Foods you can NEVER EVER eat again
My pouch hasn't met ANY food that it can't handle. I've eaten cake (I had a few bites of birthday cake off my BF's plate over the weekend...literally 2 bites), I just ate some salad for lunch, and as far as pasta...I haven't tried it, but that's only because I'm trying to watch my carbs.
I think your Nutritionist is an idiot and must not have much experience with RNY patients. Most CAN eat just about anything....they CHOSE not to...and that's a big distinction. Yes, you might have a few foods that don't agree with your new pouch...but for the most part you will be able to eat just about anything you chose....just in very small quantities.
I think your Nutritionist is an idiot and must not have much experience with RNY patients. Most CAN eat just about anything....they CHOSE not to...and that's a big distinction. Yes, you might have a few foods that don't agree with your new pouch...but for the most part you will be able to eat just about anything you chose....just in very small quantities.
HW & SW: 363 Surgery date: 8/22/11 
I am 11 weeks out in 2 days, and i eat salad ... as a matter of fact ... love salad and it sits well with me. I haven't tried celery or steak because i don't desire it, but i can eat anything I want to eat and i tolerate it well ... no problems.
I am not a sugar eater. So i can't speak on the sweets issue, but I am glad that i don't like/crave those things ... that would be just one more thing to have to deal with.
Before surgery, I absolutely LOVED pasta ... now i eat very little (and i do mean) very little. If i want it, I will have it, but it just doesn't do for me, what it used to.
If I had to do it all over again, I would have the surgery in a heart beat. The BEST thing I have ever done. My sister had the lapband surgery about 1.5 ago. You do lose weight faster with the gastric, and i don't walk around with something in my body. Also, there are a lot of people out there who have had the lapband, and then came on over to the Gastric Side.
YOUR journey is just that ... YOUR JOURNEY! You have to find out what works best for you, but do get all the facts. The Best to you ...
I am not a sugar eater. So i can't speak on the sweets issue, but I am glad that i don't like/crave those things ... that would be just one more thing to have to deal with.
Before surgery, I absolutely LOVED pasta ... now i eat very little (and i do mean) very little. If i want it, I will have it, but it just doesn't do for me, what it used to.
If I had to do it all over again, I would have the surgery in a heart beat. The BEST thing I have ever done. My sister had the lapband surgery about 1.5 ago. You do lose weight faster with the gastric, and i don't walk around with something in my body. Also, there are a lot of people out there who have had the lapband, and then came on over to the Gastric Side.
YOUR journey is just that ... YOUR JOURNEY! You have to find out what works best for you, but do get all the facts. The Best to you ...
jameen (take a minute to smile ...)
I'm 7+ years post-RNY and there is absolutely ZERO foods that I cannot eat. Some I pay a high price to eat, such as full fat/full sugar ice cream and steak. But, I enjoy salads, cake, cookies, pie, pasta, fruit ~ whatever. Some times, they make me sick, some times they don't.
Sharyn, RN
RIP, MOM ~ 5/31/1944 - 5/11/2010
RIP, DADDY ~ 9/2/1934 - 1/25/2012
I am an adult and I can eat anything I choose. Having said that, there are many things I choose not to eat because they come with price tags. Sugar makes me dump and because I am addicted to refined carbs it makes me crave more and more. Same with wheat products. If I choose to pay those price tags I can have all I want. At this point I don't choose to go through the consequences of eating those items so I don't eat them but I know they aren't going any where and I can have them any time I want.
I have been on one diet or another since I was 13 years old. I have learned that every time I have thought to myself that I will never eat (whatever food) again I always have. I know better now. I could eat anything at any time. So I choose carefully to have foods that nourish me, satisfy me, and don't make me sick or set up cravings.
I really don't feel any deprivation. I indulge my sweet tooth with sugar free items. If I feel like cake I make a protein shake cake which is gluten free. If I want a muffin I make a minute flax muffin. When I wanted pasta I had some gluten free pasta or I use spaghetti squash. For pizza I make it with cauliflower crust. Same with rice, I make it with cauliflower. Does it taste exactly the same? Of course not, but it has the same texture and besides, I was one that never really ate for taste. I was a quantity over quality person. I would rather have a lot of garbage then a small amount of quality. Given the choice of going to a 5 star gourmet restaurant that served on micro plates a few bites of expensive food or going to an all you can eat buffet that had cheap, high carb, mass produced barely edible grub I choose the buffet every time. I was the one at the table who, when someone said "I can't eat this, it's terrible." I would say "Give it to me, I'll eat it". It was like a wino who would kill a bottle of Thunderbird just to get a buzz.
So, I guess what I am trying to say is, it's all in our perspective. You can either say "I can never eat (whatever food) again or you can say "I choose not to eat (whatever food) today. What having the surgery has done for me today was give me back my choices.
I have been on one diet or another since I was 13 years old. I have learned that every time I have thought to myself that I will never eat (whatever food) again I always have. I know better now. I could eat anything at any time. So I choose carefully to have foods that nourish me, satisfy me, and don't make me sick or set up cravings.
I really don't feel any deprivation. I indulge my sweet tooth with sugar free items. If I feel like cake I make a protein shake cake which is gluten free. If I want a muffin I make a minute flax muffin. When I wanted pasta I had some gluten free pasta or I use spaghetti squash. For pizza I make it with cauliflower crust. Same with rice, I make it with cauliflower. Does it taste exactly the same? Of course not, but it has the same texture and besides, I was one that never really ate for taste. I was a quantity over quality person. I would rather have a lot of garbage then a small amount of quality. Given the choice of going to a 5 star gourmet restaurant that served on micro plates a few bites of expensive food or going to an all you can eat buffet that had cheap, high carb, mass produced barely edible grub I choose the buffet every time. I was the one at the table who, when someone said "I can't eat this, it's terrible." I would say "Give it to me, I'll eat it". It was like a wino who would kill a bottle of Thunderbird just to get a buzz.
So, I guess what I am trying to say is, it's all in our perspective. You can either say "I can never eat (whatever food) again or you can say "I choose not to eat (whatever food) today. What having the surgery has done for me today was give me back my choices.
WLS 10/28/2002 Revision 7/23/2010
High Weight (2002) 240 Revision Weight (2010) 220 Current Weight 115.
Not only did I like your post for putting things so bluntly, but you gave me great ideas for substitutions so I won't feel so incredibly deprived! I WANT this surgery to work and I want to be successful at it. I don't want to be setting myself up for failure. I know I am a carb craver, so those ideas were such a joy to read! Thank you so much for your wonderful, thoughtful reply to my very emotional question. I greatly appreciate it.
YOU GUYS ROCK MY WORLD!!! Sincerely, she made me want to cry when I saw her last week. She asked how I would change a meal at McDonald's and I said I'd have a grilled chicken without bun and maybe a nibble or two of salad. She said, emphatically, "NO! You can't have salad after gastric bypass!" She said it kind of condescendingly, too. She also stated later, "If you add Beneprotein to mashed potatoes, it is the only way I'll allow you to have them and NOT get mad at you." Ok. REALLY? You'll ALLOW me? And not get MAD at me? I do enough getting mad at myself, thank you very much, without your help! And this is my life, honey, not yours. I left there so second guessing everything that I've been a wreck for a week. I've been horribly depressed, which is something I battle anyway, so this just added fuel to the fire. I don't have any intention of going to sit down at a buffet of spaghetti, pizza, cheesecake, brownies, and salad any time after surgery that's for sure. But to make me feel like I have to take a sworn oath to never look at any of those things again is awful.
As I am typing this, one of her (sort of) supervisors just called. I spoke to her about the issue and the fact that I don't always feel comfortable and what she said. The supervisor did point out that the nutritionists job for now, is to focus on what I need to eat immediately post-op. I told her that maybe she should have omitted the word "never" and I wouldn't have been so freaked out! We had a very nice talk, I explained my concerns and issues and cold feet. She herself is not only the bariatric surgery coordinator, she is also 7.5 years post RNY. She TOTALLY gets it.
I feel SO much better after all these postings and talking to her! I have my final meeting with the nutritionist on November 29th and she will be clearing me. I think if I just go in with a tougher wall and a go-get-'em mind set, I'll be able to do this. It is NOT going to be easy by any stretch and I am certain there are things I'll struggle with, but with God's grace and help from awesome people like you, I think I'll do it!
As I am typing this, one of her (sort of) supervisors just called. I spoke to her about the issue and the fact that I don't always feel comfortable and what she said. The supervisor did point out that the nutritionists job for now, is to focus on what I need to eat immediately post-op. I told her that maybe she should have omitted the word "never" and I wouldn't have been so freaked out! We had a very nice talk, I explained my concerns and issues and cold feet. She herself is not only the bariatric surgery coordinator, she is also 7.5 years post RNY. She TOTALLY gets it.
I feel SO much better after all these postings and talking to her! I have my final meeting with the nutritionist on November 29th and she will be clearing me. I think if I just go in with a tougher wall and a go-get-'em mind set, I'll be able to do this. It is NOT going to be easy by any stretch and I am certain there are things I'll struggle with, but with God's grace and help from awesome people like you, I think I'll do it!
She will allow you to eat mashed potatoes with beneprotein? And if you eat them without beneprotein she will get mad at you? Good grief, please, find yourself a good dietician. Your dietician cannot allow or disallow you to eat anything. You are an adult and you get to make your own choices. She should be advising you about those choices and about what foods will help you get to your goal and which ones will not. But it's your choice.
And if she really gets mad at patients that choose not to follow her advice, well, she needs some serious therapy. She should not be taking it personal if patients choose not to put benefiber in their mashed potatoes. since I'm guessing most patients don't follow her advice since it's crazy, she must get mad a lot.
If it is her job to focus on what you should eat right after surgery, then she should not be saying you can never have salad again. She should be telling you that you should not eat raw veggies for a couple months after surgery because it may be hard to digest and because you need to eat mainly protein at that time.
And if she really gets mad at patients that choose not to follow her advice, well, she needs some serious therapy. She should not be taking it personal if patients choose not to put benefiber in their mashed potatoes. since I'm guessing most patients don't follow her advice since it's crazy, she must get mad a lot.
If it is her job to focus on what you should eat right after surgery, then she should not be saying you can never have salad again. She should be telling you that you should not eat raw veggies for a couple months after surgery because it may be hard to digest and because you need to eat mainly protein at that time.
Kelly
Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR. If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor. Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me. If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her. Check out my blog.
There are a few things I can never eat again in volume, this is most things with refined sugars and such. Things I have eaten
A bite of cake
A couple bites of ice cream
A bite of chocolate
A cookie
Mini Muffins
These are the things that will make me dump if I eat more than a bite.
Things I was told I could never eat that I have eaten with no guilt
Pizza
Pasta (Pasta I don't handle to well so I typically avoid it)
White Breads (I have an english muffin with peanut butter and banana every saturday)
Rice (Same as pasta but I like brown rice and still avoid it)
Hot dog on a White Bun (Half)
Chicken Fingers
Flour Tortillas Not the low carb ones.
Baked Potatos
Pancakes
The changes I have made in my lifestyle, I now live a pretty active atheletic lifestyle and typically workout 5-6 days a week with a 10+ mile run on Sturday mornings, allow me the freedom to eat things that I probably shouldn't if I didn't live this lifestyle . On a good day of exercise I will have between 1,000 and 4,000 calories I have burned just in exercise. Longer runs require me to eat in order to prepare my energy stores.
Things I eat on a regular basis
Meats (all)
Fruits (mainly melons, berries, Apples and Bananas)
Veggies (Have to be frozen or canned fresh veggies have to be stemed to hell and back or I have issues)
Salad
Eggs
Cheese (Full Fat)
My initial nut told me the same scary story You can't eat this you will only be able to eat 2 oz at a time and it will take you 30 minutes and so much other crap. Post-op I sought out my own NUT who works with me and my new lifestyle, my new NUT has me on 2000-2300 calories a day and 160+ grams of protein. If people think 65+ grams is hard try doing 180! This has me in a routine wear I plan my day the night before and when workingout I end up having to eat even if I am not hungry or my calorie deficit will be to high.
So are there things I can never eat? no
Are there things I choose not to eat? Yes
Are there things I eat in certain situations? Yes
Do I love my new life? HELL YES!
in the end you have to find what works for you. What works for me won't work for everyone and that is cool. Don't let the unknown scare you away from a shot at a life that can allow you to experience so many different things. Remember you control your life and what you can or can't do.
A bite of cake
A couple bites of ice cream
A bite of chocolate
A cookie
Mini Muffins
These are the things that will make me dump if I eat more than a bite.
Things I was told I could never eat that I have eaten with no guilt
Pizza
Pasta (Pasta I don't handle to well so I typically avoid it)
White Breads (I have an english muffin with peanut butter and banana every saturday)
Rice (Same as pasta but I like brown rice and still avoid it)
Hot dog on a White Bun (Half)
Chicken Fingers
Flour Tortillas Not the low carb ones.
Baked Potatos
Pancakes
The changes I have made in my lifestyle, I now live a pretty active atheletic lifestyle and typically workout 5-6 days a week with a 10+ mile run on Sturday mornings, allow me the freedom to eat things that I probably shouldn't if I didn't live this lifestyle . On a good day of exercise I will have between 1,000 and 4,000 calories I have burned just in exercise. Longer runs require me to eat in order to prepare my energy stores.
Things I eat on a regular basis
Meats (all)
Fruits (mainly melons, berries, Apples and Bananas)
Veggies (Have to be frozen or canned fresh veggies have to be stemed to hell and back or I have issues)
Salad
Eggs
Cheese (Full Fat)
My initial nut told me the same scary story You can't eat this you will only be able to eat 2 oz at a time and it will take you 30 minutes and so much other crap. Post-op I sought out my own NUT who works with me and my new lifestyle, my new NUT has me on 2000-2300 calories a day and 160+ grams of protein. If people think 65+ grams is hard try doing 180! This has me in a routine wear I plan my day the night before and when workingout I end up having to eat even if I am not hungry or my calorie deficit will be to high.
So are there things I can never eat? no
Are there things I choose not to eat? Yes
Are there things I eat in certain situations? Yes
Do I love my new life? HELL YES!
in the end you have to find what works for you. What works for me won't work for everyone and that is cool. Don't let the unknown scare you away from a shot at a life that can allow you to experience so many different things. Remember you control your life and what you can or can't do.
Paul C.
First 5K 9/27/20 46:32 - 11 weeks post op (PR 28:55 8/15/11)
First 10K 7/04/2011 1:03 First 15K 9/18/2011 1:37
First Half Marathon 10/02/2011 2:27:44 (PR 2:24:35)
First Half Ironman 9/30/12 7:32:04
First 5K 9/27/20 46:32 - 11 weeks post op (PR 28:55 8/15/11)
First 10K 7/04/2011 1:03 First 15K 9/18/2011 1:37
First Half Marathon 10/02/2011 2:27:44 (PR 2:24:35)
First Half Ironman 9/30/12 7:32:04
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