Male/Female privacy

Nope - you are not wrong at all - and every time I have tried to be friends with a biotch - i get burned - they come up with motives and plots and shiot - assume more meaning into my words or actions than what's there - don't wanna talk up front - blah blah blah

Too short had it right - biotches ain't SHIOT but hoes and tricks...... LOL!!!! 

Single mother of a son here...

When he was younger, I'd take him to the barber shop.  I, however, did not engage in the conversations unless someone spoke to me first.  The barber shop is kinda sacred to me... while it's not sacred FOR me, I certainly understand and respect the place it holds in the lives of our Black men.

Admittedly, I was glad when my son got old enough to go on his own.  He enjoys the space just as much as the others now.


(Can't comment on the beauty shop thing 'cause I hate beauty shops and avoid them at all costs.)

Yo, Double Oh...

Yeah we tend to kick it a little political, to raunchy at times, and then we'll switch it up to sports of course.  BTW - March Madness is the absolute WORST time for women to come into the barbershop with their son(s).  We straight up be acting like we're at a racetrack or a tent revival meeting or something with all the yelling at the TV that's going on it there.


 

Well I think it all has too do with the culture of the Barber shop/Beauty Salon.  I go to a barbershop all the time...since I am now sporting a very close fade.  My barber is very inclusive with his conversation.  We have a lot of healthy male/female debates up in there. But when the fellas want to go off on their own tangent...I just sit back and listen intently...and chuckle sometimes. No one feels intimidated at all.  I also have seen the same scenario in beauty salons...because there are men that come in to get their hair braided.  I think that this is part of the problem in our society...esp when it comes to male/female relations...some men don't want to listen to women because of this superiority complex that they have...as stated earlier...feeling intimidated when a woman tried to voice an opinion.  If the man or woman is comfortable with themselves...its not going to matter who's in the conversation or occupying  the same space with them.

BTW...did you hear about the woman that handcuffed herself to her man to get him to hold a conversation with her....now I do think that's taking things a little too far.  it should never have to come to that....

Check out the news article:

http://www.newstimes.com/ci_11983690?source=most_emailed

Now, Mahogny, I normally don't respond to folks who don't have me on their friends list but since I'm in a good mood (I saved a lot of money by switching to GEICO ) Imma let you slide this time.  But like the great poet and rapper Mystical once said, "Wahtch yah sef...!"

Gotta a question doe:  How come it's a superiority complex when men don't want to listen to women but when a woman don't want to listen to her man it's because, "he must think he my father or something..."?  Splain dat won, Lucy.

And as for the woman with the handcuffs...  Whuh deh bomba clot a gwine on ere?

 

Hey Hey Double Ayy!!!   I have had Geico for years and go laughing to the bank every month.  As a matter of fact I don't owe a payment for two months... Soooo I am gonna slide you a few sense (cents). Now...go back and reread my post...you will now notice that I threw in the very discrete disclaimer "Some men".  Not all men have this superiority issue but the ones that do create all kinds of havoc for both men and women...just don't think that no one has a clue and thus want to downplay anyone else's convo ...and therefore don't want to listen to nobody.  Now I bet if you go back and revisit that conversation in the barbershop...you "YoSelf" can pick out the men that I am talking about. I mean what was wrong with the Sista voicing her opinion. I am sure she is not in there 24/7 and a few minutes of conversation would not hurt anyone.  The even bigger issue is the fact that she was in there with her son...so I am assuming that she might be a single parent and thus serving as both father and mother for this young man.  Why does she have to sit there with her legs crossed and lips zipped.  She also need to be able to instill a sense of confidence in him..let him see her mom...roll with the punches.  I say kudos for her.   

For your second point in regards to a woman "not wanting to listen" to her man. I think you are referring to when a woman "does not want to do what her man says".... two entirely different things.  For the most part, I think most women are better listeners than men and there happens to be research out there to back this up. Actually, we as women need to be aware of this..because in some cases it will help us not take it so personally when men seem out of touch with what you are saying.  We need to be creative to get our points across...(tell ya later).  It should not take a woman handcuffing a man to the bed (as mentioned in my last post) to get a conversation.....unless that's his thing.     

All I am saying is that I think we need to have more healthy dialogue between men and women without one or the other feeling as if someone is infringing on their space.  That all goes back to the territory ....alpha dog issue.  At last I looked...had not one person...raised their leg and pee'd on the barber shop steps ....at least not the one I frequent.  

Ya'll get your space....at the games, at the sports bars, at the urinals (my bad...ya'll don't like talking there...unlike us..talking all between the stalls and stuff).

Sooooo please accept my apology...did not mean to infer that all men have a superiority complex.   Now..........do you still want to be my friend????  Ahhhyaaayahhh......wer ya go? 
  

Hey Hey Double Ayy!!!   

What it do, Shawty?!  What it look like?!

I have had Geico for years and go laughing to the bank every month.  As a matter of fact I don't owe a payment for two months... Soooo I am gonna slide you a few sense (cents). Now...go back and reread my post...

Whatchu talkin 'bout, 'Hogany?  Who's told you I's knows how's ta read?  Was it Harpo?

you will now notice that I threw in the very discrete disclaimer "Some men".  Not all men have this superiority issue but the ones that do create all kinds of havoc for both men and women...just don't think that no one has a clue and thus want to downplay anyone else's convo ...and therefore don't want to listen to nobody.  Now I bet if you go back and revisit that conversation in the barbershop...you "YoSelf" can pick out the men that I am talking about. 

Looking into my mind's eye....

"Oh my God...  You're right.  Wait a minute...  There's that Snickers bar that I was lookin for...  And there's Leroy, Pat, my Dawg - Brian, and Chuckie..."

I mean what was wrong with the Sista voicing her opinion. I am sure she is not in there 24/7 and a few minutes of conversation would not hurt anyone.  The even bigger issue is the fact that she was in there with her son...so I am assuming that she might be a single parent and thus serving as both father and mother for this young man.  Why does she have to sit there with her legs crossed and lips zipped. 

Cause if she sat with her legs open then she might've pulled a Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct and let us see her "Oh Lawd, Have Mercy..." by mistake and her son would've gotten a very different afterschool special lesson, "When Mommy called those men some Nasty Bastids..."

 She also need to be able to instill a sense of confidence in him..let him see her mom...roll with the punches.  I say kudos for her.   

See above.

For your second point in regards to a woman "not wanting to listen" to her man. I think you are referring to when a woman "does not want to do what her man says"....

No I had it right.  See, right there you weren't listening.  I rest my case.

"two entirely different things.  For the most part, I think most women are better listeners than men and there happens to be research out there to back this up."
 
Yeah, I agree.  Star Search should come back up.

Actually, we as women need to be aware of this..because in some cases it will help us not take it so personally when men seem out of touch with what you are saying.  We need to be creative to get our points across...(tell ya later).

Telling us we need to talk (always about some shid you feel we're doing wrong) ain't all that creative.  My mom used to say the same thing me, except she'd start the sentence off with, "Listen here, Gott-Dayum-mitt..."  See.  We've heard it all before.

  It should not take a woman handcuffing a man to the bed (as mentioned in my last post) to get a conversation.....unless that's his thing.     

Hey that's what I was thinking but I'm glad that you said it because I often get accused of being too sexual.  By the way...  Shaved or bushy like a tree in Africa?

All I am saying is that I think we need to have more healthy dialogue between men and women without one or the other feeling as if someone is infringing on their space.  That all goes back to the territory ....alpha dog issue.  At last I looked...had not one person...raised their leg and pee'd on the barber shop steps ....at least not the one I frequent."

You've obviously never been to mine then on a Friday night payweek after Malik closes up for the night.  We sometimes drink beer and pee wherever we feel it's necessary.  And don't let there be a bachelor party in the back.  Hell, I might pee in the corner just as the stripper is getting ready to come out from behind the curtain.  But I won't raise my leg though.      

Ya'll get your space....at the games, at the sports bars, at the urinals (my bad...ya'll don't like talking there...unlike us..talking all between the stalls and stuff).

True dat.  True dat.

  (((Group Hug)))  As Rodney King once said after he got the stuffing beat out of him, " Can't we all just get along. Take it easy...my friend...enjoyed the post.

BTW...did you hear about the woman that handcuffed herself to her man to get him to hold a conversation with her....now I do think that's taking things a little too far.  it should never have to come to that....


guuuuuuurl - why did i tell the bf yesterday afternoon simmering pots boil, talk.  we watchin tv and before the news comes on in the preview blurb we hear sue simmons say "wife handcuffs husband because he refuses to talk abou their problems"  then hear the 911 tape of him tryin to talk to popo in between sayin "OWWW!"  we looked at each other and fell the *^!* out!........then he said honey, what's on  your mind?   

 What a great one liner....That would have cracked me up!