No TAN is SAFE.

vitalady
on 3/22/11 8:51 am - Puyallup, WA
RNY on 10/05/94
Note that pro body builders use a product call Pro Tan (or similar), so this is tan in a tube, so to speak. To get this definition, they also dehydrate for 24 hrs. None of it is good. I don't know how they do their routines that dehydrated!

Being a redhead, I've seen a derma 3-4 times/yr for more than 30 yrs. We've caught 2 basel cells and an uncountable number of "AK"s, pre-cancerous lesions.

Although I've stayed out of deliberate sun since my early 20's, I did drive a convertible for 30 years. Guess where the damage is? Hands and face.

Michelle
RNY, distal, 10/5/94 

P.S.  My year + long absence has NOTHING to do with my WLS, or my type of WLS. See my profile.

M M
on 3/22/11 10:20 am
 If I get skin cancer - it will be on my forehead - where I used to wear a hat backwards and BURN THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS OUT OF MY FACE as a kid.  It's freckled to hell.
vitalady
on 3/22/11 10:40 am - Puyallup, WA
RNY on 10/05/94
Im pretty sure I was born with freckles. Not really optional with red hair. And since we travel in the sun zones, my freckles leap out by the 3rd day on the road.

Again, I sort of run from shade to shade, but the damage is done by age 30 they say.

Michelle
RNY, distal, 10/5/94 

P.S.  My year + long absence has NOTHING to do with my WLS, or my type of WLS. See my profile.

MsBatt
on 3/23/11 7:52 am
If the damage is done by age 30, can I just give up on feeling guilty about not wearing sunscreen NOW?

The two worst sunburns I ever had I got in a convertible, on an overcast day.
vitalady
on 3/23/11 12:11 pm - Puyallup, WA
RNY on 10/05/94
Well, pretty much.

When I was 17 and knew all there was about everything, I thought being such a fair redhead should not stop me from being able to force a tan onto my white skin.

I laid on a black roof in a black bikini for 5 hrs straight. Sun like that makes me nauseated, so I had a wet cloth on my face.

I had blisters the size of half dollars. Couldn't walk, sit or sleep, because I was VERY thorough and made sure that no only ever front and back surface was exposed in 15 minute intervals, but also inner thighs, arms, as well. I was in bed, in misery for a week. Since I was at my grandparents, any food was down the stairs, and I couldn't do stairs at all, so stayed in bed. I don't even think I was hydrated!

Looking back now, if it was my child, after I took her birthday, I woulda taken her to an urgent care. After the first batch of blisters opened and oozed, that skin developed another set and another. I think it was a more serious burn than they realized and I'm sure I was dehydrated.

After that, I hid from the sun. Only more time did I make blisters. I was sitting in a pond with my toddlers. Legs under water, shirt over my bathing suit. We were playing in the water. So I was bent fwd slightly. So,thinking of a regular one piece with a scoop in back, now the shirt rides up a bit, so I had an oval space there that blistered not as bad as when I was 17, but I was so mad because I'd been careful for so many years.

But it's the convertible damage that I'm paying for now. The basel cells were hand and face.

I'm not faithful to sunscreen, because I am almost instantly nauseated by heat and/or sun so you can watch me scramble from shade to shade.

Michelle
RNY, distal, 10/5/94 

P.S.  My year + long absence has NOTHING to do with my WLS, or my type of WLS. See my profile.

MsBatt
on 3/26/11 3:16 am
OUCH!!!

I got a sunburn between my boobs once---I was wearing a top with a deep V both front and back, and it was a cloudy day, so I didn't realize how much sun I was getting. For several days I had trouble sleeping, because I didn't have a side to lay on. Big blisters, too, but not as bad as yours.
vitalady
on 3/26/11 10:47 am - Puyallup, WA
RNY on 10/05/94
Well, at least you didn't do it ON PURPOSE.

Cooing my skin beyond all reason at 17 is prolly the only reason my own kids survived being 17. They usta look at us like they couldn't believe we could be so stupid and actually hold jobs. LOL

Anyone who has kids 16-18 knows that look. Like I said, 17, I knew all there was to know.

My mom would never have let me stay there since we were at my grandparents' house in NorCal. But they were all out shopping, and booze, drugs, boys were not a problem so leaving me home alone only risked the windows, since I seriously liked my Rock 'n Roll loud.

My mom grew up on the beaches of SoCal, so actually had some respect for the sun by the 1960's. Her BFF was a redhead with freckles and was obsessed with hiding removing them. They actually never bothered me. I mean, I never saw me without them, did I?

I also could not convert sun = freckles. So what? I had them anyway, as long as the fair underneath turned tan, why not? Yeah, well, NOW I know.

I avoided sun for most of my life after, as I said. EXCEPT rock n roll sounds even better in a convertible with the top down. Oops. Hands/face.

Michelle
RNY, distal, 10/5/94 

P.S.  My year + long absence has NOTHING to do with my WLS, or my type of WLS. See my profile.

ashleylove
on 3/22/11 9:09 am
I gave up on tanning but I still play out in the sun. I just lather up with Neutrogena Baby 50 proof.

True Fact: You can get herpes from tanning beds.
I love Chocolate
on 3/22/11 11:33 am - Labrador, Australia
 This was approximately 1 hour after surgery to remove pre-melanoma the size of a pin head, I hadn't even noticed it, but my skin specialist had (thank goodness). The second photo is 8 weeks later. 

My skin specialist told me that if you want sun exposure for vit D uncover your belly, in all the years he has been specialising in skin cancer, he has never seen one there (this is his opinion, not mine). So check with your Dr.

(deactivated member)
on 3/22/11 12:15 pm - San Jose, CA
Holy Moly!  Why did it require such extensive excavation for a pin-head of pre-melanoma?

It did heal really nicely after only 8 weeks - even smoothed the naso-labial fold just a bit!  I'll bet it is barely visible now.
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