Even vs. odd number sized pants

Am I crazy or have sizing procedures changed over the last decade? I used to buy, in the women's section, size 9 or 11 pants (or odd numbered pants). Now there only seem to be even sized pants. Odd numbered sizes are available in the teen section, but I don't see them in the women's section anymore. I shopped in the plus size section for so long I must have totally missed when this change happened in the clothing industry.

And I just have to shout out my latest WOW moment: I am now the proud owner of a size 13 pair of jeans from the teen section. Who's your daddy?!?!?! I grabbed them to try on just for ****s and giggles, to see how close I was to that size, and they fit - no squirming or laying on the floor to get them zipped! I almost bought the entire stack of them just cause it felt so good to have that size in my hands.

Ha ha...I know how you feel!  I wiggled easily into my size 24 overalls this morning for the 1st time in 10 years and woah...what a feeling. 

Congrats on your WOW moment! It's those seemingly little moments that help make this all worth it and get us through the hard times.

As far as I can remember, even numbers were misses, and odd numbers were juniors sizes.  The Juniors sizes are less curvy (cuz teens haven't gotten much of that yet)...so not only are you buying from the "average girl" section, but you've just affirmed that you're getting narrow in the hips.  Hows that for a wow?

You know, I never thought about the hip thing with the teen pants. Now it is an even bigger wow! LOL!

And I guess I am losing it in my old age. I just must not remember that I shopped in the misses section - I always thought it was the women's section. But obviously if this is how it's been for a long time, I must be remembering incorrectly. (Does that sound sarcastic? Cause I'm being totally sincere. Meaning can be so lost in typing.)

Thanks!

I wondered about this....

In some stores it's 8, 10, 12 and in other stores, it's 9, 11, 13...

Looking back, it's the YOUNGER stores (junior, I guess) that have the odd sizes.  Thanks for clarifying this - it's been a mystery until now!

I don't really know when it changed, I think it used to be 7-8 because I remember clearly my mother wearing the 7, they must have dropped it at some point and made it a straight size.  Sizes have dropped over the years also, that I have noticed, what was a size 18, 20+ year ago is now a size 14.  I currently weigh 135ish lbs and wear a size 4 or 6, yes from the misses dept, I have trouble with the teens sizes because I still have a big butt and I get muffin butt if I wear anything too low rise.  lol

Hugs Heidi

Junior odd sizes are not only smaller in the hips but thigh and butt too...you are the incredible shrinking girl!!!!

The last time my tail was in a junior size anything I was like 19 or 20...10 years ago...wow.

Props to you!!!

The odd numbered sizes are cut narrower in the hips.

Adding to the confusion, in the even number sizes, if there is a W after the size (i.e., 16W versus 16), they are cut wider in the hips.

If there is a P after the size (i.e., 16P versus 16), they are intended to fit women 5'4" or shorter and usually are cut smaller in the rise and shoulders, with shorter arms and legs on the garments.

Yes, you can have both a P and W after the number.  It means you are short woman with generous hips.

The reason problem is that there is no uniformity of sizing within the U.S. and, if a size fits you in one brand, it may not fit you in another brand so it's usually to your benefit to try on unfamilliar brands and, if you are a loser like us, to try on the same brand you have been wearing but n various sizes.

When the losing process is over, I am giving serious consideration as to taking sewing classes.

Lisa

You are not crazy.  I can remember when I was in my 20's and wore much smaller pants and I could see the pants on the rack in the stores and take them home.  Today you have to try them on or try them on at home and hope they fit.  Alot of them are cut different.  I am 168 and 5'3" and wearing a 18 where as I have read girls weighting 165 wearing size 8 and I think to my self whats up with that?