Is there a comprehensive list of places that honor our surgery cards?

Hadrian
on 6/9/13 6:33 am
VSG on 06/13/13
Does anyone know of certain restaurants have corporate policies on this or is it up to the server/manager's discretion? Has anyone ever been denied?
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on 6/9/13 6:45 am

Way_Out_There
Member Since: 10/11/09
[Latest Posts]Post Date: 10/13/09 1:03 pm 
A “Restaurant Card” is a business cards sized card, often laminated, usually given by surgeons reading something to the effect of:

The holder of this card has had a surgical procedure which has permanently reduced their stomach capacity. Therefore… It is greatly appreciated if you would allow them to order from the children’s menu or to purchase half-sized adult entrees. Thank you for your consideration.

1. WLS Restaurant Cards differ from REAL Discount Cards such as AAA, Entertainment Book, etc. in one very important aspect: The REAL discounts are negotiated and agreed to by all parties in advance. The restaurant staff is briefed on how to handle the card. It is PRESUMPTUOUS to create and distribute a card asking/demanding a discount.

2. Restaurants are put into a losing position to start. If they say “no” to the card, which they had no part in creating or marketting, they are already making the customer unhappy. How is this fair even putting them in that position? Were I a restaurant owner, I would resent this card about as much as someone demanding a discount because they are a VIP (Very Important Person).

3. I had surgery. It was my choice to have my stomach modified so that I could only eat 3-5 ounces of food at a sitting. There are many people that have not had surgery that CHOOSE to eat 3-5 ounces of food at a sitting (imagine that!). I do not deserve a discount, or a special menu, any more than they do.

4. “I eat less than most children; I should pay what they pay”. Children’s prices are a marketing tactic to get parents to bring their kids (and themselves) to a restaurant. Children’s menu’s are not because children eat so little. Children’s menus are designed for children’s tastes. Bland and greasy. 

5. Seniors Menus are also a marketing tactic to get seniors to come to the restaurant. If you’re not a senior, you don’t DESERVE a discount because you eat less than a senior. Many restaurants offer a ‘For Smaller Appetites’ Menu, this you may qualify for.

6. I don’t want the hostess, waitress, people behind me or near by, the busboy, or anyone else to know my medical history. It is none of their business, and I should not be making it their business simply to get a discount.

7. Buffets are “All you can eat for…” If all you can eat is 3-5 ounces, the price is the same as when you ate 30-50 ounces or 300-500 ounces. When you could eat 2, 3, or 4 times what the average person could eat, did you ask to pay more? Of course not. To remain morally consistent, you cannot ask to pay less now.

8. “I didn’t choose the buffet, my family did… Why should I pay when I only eat 3-5 ounces.” See #7. Further, you are there to be with your family or friends. Eating out now is even more about the company you keep rather that getting the most food for the least price. Actually, it should always have been about the company.

9. “I didn’t choose the buffet, my family did…” So, before WLS, did you pay less when you wanted Mexican food, but your family outvoted you and you ended up with Chinese? No, you went along to keep peace, to enjoy the company. Whatever your reasons were then, they’re the same now.

10. “I can’t eat all that, I can’t take leftovers home, I don’t want to waste it.” Waste it. Leaving leftovers is not the end of the world. In spite of what your mama said, leaving food on your plate is not a sin, and it will not help starving children in China for you to clean your plate now. You are not obliged to clean your plate. IN FACT, restaurants try to serve enough to satisfy large appetites and they expect people NOT to eat it all. They have trash cans out back for all the left over food.

11. Do you demand a discount at convenience store on a bag of potato chips because you can’t eat the whole bag, and a lot will go to waste? Why not, it’s the SAME THING.

12. Dinner at Chili’s cost $15 before WLS, and you left satisfied. Post-op, the same dinner costs $15 and you leave satisfied. The only difference is you leave food on the plate rather than nose marks. Often, rather than ordering a $15 dinner, you can order $10 appetizer, and you are ahead of the game.

13. "Restaurants should be considerate of WLS Patients." Restaurants should be considerate of EVERYONE. There are many groups of adults that eat less than 'normal', yet they do not expect discounts.

Obviously, or perhaps not so obviously, these arguments presume that people have integrity and that they desire their actions and opinions to be rational, supportable, and consistent. There are those that will do whatever is necessary to get a discount, which these arguments will not dissuade from this course.

Mlkpas
on 6/9/13 11:56 am - Pasadena, CA

I completely agree with all of this.


That said, at very casual restaurants I often politely ask if I can order off the children's menu because, I say, "I have a small appetite," and I can't remember the last time I was refused.  At fancier places I often order only an appetizer or two and call it a day.

I'm 5'2" and 55 years old.  VSG 3/17/10





 

hollykim
on 6/9/13 7:04 am - Nashville, TN
Revision on 03/18/15

There is no list and it is left to the managers discretion. People are denied all the time.

 


          

 

pineview01
on 6/9/13 7:06 am, edited 6/9/13 7:11 am - Davison, MI

I don't have a list of places but, many have worked with me.  When they don't I order an appetizer, soup or chili.  I try to frequent restaurants that have better choices.  

I have used the card when I went to a buffet with a large group (20/30) and some honor the request.  One said they would play it by ear (they had the pay after.)  When they saw how little I ate, they only charged for the drink 

Most times I just order and just ask for a to go box.  No card used.

BAND REMOVED 9-4-12-fought insurance to get sleeve and won! Sleeved 1/22/13! Five years out and trying to get that last 15 pounds back off.

Hadrian
on 6/9/13 7:06 am
VSG on 06/13/13
I agree. Getting a sleeve isn't supposed to be economically justified with a surgery card. Honestly I'm not telling but 2-3 family members I'm getting sleeved so why tell a few complete strangers to get a buck. I'm just interested in this dynamic of the journey. I found it interesting that they handed me that card.
KJS1228
on 6/9/13 7:14 am

Interesting...I didn't get a card!


 HW:  306   |   CW:  148.8|   GW:  149   Sleeved 5/30/13  Friend me on MFP: KJS1228

    

    
BlossomD
on 6/9/13 7:27 am
VSG on 03/19/13

I got a card.  I have never used it and never will.  I think it's a load of crap.  most restaurants my husband and I have gone to have 1/2 order choices and I do that and even tho this early out for me results in me not being able to even finish the 1/2 version there are take home containers.  And children's menu's are crap nutrition wise. 

    

3/6/13: Started 2 week pre-op fast for surgery: Lost 11 pounds

3/19:  Surgery

Nancybefree
on 6/9/13 7:43 am
VSG on 11/21/12

My surgeon provides a printable PDF for a card, but I really only carry it around with me next to my DL in case there is an emergency so that responders can know that I have been sleeved. 

I think I would either go the appetizer route or else order what I can eat, section out that meal's portion,and box the rest right away, which is a tactic that many have employed. 

 

5'8"    HRW 357 on 7/09/12    SW 339   >196 8/26/13 (surgeon's goal)   TWL  193     CW   164 

*:•-:¦:-•:*1st pers. goal 178 on 10/16/13; ultimate goal 164 on 12/13/13*:•-:¦:-•:* 

grayC
on 6/9/13 8:01 am
VSG on 05/01/13
My dr doesn't provide a card and I'm just fine with that..
I figured I'd either order soup or chili and if I don't want that but an entree,
I'd make the wisest choice and have leftovers..so I get 2 meals or more out of it...

   

        
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