Let's share our stats!!!
Gents,
Most likely the people who are inclined to be active in these forums are not representative of the general population of people who undergo bariatric surgery.
Still I think if we could compile some statistics about how people here are doing after the surgery that would be very interesting. As far as I know, this website doesn’t share the aggregate statistics of its members – please let me know if I’m wrong.
I suggest we post the following:
Weight at surgery date: (in lbs)
Estimated excess weight: (in lbs)
Weight loss 1 month after surgery: (in lbs and % of excess weight)
Weight loss 2 months after surgery: (in lbs and % of excess weight)
Weight loss 3 months after surgery: (in lbs and % of excess weight)
Weight loss 6 months after surgery: (in lbs and % of excess weight)
Weight loss 1 year after surgery: (in lbs and % of excess weight)
If enough people post here, I promise to run some numbers and share the results with all!
I’m only 3 weeks out, so don’t have much to share:
Weight at surgery date: 348 lbs
Estimated excess weight: 158 lbs
Weight loss 1 month after surgery: 23 lbs (actually 3 weeks after surgeryt)
Weight loss 2 months after surgery:
Weight loss 3 months after surgery:
Weight loss 6 months after surgery:
Weight loss 1 year after surgery:
Personally, I'm several years post-op and these statistics are meaningless to me. They may be of interest to newbies, but since I have never seen them in such detail, I tend to think that isn't so. I know several men do take part in the Sunday weekly weigh-ins. I post then even though I usually get weighed on Thurs.
I think the problem with your stats is that it inevitably invites comparing one person's loss to another's. That's not good because we begin at different starting points in weight, physical condition, and age. Each of these tend to have an affect on the stats you are speaking about. For example, someone like me who starts out supermorbidly obese may lose a large amount of weight right from the beginning. Someone who is morbidly obese-say around 280 or so but has several comorbidities- may start out slower but soon be able to do more exercise and continue at a steady pace.
I know that when I started out in 2000, I had a mentor (so to speak) who was the exception. He did everything right but had slow weight loss in his first 6 mos post-op. But, he then lost a lot of weight in the following 12 months,
I fear that looking at the weight loss and percentages that you seek may discourage some of the men. I'm sure that there are other men who post here who totally disagree with me. That's why it's good that we have a forum where we can openly discuss this. You may want to keep a ticker on your posts and update your profile regularly to reflect these stats. Bob
I think the problem with your stats is that it inevitably invites comparing one person's loss to another's. That's not good because we begin at different starting points in weight, physical condition, and age. Each of these tend to have an affect on the stats you are speaking about. For example, someone like me who starts out supermorbidly obese may lose a large amount of weight right from the beginning. Someone who is morbidly obese-say around 280 or so but has several comorbidities- may start out slower but soon be able to do more exercise and continue at a steady pace.
I know that when I started out in 2000, I had a mentor (so to speak) who was the exception. He did everything right but had slow weight loss in his first 6 mos post-op. But, he then lost a lot of weight in the following 12 months,
I fear that looking at the weight loss and percentages that you seek may discourage some of the men. I'm sure that there are other men who post here who totally disagree with me. That's why it's good that we have a forum where we can openly discuss this. You may want to keep a ticker on your posts and update your profile regularly to reflect these stats. Bob
sjbob, I'am with u on this.I dont weigh until the monthly Doc's visit. Each person responds to their program differently. Creating weekly loss expectations leads to dissapointments. I posted in my profile that I wanted to reach a 35" waist. At 5'9" I can weigh 20lbs over my ideal weight and FEEL GOOD about how I look and act.. Still over weight but with good muscle mass and medium shirts is all I want
I personally like seeing the comparisons. I wish I had all the info you asked for. I remember doing it when it was happening. I'll have to go and see if I can find my weight charts.
For me it adds a bit of accountability. I also motivate on competition, so it gives me one more thing to aid in keeping me inline with what I am supposed to be doing.
I like to see what other people have done, and I want to cheer them on.
Yeah some times it can be a bit depressing or overwhelming when you aren't doing what all the others are, but perhaps you should use it as a chance for some perspective.
I know that seeing the success of people on this board certainly played a role in helping me to get to my weight goal.
I think that a lot of that muscle weighs more than fat, you might not be losing pounds but you are losing inches stuff is a lot of bull**** used by people to make themselves feel better about not achieving the goals that they have. Yeah muscle weighs more than fat, but are you honestly putting on lean muscle weight or are you just not modifying your diet enough. Have you not gotten off your arse and exercised like you should. To me it smacks of the self affirmation I'm a good person and people like me crap. It's o.k. you ate chocolate cate and ice cream, you are a good person. Yeah you are a good person but you F'd up, square yourself away and get back on plan. There are lots of things I can eat that I shouldn't, and I'm sure that some of that almost kept me from reaching my goal weight.
I recently posted complaining about not accomplishing the exercise goals I had, not running marathons yet etc. Well you know what I determined, it was my fault. I hadn't put in the effort necessary to accomplish those goals. They aren't just going to happen for me without the effort.
Here is what I was able to find so far: These are appox as all dates were not on the 1 month dates exactly, but are within a couple days:
Starting weight 441
Weight on surgery day 331
1 month 289
2 months 268
3 months 256
6 months 221
1 year 188 Goal weight
I hope you get enough data to share. I'd like to see how it went on average for those that responded. It would be interesting to see if the majority of people experienced stalls at the same time, or major losses at the same point in time. I'm sure there is probably a big variety as each person is different, but it might be fun to look at it.
Scott
For me it adds a bit of accountability. I also motivate on competition, so it gives me one more thing to aid in keeping me inline with what I am supposed to be doing.
I like to see what other people have done, and I want to cheer them on.
Yeah some times it can be a bit depressing or overwhelming when you aren't doing what all the others are, but perhaps you should use it as a chance for some perspective.
I know that seeing the success of people on this board certainly played a role in helping me to get to my weight goal.
I think that a lot of that muscle weighs more than fat, you might not be losing pounds but you are losing inches stuff is a lot of bull**** used by people to make themselves feel better about not achieving the goals that they have. Yeah muscle weighs more than fat, but are you honestly putting on lean muscle weight or are you just not modifying your diet enough. Have you not gotten off your arse and exercised like you should. To me it smacks of the self affirmation I'm a good person and people like me crap. It's o.k. you ate chocolate cate and ice cream, you are a good person. Yeah you are a good person but you F'd up, square yourself away and get back on plan. There are lots of things I can eat that I shouldn't, and I'm sure that some of that almost kept me from reaching my goal weight.
I recently posted complaining about not accomplishing the exercise goals I had, not running marathons yet etc. Well you know what I determined, it was my fault. I hadn't put in the effort necessary to accomplish those goals. They aren't just going to happen for me without the effort.
Here is what I was able to find so far: These are appox as all dates were not on the 1 month dates exactly, but are within a couple days:
Starting weight 441
Weight on surgery day 331
1 month 289
2 months 268
3 months 256
6 months 221
1 year 188 Goal weight
I hope you get enough data to share. I'd like to see how it went on average for those that responded. It would be interesting to see if the majority of people experienced stalls at the same time, or major losses at the same point in time. I'm sure there is probably a big variety as each person is different, but it might be fun to look at it.
Scott
The first time you do something - It's going to be a personal record!
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on 3/25/09 10:11 pm, edited 3/25/09 10:13 pm - MN
on 3/25/09 10:11 pm, edited 3/25/09 10:13 pm - MN
Keep in mind, I had LAP BAND:
Weight at surgery date: (in lbs) - 320 lbs.
Estimated excess weight: (in lbs) - 125 lbs.
Weight loss 1 month after surgery: (in lbs and % of excess) - 26 lbs. (20.8%)
Weight loss 2 months after surgery: (in lbs and % of excess) - 31 lbs. (24.8%)
Weight loss 3 months after surgery: (in lbs and % of excess) - 40 lbs. (32.0%)
Weight loss 6 months after surgery: (in lbs and % of excess) - 60 lbs. (48.0%)
Weight loss 1 year after surgery: (in lbs and % of excess) - 80 lbs. (64.0%)
Weight at surgery date: (in lbs) - 320 lbs.
Estimated excess weight: (in lbs) - 125 lbs.
Weight loss 1 month after surgery: (in lbs and % of excess) - 26 lbs. (20.8%)
Weight loss 2 months after surgery: (in lbs and % of excess) - 31 lbs. (24.8%)
Weight loss 3 months after surgery: (in lbs and % of excess) - 40 lbs. (32.0%)
Weight loss 6 months after surgery: (in lbs and % of excess) - 60 lbs. (48.0%)
Weight loss 1 year after surgery: (in lbs and % of excess) - 80 lbs. (64.0%)
I also believe this is a bad idea. The people that are ultra competitive could harm their bodies trying to be the best, and the people that lose at a slower rate do not need one more kick in the shorts to discourage them.
Tell us your milestones and we will congratulate you. Ask for a kick in the shorts and we will be here for that too. You need not compare your WLS ride to anyone else's, because all of our rides are a miracle.
Tell us your milestones and we will congratulate you. Ask for a kick in the shorts and we will be here for that too. You need not compare your WLS ride to anyone else's, because all of our rides are a miracle.
Robert
I have mixed feelings about this post but I know some people are simply interested in stats, sort of like sports. Some people enjoy watching the game and others enjoy knowing every single statistic, play by play, pitch by pitch, error by error. I am the guy that enjoys watching the game as a whole and could care less how good or bad the person playing has been doing. I just enjoy the watching game.
That being said I have never kept track of anything in my life but I decided to keep rather detailed information about my weight loss journey for a number of reasons.
One note to my weight loss, I have been fairly diligent throughout. I stopped drinking soda, anything with caffeine, chocolate, most carbs, etc... a month or two before surgery. I eat fish/shrimp/seafood 5-6 meals a week and I drink nothing bu****er, decaf/unsweetened tea and coffee, walmart brand Crystal Light, and I eat meat the other meals with nothing else most of the time. I figure if I am going to do this I will do it right, something I haven't ever done in my life.
As a man I lose weight faster than women, we men just do plus I was very large. I asked my surgeon why he wanted me at 250 when I am only 5'6" because that would place me as obese still. He did a bodpod to check my lean body mass/fat ratio. They normally do this preop, 6 months and a year but they couldn't shut the door preop. I had it done in January and I have 176lbs of lean body mass, which I guess is everything but fat and hair. So I have stopped looking at BMI and started calculating my body fat based on 176lbs of LBM (lean body mass).
According to my calculations I had 394lbs of body fat. Now I have 202 lbs of body fat. Surgeon wants me at 250lbs, that means if I do not have any changes in LBM I should be at 29%, which seemed odd for me but the surgeon said I would have an extra 25-30 lbs of skin. If I subtract the skin from the figures I would weigh 220-225 and be at 20-21%, which is within the healthy range even though I would still be considered obese with a BMI of like 40. I took my height 66 inches, plugged in my LBM and I was overweight so that crap they give you at most doctors offices is worthless.
DATE WT/LBS BMI BODY FAT
10/16/08 570 92 69% (day I got out of the hospital)
10/24/08 525 84.7
10/28/08 503 81.2
10/31/08 499 80.5
11/14/08 489 78.9
11/20/08 483 78
11/24/08 480 77.5
12/03/08 477 77
12/08/08 471 76
12/09/08 469 75.7
12/15/08 463 74.7
12/30/08 453 73.1
01/14/09 440 71
01/26/09 430 69.4
02/02/09 425 68.6
02/10/09 420 67.8
02/13/09 411 66.4
02/23/09 403 65
02/26/09 399 64.4
03/07/09 392 63.3
03/20/09 378 61 53%
Hope you get something out of these figures.
-Jaime
That being said I have never kept track of anything in my life but I decided to keep rather detailed information about my weight loss journey for a number of reasons.
One note to my weight loss, I have been fairly diligent throughout. I stopped drinking soda, anything with caffeine, chocolate, most carbs, etc... a month or two before surgery. I eat fish/shrimp/seafood 5-6 meals a week and I drink nothing bu****er, decaf/unsweetened tea and coffee, walmart brand Crystal Light, and I eat meat the other meals with nothing else most of the time. I figure if I am going to do this I will do it right, something I haven't ever done in my life.
As a man I lose weight faster than women, we men just do plus I was very large. I asked my surgeon why he wanted me at 250 when I am only 5'6" because that would place me as obese still. He did a bodpod to check my lean body mass/fat ratio. They normally do this preop, 6 months and a year but they couldn't shut the door preop. I had it done in January and I have 176lbs of lean body mass, which I guess is everything but fat and hair. So I have stopped looking at BMI and started calculating my body fat based on 176lbs of LBM (lean body mass).
According to my calculations I had 394lbs of body fat. Now I have 202 lbs of body fat. Surgeon wants me at 250lbs, that means if I do not have any changes in LBM I should be at 29%, which seemed odd for me but the surgeon said I would have an extra 25-30 lbs of skin. If I subtract the skin from the figures I would weigh 220-225 and be at 20-21%, which is within the healthy range even though I would still be considered obese with a BMI of like 40. I took my height 66 inches, plugged in my LBM and I was overweight so that crap they give you at most doctors offices is worthless.
DATE WT/LBS BMI BODY FAT
10/16/08 570 92 69% (day I got out of the hospital)
10/24/08 525 84.7
10/28/08 503 81.2
10/31/08 499 80.5
11/14/08 489 78.9
11/20/08 483 78
11/24/08 480 77.5
12/03/08 477 77
12/08/08 471 76
12/09/08 469 75.7
12/15/08 463 74.7
12/30/08 453 73.1
01/14/09 440 71
01/26/09 430 69.4
02/02/09 425 68.6
02/10/09 420 67.8
02/13/09 411 66.4
02/23/09 403 65
02/26/09 399 64.4
03/07/09 392 63.3
03/20/09 378 61 53%
Hope you get something out of these figures.
-Jaime
Jaime, I started out at 571 in July 2000 and I'm only now down to 366 so I'm pleased and amazed at your weight loss in less than 6 months. If you've read my posts, you know that I've had problems primarily because of my food addiction and my mental problems. I'm now in remission from the food addiction and I'm now losing at a steady rate.
Keep up the good work. Just looking at your stats, I can tell that you are accepting the fact that you are slowling down with your weight loss. However, the important thing is that you are still losing. Since you are now almost 6 months post op, your weight loss is expected to slow down. There are a few men on here who started at weights near yours who were even able to get below 300 with effort and exercise. You can get there if you want to, but it will take you time. We lose quickly because of the WLS but we can continue to lose after that if we carefully follow a diet, get sufficient exercise, and have proper fluid intake. You seem to be well on your way to being a fine example for other super morbidly obese men. Bob
Keep up the good work. Just looking at your stats, I can tell that you are accepting the fact that you are slowling down with your weight loss. However, the important thing is that you are still losing. Since you are now almost 6 months post op, your weight loss is expected to slow down. There are a few men on here who started at weights near yours who were even able to get below 300 with effort and exercise. You can get there if you want to, but it will take you time. We lose quickly because of the WLS but we can continue to lose after that if we carefully follow a diet, get sufficient exercise, and have proper fluid intake. You seem to be well on your way to being a fine example for other super morbidly obese men. Bob
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