Why not just lie to the psychiatrist?

wlscand09
on 9/29/08 10:37 am - Tickfaw, LA
 This is basically an offshoot of the post below. But why would you tell the psychiatrist you have eating issues when you know they will deny you and make you go through therapy before you get the surgery? I just lied to my psychiatrist basically and he gave me the greenlight immediately. I know these people are smart, but you can work them to your advantage if you're smart about it. Just lie, it saves trouble in the long run. And then after your surgery when you're losing tons of weight if you need therapy then you can go get it. 
Boner
on 9/29/08 10:49 am - South of Boulder, CO
Shrinks can tell if you're not being truthful, whether you think so or not. Kind of like Santa Claus, Lance.

In many states, being a pathological liar is immediate grounds for WLS denial. Given your admission, I'm reporting you to your shrink who will have your WLS reversed immediately.

Boner
wlscand09
on 9/29/08 11:00 am - Tickfaw, LA
 Well mine either didn't care or didn't know is all I'm saying. He was asking me family questions though, like I'm gonna tell this perfect stranger all about my family. But when he said why did I want to have the surgery I was just like because I want to lose weight. He agreed it was good for me and that was that.
snicklefritz
on 9/29/08 11:42 am - Cincinnati, OH
Probably didn't care. I really think they knew but still igured you met the criterion dude. I was lucky. My ins didn't require one. I don't know i I could pass one now

henrywb
on 9/29/08 12:04 pm - Pottstown, PA
I've done several of these evaluations (I'm a clinical social worker).  No one would be denied for having issues with food.  If that were the case no one would ever be approved.  You don't get that over weight without having problems with food.  The evaluation is to find out  (1) if you understand what you are getting yourself into, and (2) if you have some severe mental illness that would make it difficult to cooperate with the surgery and the life afterwards.  

http://www.asbs.org/html/pdf/PsychPreSurgicalAssessment.pdf

The above are the suggested guidelines the surgeons that do bariatric surgery.
    
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bullyanky
on 9/29/08 1:02 pm - Woodstock, IL

You lied??? Honestly,,, I have to say that wont work for me I am so transparent I wouldn't get away with it.............. 
Ive never been to see a psychiatrist before.. But, I would think that one who deals with obese people would already assume that the reason we are here is because we lost control over food..... I would hope that the objective for the psych.. is to find out weather or not your expectations are realistic enough to cope with the realities of life post op..
My plan is to put it all out on the table. Im just worried that he'll tell me Im nuts,,,, Period... I mean just telling him that I work as a CSR for a major shipping co and have worked in theater as a stand up comic.. and done improve theater might be enough.

 

wlscand09
on 9/29/08 1:10 pm - Tickfaw, LA
 Yeah basically I did. I left out bits here and there haha. Just fed him what he wanted to hear.
bullyanky
on 9/29/08 1:35 pm - Woodstock, IL

Okay,,,,,,,,,,,,,, omitting is different then lying. I dont think Im going to tell him about my High School Prom date either and I might skip a few other details.  But, for the most part,, I plan on telling everyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyything he wants to know.

Batwingsman
on 9/29/08 2:28 pm, edited 9/29/08 2:28 pm - Garland, TX
  Well, first off, if they give you a certain written test, there are cetain parts of it that determine the validity of your responses, meaning if you are being deceptive you will get caught (theoretically) ..  

  Secondly, I don't know that a psych would "flunk" a pre-op necessarily b/c they do have an "eating issue" alone . . I mean, who of us does not ingest more calories than we need for life sustenance as a pre-op?   If we didn't, we wouldn't have been fat, right?   

  It is my understanding that what the tests determine is whether you have unrealistic expectations as to what the surgery will do for your life, and some such matters .. 

Frank talk about the DS / "All I ever wanted to be was thin, like that Rolling Stones dude ... "

HW/461 LW/251 GW/189 CW/274 (yep, a DS semi-failure - it happens :-( )

(deactivated member)
on 9/29/08 10:53 pm - Houston, TX
Hello my Skinny friend...

you know, when I read the boards, and sit in support group meetings...the people that need to hae their head shrunk, ...they can't hide it....and they are the one's that did not have a shrink eval....

Example...

Ok, I had my surgery in April, so I figure I'll be at goal weight by December or January...just in time to go to Aspen..there with my new body, I know I can meet a guy...When he sees me in a bikini in the next May, he will pop the question...and we will have a Christmas Wedding...and I will be preggers 2 years from now...because I have always wanted a child, something that I own, something that would love only me...

Now I have come to this group..because i'm behind schedule...Oh and does anyone want to go to the Mexican food buffet after the meeting???

(Oh and remember preacher Bob...his shrink gave him hell....)

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