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Boys of all races and especially minority children were dumped into this category far too often during the 70s & 80s. Lack of understanding regarding the simple differences in the genetic makeup of boys and girls caused many boys to be placed in this category. Further ignorance lumped large groups of minority children in predominantly white children into this same group.
High IQ has no indication of success later in life. I can speak personally, LOL. I am neither a Rocket Scientist nor a Nobel Peace prize winner but I have a large mental file of random facts that serve no purpose other than to provide amusement at parties and maybe one day on Jeopardy. My older brother is in the genius range and was playing the piano at 3 by ear--he's now a lineman for the railroad, barely graduating high school.
Tons of people historically were thought to be "retarded." Stephen Spielberg has Asperger's--which is in the Autism grouping and part of the Special Education spectrum. Would anyone consider this man retarded?
It is further speculated based on further research of Autism that Yeats, Beethoven, Mozart, Warhol, Van Gogh, Darwin, Einstein, and Thomas Jefferson all had undiagnosed autism...would you consider any of these people "retarded?"
My point through this lengthy tirade is that NO! I wouldn't base my dating someone at this stage of my life on what they were labeled as in high school. Isn't that the same as wanting to marry the high school prom queen in your 30s? Does it really f*cking matter at this point?
High IQ has no indication of success later in life. I can speak personally, LOL. I am neither a Rocket Scientist nor a Nobel Peace prize winner but I have a large mental file of random facts that serve no purpose other than to provide amusement at parties and maybe one day on Jeopardy. My older brother is in the genius range and was playing the piano at 3 by ear--he's now a lineman for the railroad, barely graduating high school.
Tons of people historically were thought to be "retarded." Stephen Spielberg has Asperger's--which is in the Autism grouping and part of the Special Education spectrum. Would anyone consider this man retarded?
It is further speculated based on further research of Autism that Yeats, Beethoven, Mozart, Warhol, Van Gogh, Darwin, Einstein, and Thomas Jefferson all had undiagnosed autism...would you consider any of these people "retarded?"
My point through this lengthy tirade is that NO! I wouldn't base my dating someone at this stage of my life on what they were labeled as in high school. Isn't that the same as wanting to marry the high school prom queen in your 30s? Does it really f*cking matter at this point?
Hey thanks, TAW.
I hear your points. You made several good ones by the way, but something about the label "retarded" seems to make some people think one thing and that one thing "ain't good" in my opinion. I believe it stigmatizes people and no matter how old they are it tends to keep stigmatizing them regardless of their accomplishments.
I hear your points. You made several good ones by the way, but something about the label "retarded" seems to make some people think one thing and that one thing "ain't good" in my opinion. I believe it stigmatizes people and no matter how old they are it tends to keep stigmatizing them regardless of their accomplishments.
This is such an interesting question, I just had to put in my two cents.
I would have made the same decision as your friend. However, I don't think it's right. If you didn't intuit that the person was somehow less intelligent through your conversations with them and your dealings, then the simple knowledge that he was labelled early on in life shouldn't affect your decision to be with them.
That being said, my intelligence and mental accuity is the thing I pride myself on, even when I was fat... it's my thing, you know? So I just couldn't do it if you aren't on the level. It sounds terrible, but c'est la vie.
-Angela
I would have made the same decision as your friend. However, I don't think it's right. If you didn't intuit that the person was somehow less intelligent through your conversations with them and your dealings, then the simple knowledge that he was labelled early on in life shouldn't affect your decision to be with them.
That being said, my intelligence and mental accuity is the thing I pride myself on, even when I was fat... it's my thing, you know? So I just couldn't do it if you aren't on the level. It sounds terrible, but c'est la vie.
-Angela

Accuity huh?

I respect your opinion that if she didn't pick up on it then it shouldn't have been a problem. However, how does one rate someone else's intellect on a date, especially someone like me, cause when I go out I have the type of conversation and loose morals of a dayum alley cat. Hell, I'll try to have s*x with ya up against the back of your building if you tell me your mom and your kids are still awake upstairs.
But I digress...
How do you rate intellect in such a short time.
1st of all some of the dumbest m*tha f*ckas I know have multiple degrees.
That said, IMO if any of her potential children are to be intellectually scarred it'll probably be from her gene pool. I think that was an unfounded and shallow decision.
I would continue to see him unless and until he showed signs of being "special" Children are often labeled, and medicated due to the ineptitude and rush to judgment from ignorant and under qualified school admins and shrinks.
That said, IMO if any of her potential children are to be intellectually scarred it'll probably be from her gene pool. I think that was an unfounded and shallow decision.
I would continue to see him unless and until he showed signs of being "special" Children are often labeled, and medicated due to the ineptitude and rush to judgment from ignorant and under qualified school admins and shrinks.
It is never too late to be what you might have been
~George Eliot