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Topic: RE: ROLL CALL!! Halloween mini-challenge round 10/13/08




The Many Faces of WLS

Highest Weight: 394 lbs.
Surgery Weight: 285 lbs.
HALLOWEEN Challange starting weight- 223 lbs.
HALLOWEEN GOAL Weight: 215 lbs
Last week- 214 lbs (below Halloween Goal)
THIS WEEK- 211 lbs. (!)
I can SMELL ONEderland!
12 more pounds until I get my new tattoo!
Surgery Weight: 285 lbs.
HALLOWEEN Challange starting weight- 223 lbs.
HALLOWEEN GOAL Weight: 215 lbs
Last week- 214 lbs (below Halloween Goal)
THIS WEEK- 211 lbs. (!)
I can SMELL ONEderland!
12 more pounds until I get my new tattoo!





The Many Faces of WLS

Topic: RE: Daily Post 10/8
foobear on OH. He reposted a post about weight stalls, why they happen and what to do, that finally made me relax about not losing as fast as I thought I should AND got my weight dropping again.
http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/rny/a,messageboard/action,replies/board_id,5465/cat_id,5065/topic_id,3750033/
It's well worth reading!
---jan---
A "stall" at this point is inevitable, and here is why.
Our bodies use glycogen for short term energy storage. Glycogen is not very soluble,
but it is stored in our muscles for quick energy -- one pound of glycogen requires 4
lbs of water to keep it soluble, and the average glycogen storage capacity is about 2
lbs. So, when you are not getting in enough food, your body turns first to stored
glycogen, which is easy to break down for energy. And when you use up 2 lbs of
glycogen, you also lose 8 lbs of water that was used to store it -- voila -- the "easy"
10 lbs that most people lose in the first week of a diet.
As you stay in caloric deficit, however, your body starts to realize that this is not a
short term problem. You start mobilizing fat from your adipose tissue and burning fat
for energy. But your body also realizes that fat can't be used for short bursts of
energy -- like, to outrun a sabertooth tiger. So, it starts converting some of the fat
into glycogen, and rebuilding the glycogen stores. And as it puts back the 2 lbs of
glycogen into the muscle, 8 lbs of water has to be stored with it to keep it soluble.
So, even though you might still be LOSING energy content to your body, your weight will
not go down or you might even GAIN for a while as you retain water to dissolve the
glycogen that is being reformed and stored.
When your body begins to mobilize fat, it has to convert that much of that fat into
glycogen (think of glycogen as a kind of "animal starch" which can be rapidly converted
into glucose which is then burned for energy.) But for every pound of fat converted
into glycogen, your body has to hold on to 4 pounds of water. That's why you can
appear to maintain (or even gain) weight during a stall, even though you're still
losing inches: the fat is disappearing, but is replaced by glycogen and a lot of water
weight. Eventually, once the glycogen is burned up, all the water ends up being
flushed out by the kidneys. This explains why many people's weight loss looks like
this: lose a lot of weight, gain a few pounds (!!!!), stall for several weeks, then
drop 5-10 pounds in the space of a few days!
Also, if you indulge in eating too many carbohydrates (especially if you've already
been eating fairly low carb already), your body immediately converts these carbs into
glycogen and holds on to 4 times that amount of water. This explains why "cheating"
can suddenly lead to a gain of several pounds overnight. It's all water weight.
It's always a good idea to keep a food and exercise diary just in case the stall might
be due to eating the wrong foods, or the wrong amount, or too little exercise. The
diary will help you track your daily intake. Many people use thedailyplate.com or
fitday.com to help with this.
If you're not doing anything wrong, as evidenced by your diary, I don't think there's a
whole lot you can do, other than to be patient. You're a recent enough post-op that
your weight loss should resume soon!
http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/rny/a,messageboard/action,replies/board_id,5465/cat_id,5065/topic_id,3750033/
It's well worth reading!
---jan---
A "stall" at this point is inevitable, and here is why.
Our bodies use glycogen for short term energy storage. Glycogen is not very soluble,
but it is stored in our muscles for quick energy -- one pound of glycogen requires 4
lbs of water to keep it soluble, and the average glycogen storage capacity is about 2
lbs. So, when you are not getting in enough food, your body turns first to stored
glycogen, which is easy to break down for energy. And when you use up 2 lbs of
glycogen, you also lose 8 lbs of water that was used to store it -- voila -- the "easy"
10 lbs that most people lose in the first week of a diet.
As you stay in caloric deficit, however, your body starts to realize that this is not a
short term problem. You start mobilizing fat from your adipose tissue and burning fat
for energy. But your body also realizes that fat can't be used for short bursts of
energy -- like, to outrun a sabertooth tiger. So, it starts converting some of the fat
into glycogen, and rebuilding the glycogen stores. And as it puts back the 2 lbs of
glycogen into the muscle, 8 lbs of water has to be stored with it to keep it soluble.
So, even though you might still be LOSING energy content to your body, your weight will
not go down or you might even GAIN for a while as you retain water to dissolve the
glycogen that is being reformed and stored.
When your body begins to mobilize fat, it has to convert that much of that fat into
glycogen (think of glycogen as a kind of "animal starch" which can be rapidly converted
into glucose which is then burned for energy.) But for every pound of fat converted
into glycogen, your body has to hold on to 4 pounds of water. That's why you can
appear to maintain (or even gain) weight during a stall, even though you're still
losing inches: the fat is disappearing, but is replaced by glycogen and a lot of water
weight. Eventually, once the glycogen is burned up, all the water ends up being
flushed out by the kidneys. This explains why many people's weight loss looks like
this: lose a lot of weight, gain a few pounds (!!!!), stall for several weeks, then
drop 5-10 pounds in the space of a few days!
Also, if you indulge in eating too many carbohydrates (especially if you've already
been eating fairly low carb already), your body immediately converts these carbs into
glycogen and holds on to 4 times that amount of water. This explains why "cheating"
can suddenly lead to a gain of several pounds overnight. It's all water weight.
It's always a good idea to keep a food and exercise diary just in case the stall might
be due to eating the wrong foods, or the wrong amount, or too little exercise. The
diary will help you track your daily intake. Many people use thedailyplate.com or
fitday.com to help with this.
If you're not doing anything wrong, as evidenced by your diary, I don't think there's a
whole lot you can do, other than to be patient. You're a recent enough post-op that
your weight loss should resume soon!
Topic: RE: post for 10.11
Hi Debi!
My blood glucose is 83. no more diabetes issues.
My CPAP is 3 notches lower. (Still hoping for it to be gone altogether)
I fit into a kayak! That's a huge improvement.
My legs don't swell like they used to, only minorly and occasionally.
Good topic!
---jan---
My blood glucose is 83. no more diabetes issues.
My CPAP is 3 notches lower. (Still hoping for it to be gone altogether)
I fit into a kayak! That's a huge improvement.
My legs don't swell like they used to, only minorly and occasionally.
Good topic!
---jan---
Topic: RE: ROLL CALL!! Halloween mini-challenge round 10/13/08
Heaviest 03/19/08: 517
Challenge start 09/13/08: 482
Current 10/13/08: 459
Goal 10/31/08: 465
Topic: post for 10.11
What is something that you expected to improve after surgery, that did? And what is something that you never expected to improve, that did?
I expected my diabetes to get better, and it went away completely! I never knew how much my self esteem would improve, how much happier and content I would be.
I expected my diabetes to get better, and it went away completely! I never knew how much my self esteem would improve, how much happier and content I would be.
Topic: RE: Daily Post 10/8
My friend, who had the surgery 4 years before me, told me to start following the rules long before surgery, which made it so much easier to not drink during meals, focus on protein, etc.
Topic: RE: ROLL CALL! Halloween round of mini-challenge--10/6/08
I DID IT!!! I DID IT!!!!
HW 260
SW 252
CW 225
GW 135
I made the goal, I think that I will put a new goal of another 5 pounds 220 by Halloween.
HW 260
SW 252
CW 225
GW 135
I made the goal, I think that I will put a new goal of another 5 pounds 220 by Halloween.
Topic: RE: ROLL CALL! Halloween round of mini-challenge--10/6/08
Well...I am back up to 227 today. Horror of horrors...I know part of it is "that time o' the month" - but for sure the other part is my stressin' over my daughters 4 year old b-day party on Saturday...I have so many kids coming...one of those bounce houses...and I just generally stress out over this sort of thing...I have been doing a lot of crock pot cookin this week and I would usually just eat the meat and veggies...but have strayed to eating it over the noodles too. Making bad choices...stress...and getting my period are a bad combo for weight loss. But I own it...its my gain and I WILL lose it. Lor
Topic: RE: Daily Post 10/8
I would have to say teh best advice given to me was: follow the doctor's orders. If he/she says to take extra supplements by all means DO IT. Add the extra protein & cut down on the carb intake.