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Im so glad you are finding relief with the gluten free stuff..... Its so hard to make that change but it is one of the very little understood and misdiagnosed problem long term with malabsorptive procedures.... and you get so much relief....
Hard to say about losing/gaining..... Its always calories tho.... maybe with the summer you did more subconscious snacking? By the pool? at parties? BBQ's? Lots of people this time of year get so busy with the back to school, back to work, prepare for holidays that we are busier and dont snack or eat more...
When I moved here from the NJ shore I was so surprised about summer siesta.... lolol... but quickly understood why you just cant be as physical when 115 degress out.... Summer was when we lost weight and then gained back east..... opposite out here :)
Cant wait to see you
DARCIE LEIGH EDELKRAUT
LAP RNY 12/2000 -- Pre-Op: 314 lbs BMI 44
Current: 125 lbs BMI 19
www.tempenewday.com LAP-BAND Program Specialist
LOL! I think you must have a HUGE "text support" group out in the world! I know you have coached me via text a zillion times when I've had personal emergencies! ..... I'm eating gluten free and loving life thanks to you!
BTW....I found a GF bread here in South Dakota (visiting for a few days) that tastes great and satisifes my "wanter" for the occasional sammy. Udis! (a word you could say over and over and feel like you've really told someone off!) calories are still high at 80 per slice so I have to budget into my week....calories & carbs.
Question....Last year I lost a lot of weight in Nov, Dec & Jan ...wasn't trying...then gained over the summer. Now again....without trying...I'm losing weight big time. What's up with that? Does the chill just make me shake those little calories right out of my system?
Hugggzzz,
Joyce Rny 2/11/03-> ERny 12/26/07-> Duodenal Switch 5/12/2010
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Couple of things that may have gotten lost which I am going to put out there....
All of us who have sought out ObesityHelp.com pre-operatively did so because we wanted to seek out SUPPORT and information and make an informed decision that we felt was best for our individual health situation and lifestyle.
All of us who have continued to post on OH.com post-operatively during our weightloss did so because we wanted SUPPORT and to share our successes, concerns and mis-haps...and look for guidence to reach our goals....
All of us who have successfully maintained their weight-loss for a really long time - like 9 years - are here to offer SUPPORT and all of the help, guidance, tips, advice, tricks, myths, truths and information we can so that other patients can achieve weight-loss success to improve their health and life goals.
I am in the incredibly wonderful position of being able to take my passion for helping patients which I did unpaid as a volunteer in NJ for 4 1/2 years and out here in the Valley for 4 1/2 years and now actually have a job doing what I love !!! ... I have seen and helped thousands of patients over the years.
9 years? no weight gain? no revision? no second procedure? I do know what works and what doesn't and I am happy to help patients with that... Regardless of what procedure you had, WLS surgery is just the tool to help you make the lifestyle changes and choices to make the most of your surgery....
I love when I get a text message or email from one of my patients who just asks " Im at so-and-so restaurant - Should I order this or that?" I answer right away.... and love when I get another message a week later stating - thanks I lost 3 pounds this week....
No one can do this alone -- it takes learning, sharing and help!
This past weekend at training I met and became friends with a new mom who is working in the WLS field. She doesnt need WLS but she has 30 pounds of baby weight. She read my story and asked for help... So we looked at the breakfast... she guesstimated she had a lot of calories - about 600 -- We used my favorite free Iphone app and I helped her recall and recognize all the hidden calories she forgot to account for... Her breakfast was really 1200+ calories...
I assured her to never feel guilty about what you eat -- just be aware, acknowledge it and account for it so you can learn where little changes can add up to huge losses!!! We are now e-mail buddies and I am going to continue to help her learn and make those changes so she can achieve her personal weightloss and health goals...And I will truly be thrilled for each pound lost and her personal achievements.
This is what I plan to do with our SUPPORT GROUPS.... Real life, real changes and real support ....
Thanks!
DARCIE LEIGH EDELKRAUT
LAP RNY 12/2000 -- Pre-Op: 314 lbs BMI 44
Current: 125 lbs BMI 19
www.tempenewday.com LAP-BAND Program Specialist
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18823860?ordinalpos=1&ito ol=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_S ingleItemSupl.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=1&log$=relatedrevi ews&logdbfrom=pubmed
Am J Med. 2008 Oct;121(10):885-93.
Gastric banding or bypass? A systematic review comparing the two most popular bariatric procedures.
Tice JA, Karliner L, Walsh J, Petersen AJ, Feldman MD.
Division of General Internal Medicine, Department of Medicine, University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, CA 94143-1732, USA. [email protected]
Comment in:
OBJECTIVE: Bariatric surgical procedures have increased exponentially in the United States. Laparoscopic adjustable gastric banding is now promoted as a safer, potentially reversible and effective alternative to Roux-en-Y gastric bypass, the current standard of care. This study evaluated the balance of patient-oriented clinical outcomes for laparoscopic adjustable gastric banding and Roux-en-Y gastric bypass.
METHODS: The MEDLINE database (1966 to January 2007), Cochrane clinical trials database, Cochrane reviews database, and Database of Abstracts of Reviews of Effects were searched using the key terms gastroplasty, gastric bypass, laparoscopy, Swedish band, and gastric banding. Studies with at least 1 year of follow-up that directly compared laparoscopic adjustable gastric banding with Roux-en-Y gastric bypass were included. Resolution of obesity-related comorbidities, percentage of excess body weight loss, quality of life, perioperative complications, and long-term adverse events were the abstracted outcomes.
RESULTS: The search identified 14 comparative studies (1 randomized trial). Few studies reported outcomes beyond 1 year. Excess body weight loss at 1 year was consistently greater for Roux-en-Y gastric bypass than laparoscopic adjustable gastric banding (median difference, 26%; range, 19%-34%; P < .001). Resolution of comorbidities was greater after Roux-en-Y gastric bypass. In the highest-quality study, excess body weight loss was 76% with Roux-en-Y gastric bypass versus 48% with laparoscopic adjustable gastric banding, and diabetes resolved in 78% versus 50% of cases, respectively. Both operating room time and length of hospitalization were shorter for those undergoing laparoscopic adjustable gastric banding. Adverse events were inconsistently reported. Operative mortality was less than 0.5% for both procedures. Perioperative complications were more common with Roux-en-Y gastric bypass (9% vs 5%), whereas long-term reoperation rates were lower after Roux-en-Y gastric bypass (16% vs 24%). Patient satisfaction favored Roux-en-Y gastric bypass (P=.006).
CONCLUSION: Weight loss outcomes strongly favored Roux-en-Y gastric bypass over laparoscopic adjustable gastric banding. Patients treated with laparoscopic adjustable gastric banding had lower short-term morbidity than those treated with Roux-en-Y gastric bypass, but reoperation rates were higher among patients *****ceived laparoscopic adjustable gastric banding. Gastric bypass should remain the primary bariatric procedure used to treat obesity in the United States.
on 11/17/09 12:55 am - Tuvalu
His side-by-side charts are at odds with what the American Society of Bariatric and Metabolic Surgeons say is going on the world of wls.
Here's what they say about the DS:
The amount of excess weight loss after the BPD has been reported to be around 70 percent – with weight loss in some patients persisting up to 18 years.
And here's what they say about the Band:
Excess weight loss with the laparoscopic adjustable gastric band is lower than that with the gastric bypass or malabsorptive procedures, varying between 28% and 65% at 2 years and 54% at 5 years.
Simpson advertises that the results are all the same...60% So who is right...Simpson or EVERYBODY ELSE?
www.asbs.org/Newsite07/patients/resources/asbs_story.htm
Yes, I am going to be makaing me a doctors appointment today. Well, I am going to call them to make an appointment. To get a thorough check up
RNY Completed on 06/18/2007 The day I found myself again.
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on 11/17/09 12:08 am - Tuvalu
Then you cite a single paper - but not the multiple papers that are out there -- and use that as the sole basis for an argument- a paper that comes from a single source? Yet the whole of papers out there show that the lap-band is safer by a factor of ten- in all aspects?
Then you say I am likely getting kickbacks-- for which you accuse me of, but have no basis for? And yet you fail to note or discuss the many staples that are used are also "medical devices" and something for which device companies are paid. So if Ethicon or Covidian take a DS surgeon to dinner that is not bad, but if they take me to dinner that is bad? Did you know that the staple manufacturers get more for a DS than they do when they sell a band? But because you think one is better it is ok - and not ther other?
Then you say an office visit is less renumerative for one than the other-- although they are coded out the same? So if patients use office visits to learn, to change lifestyle, to have good results because it takes time to learn about any procedure and what it does-- if they do it for one that is ok, but not the other?
Then when a procedure fails - and someone revises it to another - you say that is wrong- but you refuse or simply ignore other data? It is ok to revise from one procedure to another as long as you think it is good?
Thank you for the assumption that surgeons do one procedure for money and the other for love - when you don't know reimbursement rates, motives- but because you like the procedure you had it must be good.
Your arguments are not based on the whole of the data - and your conclusions are based on a flawed belief that if data/surgeons do not believe in your belief they are wrong.
This is not religion- this is medicine- this is surgey.
If you think it is better to reoperate on someone for multiple hernias from the malnutrition of a DS, or bowel obstructions, or leaks than it is to operate on someone to reposition the band- or to take a band out -- you are simply wrong. You can be an evangelist for a procedure- but if you want to cite a small bit of literature and dismiss those of us who take the entire body of literature- admit it.
Here are the facts:
In all large studies across all literature-- the band is safer than other procedures.
The band does require education - as all procedures do- it does requre follow up visits-- as all procedures do-- and the band is adjustable - others are not without major intervention.
There is no trading malabsorption for obesity with the band.
Bad things can happen with any surgical procedure- and if you think a website is what I would use for informed consent then you are so wrong.
Glad you like your procedure- but to say it is better than a lap band is like saying a horse is better than a car because you don't need gasoline.
The band is not flawed, anymore than any weight loss operations are flawed. Patients have a problem of obesity- and this is the tool I seek to use. In our data-- outcomes (weight loss over three years or more) are equal -morbidity and mortality is less- and patient satisfaction is higher with the band than with DS.
"It is interesting how you accuse me of not supplying patient follow up on one hand and then accuse me of seeing patients too much for the band in another- a logical fallacy. If a patient comes in for a post operative visit - whether it be for a DS or a lap band - you consider it business if we charge for one but not the other? "
You know damned good and well what she means and it is NOT what you just asserted. DS patients with SUCCESSFUL surgeons are usually seen a week post-op, then a month post-op, then at three months, six months and a year...and then annually. Many of those SUCCESSFUL DS surgeons include the first year or two of follow-up in the price of the surgery. Ergo, I am four years post-op and have paid for ONE office visit and am about to pay for the second. How many office visits does your average band patient get charged for in four years?
You say you charge the same for a DS follow-up and a band follow-up? Really? My DS surgeon doesn't use barium swallows and fluoroscopy at my follow-up appointments, so there is no charge for those things. Do you just provide "blind adjustments?" Or are patients sent to some other location...and who profits from that? My band doctors charged the usual office visit fee...but there was also a facility fee for the radiology and a provider fee for the radiology services. You don't charge for those? How philanthropic.
You claim that "the lap-band is safer by a factor of ten- in all aspects?" No, not in ALL aspects. In fact, not in the ONE aspect that is going to make a difference to your patients...weight loss sufficient to resolve the morbid obesity that is killing them. A lot like buying a car...with great lumbar support in the seats and a super sound system...but that won't GO anywhere. That car and the band should both be covered under Lemon Laws.
You SHOULD know what a mess the band causes. I have an almost five-year old e-mail here from Heimpens...who thought I was joking when I asked if he had experience revising from the band to other procedures. He replied that fully 20% of his OR time--one day a week out of five--was spent removing LapBands. Surely by now the word would have made its way across the Atlantic.
And, before your fan base gets involved...I DO have business on the AZ board. Mom was born in Florence, Granddad in Casa Grande and there are still cousins there and lots of cousins in Mesa and Tempe. I have to view here once in a while so that I can tell them what kinds of lies they are being fed. It's a shame that there is so much to report.
Sue
It is interesting how you sidestep much of what I said, or make strawman arguments – not addressing the points I made, but rather answering a question different from the one I raised but which you prefer to discuss. You don’t even deny getting kickbacks, but change the conversation to whether DSers have staples – WTF?
Voluntary follow up for DSers is different from necessary follow up with bandsters to get adjustments. Your band patients HAVE to return to your office for repeated adjustments to their fills. I suspect your DSers just gave up coming for follow up appointments with you for some other reason having to do with your practice. I don’t believe PacLap has this problem to nearly the extent you experienced it, because they have a dedicated support system, including Rabkin (who attends MANY support group meetings himself every month, flying all over the west coast, as well as to Chicago and TX to do so), his staff and a loyal and committed patient support system. Why did this not happen in YOUR practice?
I’m not going to get into a battle of wits with you over your practice – I am interested in promoting FACTUAL information about the DS to pre-ops before they select which surgery they have, not specifically in beating down the lap band – there are plenty of others here who have personal experience with the band and who are fully able to make their own arguments against it. I personally think the lap band is a CRAP band, that restrictive-only surgeries in general are doomed to fail for a significant percentage if not a majority of morbidly obese patients, and that the VSG is a superior surgery to the CRAP band if one insists on a restrictive-only procedure (though I think it too is doomed to fail for most patients in the long run – but at least it can be easily revised to a DS).
My specific problem with YOU is your turnaround from your former DS practice to this, and the disinformation on your website.
I also think your statement that all of the surgeries work the same basic way is an out-and-out lie. Restrictive-only procedures work through caloric restriction – period. They are enforced diets, and they fail for the same reason that ALL diets fail – AND they will leave the patients worse off than they were before surgery when they do fail. The DS fixes the metabolic issues at the root of obesity, by correcting the metabolic damage caused by genetics and yo-yo dieting. And the 10 year stats that demonstrate 94% of DS patients are successful (having lost and maintained a loss of at least 50% of their excess weight – the standard used by most bariatric surgeons) is one that the lapband does not even remotely come close to. Your statement “outcomes (weight loss over three years or more) are equal -morbidity and mortality is less- and patient satisfaction is higher with the band than with DS." is simply laughably ridiculous. There is NO published study that I know of showing that weight loss over 3 years is equal between the lap band and the DS – that is PREPOSTEROUS. And I doubt you can prove the patient satisfaction statement either – certainly there are quite a few unsatisfied lap band customers/victims on this very thread.
As I said, I am most dismayed and personally disappointed in YOU. I met you in 2003, and you were a dedicated DS surgeon then. You even said if you needed bariatric surgery, you would have the DS. Now, it appears to me that you have sold out to the lap band franchise, performing an initially less risky but less effective surgery that requires less of your resources as a surgeon, and which likely provides you with a higher income. I thought you were one of the good guys – but I was wrong.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/barretts-esophagus/HQ00312
5' 5" - 317.5 / 132 / 134 SW / CW / GW
If they have that then they need to have their band evaluated - period.
I don't care if they have zero fluid in their band- it is too tight - or their band has slipped.
Reflux and night cough are NOT normal - and any respectable band surgeon will tell you that and will fix the problem asap.
Bands to not cause Barretts - that is congenital, and if someone told you otherwise they don't know what it is.
The band is a tool - if you have reflux, if you have night cough - there is an issue - and that needs to be evaluated period.
To your point- yes- if the band is too tight - too small a band is used, or the band slips- you will get reflux. If your surgeon does not understand that, and does not deal with it - there is no wonder they have problems.
Glad you were a model band patient - and did everything correct - but reflux with the band is a sign that there is something wrong and needs to be taken care of.