Marriage

Batwingsman
on 11/30/08 6:22 pm - Garland, TX
 Actually, this thread is bringing up another burning related question I've had for a long time ... and have wanted to address to those a bit more spiritually-connected than I am ..   So here it is:

  Do you think God intends - or as some say, "it's in His plan" for - some people to stay single (i.e alone) during their life?   (other than priests, monks and nuns, I guess) ..    

  Maybe they're not "suitable" for relationsihips, or to have or raise a family, or something .. 

Frank talk about the DS / "All I ever wanted to be was thin, like that Rolling Stones dude ... "

HW/461 LW/251 GW/189 CW/274 (yep, a DS semi-failure - it happens :-( )

dlamp
on 11/30/08 10:02 am - Ildeyld Park, OR
I have been with my wife for  21 years this coming January. We have been through our up's and downs. I credit her with everything she is the most loving accepting person I have ever known. the longer I am with her the more I love her. Meeting her and having our three kids is the best thing to ever happen to me. So if I could go back it would be to kick my own ass to become a better person sooner.

Thanks Lance,

Derrick
wlscand09
on 11/30/08 10:09 am - Tickfaw, LA
 I'm 21 (soon-to-be 22) 
Batwingsman
on 11/30/08 6:24 pm, edited 11/30/08 6:25 pm - Garland, TX
  Geez, to be 21 again   ::sigh::   This time I'd live life just the opposite that I have in the past  ..  Be a womanizer and go for all I could get this time ..  I wonder how I would have turned out if I had ..

  As Tom T. Hall sang (a very wise man, btw):    I'd probably be drivin' kids to school .. 

  (or broke, paying alimony and child support    &:-D)   )

Frank talk about the DS / "All I ever wanted to be was thin, like that Rolling Stones dude ... "

HW/461 LW/251 GW/189 CW/274 (yep, a DS semi-failure - it happens :-( )

scott54
on 12/2/08 11:27 am - McKenna, WA
RNY on 09/24/08 with
Just for the record, I didn't get married until I was 27 - that also was a good thing.

Scott
(deactivated member)
on 11/30/08 10:48 am - Houston, TX
Dear Brother Lance...

 I will tell you the same as I tell any 21 year old...you have plenty of time to think about this..

nothing to do with the WLS...just age...you are going to change, she is going to change...

in his day and age...21 is too young for all most anyone...

but this is also what I say..to anyone in  a relationship..and I'll use an expression that I hate..

"BE A MAN ABOUT IT"

if you want to test the waters...you make the break ahead of time...not after you are interested in someone else...

take a little time on you own...then date..

here is my reasoning...if you meet someone first...your current lady, with always think...she stole him from me...

and your new lady with always think...he left her for me...so what is to keep him from doing the same thing...

If you do this right..and be a stand up guy...you will never burn a bridge..you may be able to keep a friend...and you may if you decide to return to the original relationship...

Relationships are the hardest thing that you will ever do...think about it dude...you have 2 peoplein one space...that is tough...but when it happens ...it's sweet...
JFish
on 11/30/08 10:53 am - Crane, TX
26 years on the 27th of next month. I'm kinda frustrated with mine right now cause she's totally lost interest in intamacy and I haven't. She's a friggin' genius at avoiding me.  I think it's human nature to assume that there's some greener grass out there somewhere, and I'm damned sure wondering what some of the local divorcees might offer a fellow, but like NotDave discussed on here several months back, I don't see myself pulling the trigger. I don't need the complications. Outside of that one frustration though (which is major), I'd say that marriage has been worth it to me. She's ultimately my best friend and she's been a great mother to my two fabulous daughters.

I'll say this: If you're gonna bring children in to this world, you owe it to them to marry their mama and help raise them. Just sending money ain't it. Not even close. The statistics regarding the differences in various outcomes between children from single parent and double parent homes are staggering. There's no way to avoid the clear conclusions.
The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking....... If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog.
NotDave (Howyadoin?)
on 12/1/08 5:28 am - Japan
On November 30, 2008 at 6:53 PM Pacific Time, JFish wrote:
26 years on the 27th of next month. I'm kinda frustrated with mine right now cause she's totally lost interest in intamacy and I haven't. She's a friggin' genius at avoiding me.  I think it's human nature to assume that there's some greener grass out there somewhere, and I'm damned sure wondering what some of the local divorcees might offer a fellow, but like NotDave discussed on here several months back, I don't see myself pulling the trigger. I don't need the complications. Outside of that one frustration though (which is major), I'd say that marriage has been worth it to me. She's ultimately my best friend and she's been a great mother to my two fabulous daughters.

I'll say this: If you're gonna bring children in to this world, you owe it to them to marry their mama and help raise them. Just sending money ain't it. Not even close. The statistics regarding the differences in various outcomes between children from single parent and double parent homes are staggering. There's no way to avoid the clear conclusions.
 JFish,  What does your wife say about the issue of intimacy? Sounds like on the one hand you've got a really good situation, but maybe she's physically tired, or your timing doesn't match or something. My experience in the past with marriage councelors has been that they are great at getting to and solving the cause of it all. Might be something to consider. If you're "friends" that can continue under any set of cir****tances.  Maybe it's time to "reconstruct" or "redefine." I know also that there are people out there who are totally satisfied just with "being in" a family without having any intimacy with their spose. If that's the case, I'm not sure how you'd work it out.

 

JFish
on 12/1/08 11:05 pm - Crane, TX
What does she say? "Yes I want you, but not right now." Like all women, it's the body language that speaks the loudest. There's always an obstacle. Always a barrier. Always an alibi.

Don't want to turn this in to a *****ing thread, just trying to give young Lance a heads up on the marriage thing. Overall I've loved being married and being a father, but don't assume that the gravy train runs at the speed you would choose.
The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking....... If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog.
wlscand09
on 12/2/08 2:16 pm - Tickfaw, LA
 That's why they make Fleshlights of which I own 2....I'm not worried about the sexual stuff haha. 
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