Random Thoughts: Black or White????

A fallacy is a misleading account....I never stated Africa was a COUNTRY.....Europe is also a CONTINENT....just as ASIA, NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA, AUSTRALIA (I think it is actually both--is that a fallacy), and ANTARTICA...do we need to name the hemispheres...oceans....seas?

(Did I miss something about premises and conclusions here?)

I'm sure EVERYONE learned AFRICA is a continent in grade school....we know all about Nigeria, Kenya, and other places....now about RACES....all I know about races is Shem, Ham, and Japeth...don't know **** about no Western asse culture.

However, I would be very interested in learning more about the cultures in Kenya and other areas....feel free to elaborate or PM me.

A fallacy is a misleading account....I never stated Africa was a COUNTRY...

Your Statement: I can understand and respect her point view; hence, I am one of those who view myself as a Black American by race...however, my nationality is African....I can understand native Africans not connecting with us (well me) because I do not connect with them.

A NATON  IS a Country. Now you can run on with the rest of your BS argument, I didn't mean to jump in the stupidity you are dropping with those "random thoughts."

Having studied linguistics, I understand how one can be tempted to take a root word and apply it to its derivatives. In this instance, the fallacy has been to use "nationality" in this function.

A nation is a country. The definition of "Nationality" has not been limited to land mass. It can encompass culture, tribal independence and language. DeeDee, feel even more obliged to maintain your African nationality.

Having married a white Arab from the BerBer tribe, I no longer call myself African American. I am too westernized. I am surely of African descent. After having lived with a man with parents from the villages of the mountainous regions of African, I know how African I am not.

Now...from the roaming to the random, DeeDee, I think the entire African slave trade and its disregard for the family unit has made many of us have strong feelings towards family, and not all good.
We love hard. We family hard. We marry hard. But I think, psychologically, we have learned, via slavery and its mental/economic impact,  love, family, marriage...can lead to loss. It does not have permanency. It does not have to exist in order for one to function. It does not even have financial value.
There was a time when another child was seen as a blessing or another hand to help the family economically. Today, we see it as a burden...another mouf' t' feed. I know I dont want no mo' chil'ren!

In many ways, Black families will stick together. On the same note, most know a relative that cannot come to the family cook out and bed not call yo Momma's house. Why? Cause for whatever reason, they have been kicked past the curb. We will cutt ya off.
We have been emotionally, psychologically and spiritually ripped away from the familial roots we learned from our nationality.
At some point, we have to relearn it so we can reuse it.

God willing.

Just my thoughts....

~missing you~

Can you NOT debate without being a ~cough~ Imma debate yo asse on double coupon day so I can get a real VALUE ~is that a fallacy....I mean BARGAIN~

Are you a miserable person, a bored person, or just plain plum dumb?

~I'll take plum dumb for free Alex~

Very true, there were key Caucasian figures in the midst of African and African American events. 

However, from my experience, most of my learning WAS from the European perspective.  From Edgar Allen Poe to Christopher Columbus to Rene Descarte to Sigmund Freud....they're interjected in every subject.

 In order for us to learn about us, we had to take additional elective classes in African literature, history, etc in school IF it was even offered.  So, in essence, many of us feel that we've had enough of the European perspective.

I have a rainbow of friends and I have a genuine interest in visiting a variety  of places and learning about all types of cultures.

LAWD, the water down Souf is fertilized....all my folks PG or got somebody PG....I see a baby ticker in your signature line!

Congrats to you ~achoooo~

Now bout that....yep! I teach my kids Black history RET NOW! I read negro spirituals and all to them....

I am responsible for them learning their history cos we know the school system will not teach it to them!

I try to learn about black as well as European culture.  I have been to some down right depressing places and some absolutely beautiful ones, and sad to say the most depressing places are mostly those where the black folks live.  Not just black people, but all brown skin people of the world.

But that still does not stop me from learning and visiting places it is predominatly black,  because I learn so much more from them.

Hey Les ~smooches~

I would love to travel, but BAYBEEE....me and planes don't mix

Dedee,

I actually missed your random thoughts, babe. 

Let me address some of your thoughts--just my humble opinions. 

We actually DO learn about Europeans.  American/World history is inundated with all things White and / or European--as they say, history is written by the victors.  

As for Whites going to Africa, most of the reason for them going there, historically, was in an effort to gain a foothold in there for the purposes of colonization / gaining access to the natural resources/human resources there. 

While some abolitionists looked as slavery for the evil it was, many saw it from a purely labor-intensive standpoint...free labor was taking away jobs from White wage earners. Remember, while many were against slavery, they were still not prone to seeing Black as equals.  Had "The Great Emancipator" Lincoln had his way, we would have all be whisked off back to Africa post-Civil War to "eliminate the Black problem". 

Interesting that you should mention Ms. Bridges.  My daughter actually met her a few years ago..she was part of a Black History Month celebration at my baby's school that year.  Ms. Bridges was good enough to autograph a children's book my daughter had about her life as a child being integrated into that school.  My daughter still has the book. :) 

In terms of hanging onto marriage, I think that my sisters are kinda disappointed in many of my brothers.  While many of us WANT to step up and do the right thing in terms of getting married and raising a family, there is that very loud, very VOCAL few guys (not men) who engage in the b/s that perpetuate the myth that more of us are boys playing at being men than there actually are.  Thus, I think, the disappointment and the fear of dealing with/taking a chance on someone who may actually be sincere in his feelings for fear he may be fraudulent with his word and / or actions. 

Again, just my humble opinion.  :)