PLEASE READ FROM DEE URGENT!!!
I want to respond to everyone who has tried to help me with my problems.
Thank you! I have taking your suggestions about the gas and bloating having much less carbs, working real hard with no white flour, pasta, rice, and I am getting better Thank You. My DR ,DR Marchesini from Brazil says if I tried everything he said and my bad breath does not get better then it is from my revision surgery a RNY to a DS then I need to reverse the surgery. Never!! Thats why I sounded so desperate to get your help. I know the Lord will see me through this and I will find an answer. I hope in the future I can continue to get help from many wonderful people on this board who took the time to help me. God Bless you all, Dee
Thank you! I have taking your suggestions about the gas and bloating having much less carbs, working real hard with no white flour, pasta, rice, and I am getting better Thank You. My DR ,DR Marchesini from Brazil says if I tried everything he said and my bad breath does not get better then it is from my revision surgery a RNY to a DS then I need to reverse the surgery. Never!! Thats why I sounded so desperate to get your help. I know the Lord will see me through this and I will find an answer. I hope in the future I can continue to get help from many wonderful people on this board who took the time to help me. God Bless you all, Dee
~ I am the proud wife of a Guatemalan, but most people call me Kimberley
Highest Known Weight = 370# / 59.7 bmi @ 5'6"
Current Weight = 168# / 26.4 bmi : fluctuates 5# either way @ 5'7" / more than 90% EWL
Normal BMI (24.9) = 159#: would have to compromise my muscle mass to get here without plastics, so this is not a goal.
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So the bad breath, bloating, and odor troubles came from the high carbs? Just wondering what you did that worked if I ever find myself in the same predicament.
~Shani~
I've been pudgy, chubby, thick, and now fat........Imma give thin a go round!!!
SW-262, size 18W, 5'6"
CW-168 1/15/2010
GW-162
94 Lbs down...6 more to go...changed goal to see Onderland for a hot second!
Nope. Those symptoms came from her spewing bull**** time and time again. 
YOU don't do that, Star, so no worries!
Just look at her history of "latest posts" and it will tell the tale of a person "desperate" for help, but unwilling to accept help for months on end. If you asked her a legitimate question or offered advice even by a kind PM, you were ignored or told that was not the problem.
If she's not a troll, she's altogether something more frightening...a hopelessly non-compliant DS patient who thinks she's a victim.
But lo and behold--MAGIC! The suggestions people gave her every month for 7 months (call surgeon, do low-carb, quit white flour, experiment with diet) suddenly are tried and she is healthy! It's a miracle.
Just when you thought the season of miracles was over, a new one slips in!
Nicolle
YOU don't do that, Star, so no worries!
Just look at her history of "latest posts" and it will tell the tale of a person "desperate" for help, but unwilling to accept help for months on end. If you asked her a legitimate question or offered advice even by a kind PM, you were ignored or told that was not the problem.
If she's not a troll, she's altogether something more frightening...a hopelessly non-compliant DS patient who thinks she's a victim.
But lo and behold--MAGIC! The suggestions people gave her every month for 7 months (call surgeon, do low-carb, quit white flour, experiment with diet) suddenly are tried and she is healthy! It's a miracle.
Just when you thought the season of miracles was over, a new one slips in!
Nicolle
I had the kick-butt duodenal switch (DS)!
HW: 344 lbs CW: 150 lbs
Type 2 diabetes and sleep apnea GONE!
Ooooh I had seen a few posts but didn't know the extent. I have started being a DS snob, I usually only go to my friend's posts or people that are familiar to me. But then I started thinking....uh if people did that to you then you wouldn't have all the freinds you do now.
How soon we forget where we came from!!!
How soon we forget where we came from!!!
~Shani~
I've been pudgy, chubby, thick, and now fat........Imma give thin a go round!!!
SW-262, size 18W, 5'6"
CW-168 1/15/2010
GW-162
94 Lbs down...6 more to go...changed goal to see Onderland for a hot second!
I haven't been here for awhile. I am reading what you have written and the other members. There are a few things I would like to provide my input, in regards to what you wrote. No info of your journey, no info of your post-op life, no info of your previsous history or even how you found the DS to be your selective choice for revision.
taking your suggestions about the gas and bloating having much less carbs, working real hard with no white flour, pasta, rice, and I am getting better Thank You
Good to see you have taking advice from the DS veterans and post-op regarding this and understanding that excessive carb intake may cause gas and bloatiness to you. It is a matter of elimination to know what is going on and what can be ruled out. I am not sure when you had your DS or what is your common channel, but white flour, pasta, rice and certain carbs do affect certain individuals of WLS (not only DS). I had issues with pain with white flour, dry pasta and even bread when I was 3 months out, then tried again at 4 months, then at 5 and at month 6, was able to eat such and not feel pain. Had some gas when I tested it out, so I waited until I was until I was 6 months post-op to eat these. Rice was never a problem for me, have been eating it (but very small amount) since I was 14 days post-op. The first year, it is all about taste testing to see how your body reacts to it. The first year is a time of a lot of trial and error and even challenging times that you will get to learn about your body system.
My DR ,DR Marchesini from Brazil says if I tried everything he said and my bad breath does not get better then it is from my revision surgery a RNY to a DS then I need to reverse the surgery.
I find it extremely odd that such an high experienced DS surgeon would recommend a reversal to you due to halitosis and gas issues. You do not have any complication that is jeopardizing your health. I do not see anything that your health or life is being compromised that you need a reversal, Before a reversal or even a revision of your DS be perfrom to lengthen it, there are certain test that needs to be done to verifiy that your life is endangered. What you are stating between gas, bloating and bad breath is not medically considered a situation for a DS surgeon to say you will need your DS reversed. A DS surgeon will talk about lengthen your common channel, not reverse your switch.
What you are having is considered a matter of user error. I had very severe food intolerance and could hardly eat anything without throwing it up or negative side affect, very similar to dumping syndrome. My surgeon NEVER recommended a reversal or revision to me, as yours is recommending to you. My surgeon closely monitored me, had a MRI scan to make sure I had no kink, twist or other things wrong with my intestines. A lot of things were ruled out. It all came out to my intestines were very sensitive and taking longer than the average DSer to heal. After 11 months being post-op, I no longer had any issues with eating food. I am now over 2 years out and with the exception of my first 11 months post-op due to food intolerance, have never once had a complicated issues that is considered life threatening or trauma to my health. I honestly do not see any urgency with your condition.
I believe almost all of us had surger because of not being able to control how much we ate or what we ate. No, no magic just very difficult for me to restrict my carbs you know the addiction they can have.
You are making assumptions here. Not almost all of us had surgery due to being unable to control how much we ate or what we ate. This is pure speculation. I weighed 105 lbs since high school until I was 23. Throughout my 20s, I weighed on average 125 lbs and 130s during my 30s. I was never obese or overweight for most of my life. I began to have gain weight after I was 36 years old, due to a medical condition with my digestive system and became SMO. You may talk about your personal experience, but it doesn't mean everyone falls into the mainstream you do. With the DS, you don't not need to restrict your carbs. You just have to learn to focus more on your protein first and once you have your protein, you are able to have your carbs. Early out, I live on 60-80g of carbs daily. My carbs were not low and I still lost weight. If you have issues that you want carbs and only carbs, I would recommend you post to the food thread here and let the DSer here help guide and advise you with your dietary lifestyle.
The gas and bloating pain was so bad I did not have a choice anymore so I had the willpower to take most of it out of my diet and I am better not perfect ,but better still have bad breath most days.
I want to recommend you see a peridontist, endodontist or dentist to be sure you do not have other underlying condition that is not even DS related as you are thinking. They can help you out there and maybe you have dental issues that may also give out halitosis and carry some breath mints, use mouthwash more frequently and check you dental hygiene, especially brushing your teeth after you eat. I am saying this as a recommendation. Also, there is the condition of ketosis in which occurs with various WLS postops of different surgery whether restrictive or malabsorptive. You were a previous RnYer and should know about this and not be something new or surprising to you.
I wi**** was that simple for me I had no dental problems,it is coming from my digestion track.
What did the peridodontist actually say or recommend? Was any particular mouthwash prescribed or other regime? The dentist would explained to you about bad breath and leading cause of bad breath is bacteria that starts and comes from the mouth, not coming from your digestion tract.
Yes I really has a DS on June 26 2008
OK, so you are 6 months post-op and had a DS revision with Dr. Marchesini . Although, you signed on as a member to OH 1 month after you had your DS surgery with Dr. Marchesini. Just find it odd you listed Dr. Swain who is a bariatric surgeon in Arizona, as your surgeon on your profile and not your DS surgeon. Also odd, you had surgery on June 26, 2008 and posted a thread 41 days later on Aug 3rd, that you are eating 175g of protein? That is amazing you are able to intake that amount of protein and just shy being 1 month post-op.
I am having a very hard time staying away from carbs, but I am doing it. I thought i could ask people for their help, and some very kind and wonderful people have helped me. It was hard for me to apply. I have not lied about anything.
You are 6 months post-op and do not need to stay away from carbs per say. You having the RnY know about moderation and being newly post-op, I find it odd how you are intake so many protein or what carbs are you actually taking? It is mental and you may need therapy to help you with your addiction. If you are able to, try to sort out your meals according to your needs that are protein first and do drink your fluids. I think it would be helpful for you to post to the food thread to see what it is that you are actually eating per day and being 6 months post-op, especially what is the amount of food and what do you actually drink for your fluid intake daily as well.
Yes they were from starchy carbs the gas and bloating that is, They are not gone competely but much better. I still have bad breath but I have bought so many internal deodirizors sorry for my bad spelling that my breath is 1 day ok and the next really bad I am on a journey ,a mission I will eventually get it all worked out .
Seriously, get to a peridondontist and either make an appt with a gasterologist who specializes in the DS or since you live in Illnois, contact Dr. Alvery or Prachand to have a post-op consultation with them and do explain your symptoms and issues with them.
taking your suggestions about the gas and bloating having much less carbs, working real hard with no white flour, pasta, rice, and I am getting better Thank You
Good to see you have taking advice from the DS veterans and post-op regarding this and understanding that excessive carb intake may cause gas and bloatiness to you. It is a matter of elimination to know what is going on and what can be ruled out. I am not sure when you had your DS or what is your common channel, but white flour, pasta, rice and certain carbs do affect certain individuals of WLS (not only DS). I had issues with pain with white flour, dry pasta and even bread when I was 3 months out, then tried again at 4 months, then at 5 and at month 6, was able to eat such and not feel pain. Had some gas when I tested it out, so I waited until I was until I was 6 months post-op to eat these. Rice was never a problem for me, have been eating it (but very small amount) since I was 14 days post-op. The first year, it is all about taste testing to see how your body reacts to it. The first year is a time of a lot of trial and error and even challenging times that you will get to learn about your body system.
My DR ,DR Marchesini from Brazil says if I tried everything he said and my bad breath does not get better then it is from my revision surgery a RNY to a DS then I need to reverse the surgery.
I find it extremely odd that such an high experienced DS surgeon would recommend a reversal to you due to halitosis and gas issues. You do not have any complication that is jeopardizing your health. I do not see anything that your health or life is being compromised that you need a reversal, Before a reversal or even a revision of your DS be perfrom to lengthen it, there are certain test that needs to be done to verifiy that your life is endangered. What you are stating between gas, bloating and bad breath is not medically considered a situation for a DS surgeon to say you will need your DS reversed. A DS surgeon will talk about lengthen your common channel, not reverse your switch.
What you are having is considered a matter of user error. I had very severe food intolerance and could hardly eat anything without throwing it up or negative side affect, very similar to dumping syndrome. My surgeon NEVER recommended a reversal or revision to me, as yours is recommending to you. My surgeon closely monitored me, had a MRI scan to make sure I had no kink, twist or other things wrong with my intestines. A lot of things were ruled out. It all came out to my intestines were very sensitive and taking longer than the average DSer to heal. After 11 months being post-op, I no longer had any issues with eating food. I am now over 2 years out and with the exception of my first 11 months post-op due to food intolerance, have never once had a complicated issues that is considered life threatening or trauma to my health. I honestly do not see any urgency with your condition.
I believe almost all of us had surger because of not being able to control how much we ate or what we ate. No, no magic just very difficult for me to restrict my carbs you know the addiction they can have.
You are making assumptions here. Not almost all of us had surgery due to being unable to control how much we ate or what we ate. This is pure speculation. I weighed 105 lbs since high school until I was 23. Throughout my 20s, I weighed on average 125 lbs and 130s during my 30s. I was never obese or overweight for most of my life. I began to have gain weight after I was 36 years old, due to a medical condition with my digestive system and became SMO. You may talk about your personal experience, but it doesn't mean everyone falls into the mainstream you do. With the DS, you don't not need to restrict your carbs. You just have to learn to focus more on your protein first and once you have your protein, you are able to have your carbs. Early out, I live on 60-80g of carbs daily. My carbs were not low and I still lost weight. If you have issues that you want carbs and only carbs, I would recommend you post to the food thread here and let the DSer here help guide and advise you with your dietary lifestyle.
The gas and bloating pain was so bad I did not have a choice anymore so I had the willpower to take most of it out of my diet and I am better not perfect ,but better still have bad breath most days.
I want to recommend you see a peridontist, endodontist or dentist to be sure you do not have other underlying condition that is not even DS related as you are thinking. They can help you out there and maybe you have dental issues that may also give out halitosis and carry some breath mints, use mouthwash more frequently and check you dental hygiene, especially brushing your teeth after you eat. I am saying this as a recommendation. Also, there is the condition of ketosis in which occurs with various WLS postops of different surgery whether restrictive or malabsorptive. You were a previous RnYer and should know about this and not be something new or surprising to you.
I wi**** was that simple for me I had no dental problems,it is coming from my digestion track.
What did the peridodontist actually say or recommend? Was any particular mouthwash prescribed or other regime? The dentist would explained to you about bad breath and leading cause of bad breath is bacteria that starts and comes from the mouth, not coming from your digestion tract.
Yes I really has a DS on June 26 2008
OK, so you are 6 months post-op and had a DS revision with Dr. Marchesini . Although, you signed on as a member to OH 1 month after you had your DS surgery with Dr. Marchesini. Just find it odd you listed Dr. Swain who is a bariatric surgeon in Arizona, as your surgeon on your profile and not your DS surgeon. Also odd, you had surgery on June 26, 2008 and posted a thread 41 days later on Aug 3rd, that you are eating 175g of protein? That is amazing you are able to intake that amount of protein and just shy being 1 month post-op.
I am having a very hard time staying away from carbs, but I am doing it. I thought i could ask people for their help, and some very kind and wonderful people have helped me. It was hard for me to apply. I have not lied about anything.
You are 6 months post-op and do not need to stay away from carbs per say. You having the RnY know about moderation and being newly post-op, I find it odd how you are intake so many protein or what carbs are you actually taking? It is mental and you may need therapy to help you with your addiction. If you are able to, try to sort out your meals according to your needs that are protein first and do drink your fluids. I think it would be helpful for you to post to the food thread to see what it is that you are actually eating per day and being 6 months post-op, especially what is the amount of food and what do you actually drink for your fluid intake daily as well.
Yes they were from starchy carbs the gas and bloating that is, They are not gone competely but much better. I still have bad breath but I have bought so many internal deodirizors sorry for my bad spelling that my breath is 1 day ok and the next really bad I am on a journey ,a mission I will eventually get it all worked out .
Seriously, get to a peridondontist and either make an appt with a gasterologist who specializes in the DS or since you live in Illnois, contact Dr. Alvery or Prachand to have a post-op consultation with them and do explain your symptoms and issues with them.
BMI = 23.7 3+ yrs post-op
stomach = 3.5 oz, common channel = 125 cm
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