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Topic: RE: issues- need opinions/advise
Gala gave you some very wise advise. Let me offer my two cents for whatever they are worth.
You say you are an inactive member of the church but you seem to have held to the church ideals. Pray about this decision and if you can, fast about this decision. I prayed and fasted about the decision to have this surgery and received a very firm and postitive answer that for me this surgery was the right thing to do.
I'm 44 years old and have been fat my whole life. I've been seeing my PCP about my weight for years. Fen Phen worked wonders but when I stopped it the weight came back on. I've worked through many other diets, all of which were successfull on a temporary basis. The weight always came back on and I always gained even more weight then when I started the diet. My PCP finally told me that he was no longer going to subscribe anything for me because the yo-yo dieting was worse for my health than being fat. I asked my PCP about gastric by-pass surgery and he whole heartedly endorsed it for me. I sought a second opinion through my neurologist (I have MS) and my nerologist said he didn't advise having gastric by-pass surgery for very many people but this was my only option and he endorsed it fully. He said that gastric by-pass surgery was my only option to lose the weight on a more permanent basis.
Yes, our bodies are our temples but I was a food addict. I was abusing my body with food. Since I've had my surgery my whole thought process has changed. I used to live to eat. Now I eat to live. A flip-flop of how I lived my life pre-surgery. I'm healthier now, I can now keep the word of wisdom more fully (moderation in all we do). I felt that being obese was breaking the word of wisdom in one of the worst sense.
You may not have any co-morbidities now but they are coming. When our bodies carry around that much extra weight we are doing damage we don't even know about until it's almost too late to reverse or much harder to reverse.
Pray about this decision. Yes death can occur. Death usually occurs when there are other co-morbity problems. Rarely does death occur when someone is healthy. If you are truely worried about death than work to get your life in order and be prepared to meet your maker. Death isn't that bad. It reminds me of something Ryan White's mother told him years ago (Ryan White was the young man who was a hemophylliac). His mother told him that when he was in the womb before he was born he was so comfortable there. He didn't want to leave that space where he was so comfortable and warm to go someplace unknown. When he was finally born and saw that there was light and things weren't just dark all the time. He saw that there was room and there was color and he could move around. If someone had asked him if he wanted to go back into his mother's womb and stay there after experiencing life he wouldn't want to go back to that dark cramped space. Death is like that. We're afraid of the unknown. Just like a baby is afraid of leaving their comfort zone for that scary place called life, we're afraid to leave our comfort space in the place we call earth to go to an unknown place called heaven. But when we get there and see how wonderful it is we'll wonder why we never wanted to go and we wouldn't want to go back to that place we called earth.
My surgery was 9 months ago. It's the best thing I've ever done. I've lost 105 pounds so far and hope to lose another 25-30 pounds.
Come back often. We're here to help you if you would like.
Melody
Topic: Merry Christmas Everyone!!
Good Afternoon,
Just wanted to take few moments to wish each of you a Very MERRY Christmas. It our hope and prayer that where ever you are in the WLS journey you will find peace and comfort this holiday season.
We are truely blessed for the blessings our Heavenly Father has put into our lives. This last year has been filled with many changes for my family. Each one regardless of how we feel for our own good.
I met my first big goal this week. I am -100+ lbs. What a great feeling it was to see the scale say "204 lbs". WOW. I really did make it this far. And I have another 30-50 to go to my "ultimate" goals. One of my other goals was to be under 200 lbs by the end of this year. I have 1 more week. And am sure by the time I step on the plane on Jan. 1 for our ALL EXPENSE PAID vacation to the La Costa Spa in San Diego I WILL be under 200 lbs.
As many of you know my dh and I both had surgery this summer. James in June and I followed 3 weeks later in July. James had his 6 mo. appt this week. He is 5 lbs away from his surgeon's goal of 185 lbs.
My journey hasn't been a bed of rosey red roses as most of you know. Given what I have been threw and continue to go threw I would still do it all over again. Just yesterday I had someone from the WI board email me privately who is contemplating having WLS. Wanting to know if I would do it all over again, was I glad that I decided to have surgery ect ect. And my answer to her was yes. I shared w/her some personal struggles that are not on my profile nor have I posted on any of the boards. Told her what I would have done differently as a pre-op going into this journey to help in preventing having the same struggles.
Our plates may be full and it may be hard to see threw all the turmoil, confusion, and trials that lay before us. Regardless of what is in front of you right now - The true meaning of Christmas is before us. I am so very greatful for the sacrifices our Father in Heaven has made for each of us. So that we can have the free agency to live on this wondeful continent.
My the Lord Bless each of you in your travels this weekend.
Love in Him,
Gala
Topic: RE: issues- need opinions/advise
First of all I want to commend you for coming to the LDS forum. This is the first step into many in a healthier life.
As far as your first question. I went threw a spurt of "what happens if I die. I have 3 young children..ect ect ect". Then I would put it into another perspective "At 305 lbs, 30 yrs old. No 'real' significant health problems YET...I'm on my way to killing myself regardless. So I can have surgery. Have faith in my surgeon and those around me that all will work out. Have faith in myself that when my time is come to return back home to my HF - then it will come. There is NOTHING I can do about it. So my rationale was if I don't have surgery I'm just going to die a slower miserable death. Instead of giving myself the chance at a healthier life to spend w/my babies.
NOW...You said you don't have any co-morbids. GREAT. Count your blessings!! And that is a HUGE one. If your surgeon has a good track record in all of his/her areas expertise you should have NOTHING to worry about. The healthier you are going into surgery the better your chances are for a quick, fast recovery!!! Remember that!!
As for your 2nd question. I'm not sure how to answer that. Yes, our bodies are like temples. They should be left the way our HF intended. And no surgery doesn't go against what our bodies are made for. This surgery wouldn't have been made possible and have such huge success rates if it wasn't "good" for people. Your body is on its way to having many of the co-morbids that others have. I was lucky I didn't have to many co-morbids. However, last November when I was dx with a heart condition that was directly related to my health. Guess what....I jumped on the band wagon and made my first appt. I had "thought" about having surgery. But at that point when my PCP said to me "Gala, have you ever heard of Gastric Bypass" I interruppted him and said "Kent, what do you think of Dr. Sunby? I know he does RNY and I think very highly of him". This was the answer to my prayers. My dr. who is also my age telling me "Gala, you have got to get the weight off and it has got to be permanent. No diet will do that for you...." If you can do it now do it...while you are healthy. While you don't have the other health risks involved!!
Best of luck in your choice. And remember.....you can ALWAYS call your bishop/branch president and ask for a blessing. Plain and simple. No questions asked.
Merry Christmas.
Gala
Topic: issues- need opinions/advise
hello! i am a young (24) member (inactive) and am about to recieve my surg. date. and have a few issues i just cant shake
1.) i am extremly nervous and am afraid of death. i was hoping someone with the same religious views could shed some light on that fear for me. 24 just seems like such a young age to end this journey on earth.
2.)also i was taught in my home that our bodies were temples and that they are they way God intended (so no ear peirceings, tatoos ect.) which makes me wonder if this surgery is something that goes against our own bodies? (does that make sense?) i know that there are other surgeries which are nessisary and they dont seem so severe to me in this aspect because i am not dying. other than the wieght i am pretty healthy, no comorbidities or anything... so is this something i should be doing to my body?
i know that ultimatly i will make my own choices, but i am just looking for feedback from people who share my beliefs... and i have no other place to go. *very* few people know of my surgery
Topic: RE: AT GOAL!!!
Way to go Hydi. What a great Christmas gift to yourself.
I've been trying everyday to respond to your post and tell you how proud I was of you but everytime I tried to respond (to anybody) I got an error message. I thought the site was having problems. This morning I discovered that the problem was mine and mine alone. I have never signed out or logged out of Obesityhelp so I never thought another thing of it. This whole week there was a little note at the top of this Obesityhelp page that said "sign in". I ignored it because I've never signed out. Then I noticed that it didn't show my name at the top like usual so I got to thinking that I did a disk cleanup on my computer and it must have erased the cookie that saved my log in information on this site. I signed in again and lo and behold I can now reply to posts.
That was a long way of saying congratulations on your progress and good for you.
Melody
Topic: RE: Marraige & WLS
First off, Congratulations on getting your surgery date! It will be here before you know it. After you surgery your life will never be the same.
There has been several incidents of divorce among members of the support group I attend. They each seem to share the same types of problems after their weight loss. When the weight comes off in great amounts, their self esteem grows and they become more confident. Their spouces become insecure and jealous. The person who has lost the weight starts to think that the grass is greener on the other side and they start to wonder what else is out there. In the support group I attend the person who has lost the weight has been the one to initiate the divorce. Since they'd been heavy their whole marriage they start to think that they "settled" for the spouce they had because no one else would have them when they were fat. When they lost the weight (or at least a good portion of it) they realized that they were getting attention from the oposite sex and they started to think about what they could have had if they had been at a lower weight when they married.
It sounds like you're really trying on your marriage. Remember that you're not going through this alone, your wife is also going through challenges and changes with you. As you lose the weight, don't forget her. Don't forget to reassure her that you love her and she's the one you want to be with.
Don't give up on your marriage. It's worth working for and making it work.
Congratulations again on your surgery date. Keep us posted on your progress and share with us your successes.
Melody
Topic: RE: Marraige & WLS
Gala, thanks for the support. I have also heard negative things about LDSSS in the adoption area, having a job, love, and a temple recommend is not good enough for them. My in-laws were turned down by them several times. I am kind of leary about going to them, but I cannot find anyone who seems to respect our values. My wife is a mega prude and has some bizarre notions about sex. She won't listen to any one unless it comes from the church. I am hoping finally she will listen and begin to open up to me. I wish the best for you.
-Jonathan
Topic: RE: Marraige & WLS
First I need to commend you on making the first step of many in becoming a healthier person.
My husband and I have had a rough few years in our marriage. The last few even worse and the last few months even worse than that.
We both had WLS this summer. From a "wifes" perspective I can maybe see some of what your wife is going threw. From a "spouses" perspective I know where you are coming from too.
All you can do is make that step to better you!! Include her in your plans. Let her know that your love for her. Your desire to have a relationship that is built on love and trust.
I haven't seen LDSSS for marriage counceling because of bad experience I had w/them when we adopted our 10 yr old - 6 yrs ago. I prefer seeing someone at this point that is not a member of the church. *****spects our religion/beliefs and is working on the "core" of our problems. The hole intamacy (sp?) aspect well - I'll wait on that one. There are other issues in our marriage that are/can be addressed. That will come with time I am sure.
Take care of you. And while you are changing for the better hopefully she will see that and follow suit.
Good Luck.
Gala
Topic: RE: Marraige & WLS
She still has her free agancy Jon. You can't force her. I hope it all works out for you. Good Luck!
Lexie
Topic: Marraige & WLS
I was approved recently for surgery on Jan 12, 2005. I am really excited for it. I have been trying to take care of a lot lately so that my recovery is good. One thing that has been on my mind is fixing my marraige. I have heard there is a higher instance of divorce after WLS than before. My wife and I are not intimate anymore and she has turned cold towards me and she has become more inhibited as of late (more than she usually is). I speak with her about my feelings but nothing changes. She does not seem to have me on the radar. I have always strived to be a good and loving husband, but I lately I am trying harder. I am afraid that after WLS, I may want to leave the picture and start over with someone else. Has anyone used LDS social services? I got a referral from the Bishop yesterday, but I am afraid my wife won't want to go. She has refused to see any specialists regarding sex or marraige matters so far.
-Jonathan


