Teenagers lose bone mass after WLS
Teenagers lose bone mass after WLS

Teenagers lose bone bass after roux en y gastric bypass surgery, but does it have a long term effect?
(Reuters Health) - Teenagers who undergo gastric-bypass weight-loss surgery lose bone in the 2 years following the procedure, a new study shows.
"The good news is they started out with bones that were far heavier than normal," said Dr. Thomas Inge, a researcher in the study and an associate professor of pediatrics and surgery at Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center.
"After that (bone) loss, they end up about normal for their age," he told Reuters Health.
The long-term effects of the bone loss - and whether it levels out -- are unknown.
Inge and his colleagues measured the bone density, or bone hardness, of 61 teens who underwent the most common form of gastric bypass surgery.
The procedure reduces the stomach to a small pouch and diverts food around part of the small intestine. Less food is absorbed and the individual feels full sooner, leading to weight loss.
Inge estimates that up to 2,000 gastric bypass surgeries are done each year in teens. More than 200,000 U.S. adults had the surgery in 2009.
Bone density contributes to the strength of the bones; and their density changes in response to body weight and to weight-bearing exercise. In general, as people age, their bones become less dense.
The researchers took bone scans of the teenagers every few months after the surgery for 2 years.
On average, each patient lost nearly 200 grams of bone (about seven ounces, or the weight of a large apple) by the end of the study. That equaled seven percent of their starting bone mass, they report in the journal Pediatrics.
"What was reassuring was (bone density) didn't fall below the normal range" for teenagers, Dr. Anne-Marie Kaulfers at the University of South Alabama, and another of the study's authors, told Reuters Health.
Inge said that the loss was expected.
"When you load the skeleton with higher loads, it responds with greater bone density," he said. As the load lightens after weight loss surgery, the bones respond by becoming lighter as well.
Studies in adults have found that bone loss stabilizes three years after weight loss surgery.
In adolescents, "we truly don't know what happens past two years," Kaulfers said.
Unlike data from adults, Kaulfers added, the teenagers' weight loss does not explain all of their bone loss.
Indeed, only 14 percent of the bone loss could be directly attributed to the individuals' weight change, the researchers found. The rest was due to unknown factors.
Inge speculates that vitamin D and calcium absorption-which are compromised after the surgery-might play a role. Hormones could be involved as well.
Adults and adolescents who have weight loss surgery are recommended to take calcium and vitamin D supplements afterward.
Dr. Robin Blackstone, the incoming president of the American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery, said she'd like to see longer term studies on bone health after surgery.
"We have to be careful to follow this," Blackstone, who was not involved in the study, told Reuters Health.
On the one hand, a decrease in bone hardness can increase the risk of fractures. On the other hand, the surgery might improve bone health.
"We know kids have orthopedic problems from the weight itself," Blackstone added.
The use of weight loss surgery in adolescents is controversial because there are few long-term studies of its effects years on.
Inge said his group intends to follow the patients for a total of 10 years.
"There is no data right now to say the risk of bone loss is greater than the risk of not doing the surgery," Dr. Mary Brandt, director of the adolescent bariatric surgery program at Texas Children's Hospital, told Reuters Health.
Brandt said that children who undergo weight loss surgery suffer from myriad weight-related health problems.
Among the teenagers in Inge's study, for instance, three out of 10 had high blood pressure, six out of 10 had sleeping problems, and one out of 10 had type-2 diabetes.
- SOURCE: bit.ly/i8XwTL, Pediatrics, online March 28, 2011.
The authors of this study are omitting very pertinent information. IMO, they might have a bias. Even if you're old and lose weight by dieting, whenever a person loses a significant amount of weight, they lose bone mass. Bone tissue adapts its density over time to so that it can bear differing amounts of weight. Most obese people have stronger bones than skinny folk. Once the weight is gone, there is no need for the extra bone tissue. It’s very similar to what happens with muscle when you stress it by lifting weights. It bulks up. If you quit, the muscles shrink back to the size needed to do every day tasks.
There probably aren't a whole lot of teenagers out there who have lost and maintained as successfully by other methods as those who have has WLS. Where is the authors' comparison group?
Well I am not a teen-ager, but since I recently had a bone mass test, and it concurs with your finding, you can add "30-somethings" to the data.
Ah, yes all the little unexpected "gifts" of wls. Your post about going to the dentist, was nearly replicated by yours truly a couple of months ago, when to my shock and horror ("you have great teeth, Christian" was all I've ever heard from my Dentists in the past) I had to have 2 mollars pulled due to calcium deficiency co-incident with bone mass LOSS (the only thing that had come out "a bit low" on the blood tests all along was "ferritin", calcium was "ship-shape" yeah right!)
Beth, what the heck are we going to do?
I know you are the poster child, but believe me, I am NOT happy with all the unexpected and unpredictable little (and humongous) crap that arrises w/o a clear "cause-effect" sign for us, long-term post-ops.
I'm just feeling extra...not good today, emotionally.
cyber-hugs to you. I pray we both... improve.
Christian
You know what? I am, right now, also getting a dose, of what you probably get a lot of...first time for me in freaking 8-9 years.
I wrote a really long post. Perhaps the most comprehensive one...not a single person has replied....Its all good.
I know YOU, BETH, get it. I am in good company, and so are you!
If I want adoring fans, I know where to go...I just wish... they were the same group.
:-) Yes, I thankfully, do still have a "good smile" never thought I'd be glad to have those mollars WAY in the back, that are/were NEVER seen. hee hee.
It's too long...I would not read it...it scares ME!
Its scary ****there are nights, when...I don't have anyone to call, a few "key people" know me, really, really know me. All of it. even the crap that my priest, and my lawyer doesn't know.
But they're successfull men (2 down from 3, because THE main one died 3 months ago) with thousands of employees, wives, children and even grand children. I am not going to effing call either one at 2:47 am to say: ....I don't even know what I'd say, I haven't made a phone call like that since....2004.
I really Should know better. But I really don't Beth **** my own freakin' psichiatrist can't figure out **** mental or physical! She teaches other Psych M.D.s!
And then, Because I don't have a "her" in my life, for once, Thank GOD! I don't even have THAT outlet or distraction. Hey, you be glad you've got the hubby and kids. My youngest just turned 18, is on the fast track for management and business school. And got his first BMW convertible....THAT HE PAID FOR WITH HIS OWN MONEY! I love that little guy.
He IS my son. At times, I wish, I had my **** together half as much as he does....and I'm the one who told him how to do it!!!
What is wrong with me? Its hilarious,absurd,scary all at once!
Its like, I feel like I should really be freaking out, but for whatever reason, I am not. Ya know?
I was sure I was having a heart attack. When they said Anxiety attack, I screamed at them, that I did NOT HAVE ANXIETY YOU IDIOT I HAVE ALL THE SYMPTOMPS OF A HEART ATTACK!
but they turned out to be correct, every cardiac test, etc, showed that i had NOT had any kind of physical attack. my mind was faking it....that scared me even MORE!
I had another one in 2008, and you'd think that having had the previous experience would have helped, but it did not, if anything, it helped to convince me, that "This one feels a lot more real than that other one"---enter the prescription medicine (intravenously, because I was refusing to have it administered orally---I was THAT convinsed, I was having a heart attack.
So, the freakin' pandora's box got opened and it has been an daily mental discipline of constantly, assessing reality from perception, but even the greatest philosophers of history had a field day with THAT one.
ugh! I don't even want to talk about it beth...it makes my spirit sad.