replace/pills.. this CAN give huge explosive BM's and gas....citrate form esp!
ALSO:Check how many of your vitamins/supplemnts are oil based?
If you take eye vitamins-common (gel) caps of lutein, astazanthin, CoQ10, E,+D are all oil based in common use...Dry forms(cap) of D3 and E are available...
alternates to reduce pills- . ...could do epsom salt foot soak 2x week for magnesium.......magnesium oil as muscle rub will give you absorb-able magnesium as well.
I use a zinc lozenge part of the time... cold-eze. it is fully absorbed and i use one abt Q 5 days..
.Any meds daily i take 30 min -1 hr before supplements EXCEPT PREVACID./for gastritis - i take it if i flare.
I take no regular meds. Occ something for gastritis.. have some herbals for pain - moringa, willow bark are my tolerated
It does not really matter if pos or neg, that is for Rh factor.... if A blood type..
The doctors have no clue because is in long term care of ppl w/ WLS.
They are "not read" on the subject- have not encountered. IT is not a common problem.
I would rate explosions at night as needs resolution last week and the hgb as need to address now.
Each of these i have experienced to some degree, mine was not " just" night.
Neither of these treatment/trials are expensive and are generally safe..if imodium works for you- like me- will be well worth the trial..and you will know by morning..
Both are something to "trial" when others have offered no solutions or answers. after i got my iron levels up, i use maintenance dose of 2 caps 2 x a week- i just hate to take pills and have limited space for them...
With all the vitamins i take they say you can't or shouldn't take this one or that one together or take different ones with any medication and you have to space them 2 hours apart I don't have enough time in a day because they say don't take certain one's together but space them 2 hours apart. ? I GIVE UP.?
Starting weight 333 lb Gold weight 180 lb















