Why the 2% Mortality Rate that someone is quoting is wrong....

In this study, there was a 2% 30-day mortality rate...among the morbidly obese males over age 65.  And it was even higher for those who were 75 years old or older.


jama.ama-assn.org/content/294/15/1903.full


There are not a lot of MO people over 65 anyway...we die from the obesity.  For a very sick, MO person, age 65 or over, undergoing MAJOR surgery...yeah...the odds are worse.  But so are the odds of surviving much longer MO.


Sue

Hey where the hell have you been ?

Having crazy monkey sex.  You?

Oh...and boy genius decided to do a load of laundry including his new rodeo shirt AND carry bottle of bleach at the same time.  Guess who just orderd his SECOND new rodeo shirt!!!

PLEASE.....tell the genius I am LAUGHING MY ASS OFF.

Statistics are cool for populations.

when I was getting ready to have my surgery, I realized that those stats weren't for people EXACTLY LIKE ME.....and since they didn't do stats on people with my comorbids, my age, my weight, my issues, I was likely going to be okay

Now if one out of 50 CLONES of me died in an experimental run, the real me would avoid it!

facts! science! reason!

you GO, Sue 

What sort of gets me is that..... this RNYDisaster person.... is obviously not posting because they feel they were lied to about the mortality of RNY and because of it DIED or something.

FACT is...... every person who goes in to surgery, ANY surgery, faces a mortal peril. (I'm terrified of surgery) .....Some die.

The statistics behind WLS.... which I examined in DETAIL (the studies, not news organizations' spin on them) showed that the odds for ME, a 39 year old woman without heart problems, who had already survived multiple surgeries without getting dead...... the odds for ME were extremely GOOD....... probably closer to one death in ten thousand for people in my situation. Increased odds if you counted my selection of an extremely good surgeon.

Exactly!
Surgery is surgery! What are the mortality rates I wonder in Open  Heart bypass surgery? (Probably pretty high I would imagine) or what are the mortality rates in brain surgery?
WLS of any kind is not done for cosmetic reasons or "just because we want to"...It isn't plastic surgery to "look better" but it is a surgery the same as Open Heart Bypass to HEAL us of morbid obesity!

There can be complications with ANY surgery and that is why we as informed paitients must study ALL the risks and weigh them against what our current health problems are. I knew going in I could die on the table or of complications afterwards. But I was already dying, so it was a mute point. Thankfully and obviously I had the best possible outcome with little to no complications on my RNY.

But I also had a radical hysterectomy and lymph removal because I had ovarian cancer (then followed by radiation) and I knew, was TOLD by my surgeon that I only had a slight chance of beating it or surviving 5 years past... (Again, obviously I did. it's now been 15 years cancer free!).

My long winded point is that ANY surgery is done for a medical reason..Of course there are risks, and deaths...Why aren't we posting the risks and deaths for cardiac bypass surgery? What makes that any different from WLS?

Knowledge and being prepared mentally and physically is the key to any surgery. Any surgery should be well thought and truly needed.
Warmly,
Jackie

Jackie,

The problem here is that someone who either didn't read or didn't fully compehend a published study went along with the CBS News people who didn't read the whole thing, and came to a faulty conclusion.

It's as if he'd just read about the FIRST little pig and was warning everyone that building a house would not help protect you against the Big Bad Wolf.  He got some of the data correct, but didn't read the rest or didn't understand that the THIRD little pig had entirely different results.

Oh I know, I got that from his post as well....Loved the way you put it though!

Warmly,
Jackie