Misconceptions that need to be resolved
Caveat emptor.
Why would you have the surgery if you weren't willing to improve your lifestyle?
Even the most minimal search would let you in on the rules of the surgery. How much water, how much protein, protein first. And I don't know a surgeon who allows drinking before one year.
It's difficult to stay on the straight and narrow - but who would you be if you didn't even try?
Why would you have the surgery if you weren't willing to improve your lifestyle?
Even the most minimal search would let you in on the rules of the surgery. How much water, how much protein, protein first. And I don't know a surgeon who allows drinking before one year.
It's difficult to stay on the straight and narrow - but who would you be if you didn't even try?
She recommended a fantastic protein shake that was great tasting, Vega Performance Protein, with tons of added minerals and antioxidants. She also recommended Barlean's Green Superfood powder for getting all of my green veggies in, that was also loaded with vitamins and minerals. Finally, she recommended I follow Life Extension's vitamin regimine for extensiving prolonging your life span and multiply it by two, since I would only be utilizing 50% of anything I ate post-op due to malabsorption.
All of these things were put into practice a full two weeks before surgery so I could 'get down the new routine'.
Finally, we came up with an exercise plan that involves 30 minutes of brisk walking twice a day for 2 months post op. At that point, weight training, which my friend also is knowledgeable about would come into play with aerobic, cardiovascular exercise. Since there was a chance I would not be able to walk for 30 straight minutes right after surgery, we planned for 4 - 15 min walks per day until I could. Eventually, after I heal, that will be increased to jogging, then running. As she feels there is no greater exercise than running.
I believe this does qualify as a lifestyle change and one that includes hard-core exercise, which isn't something I see stressed a lot. Though I may have missed those posts.
All of these things were put into practice a full two weeks before surgery so I could 'get down the new routine'.
Finally, we came up with an exercise plan that involves 30 minutes of brisk walking twice a day for 2 months post op. At that point, weight training, which my friend also is knowledgeable about would come into play with aerobic, cardiovascular exercise. Since there was a chance I would not be able to walk for 30 straight minutes right after surgery, we planned for 4 - 15 min walks per day until I could. Eventually, after I heal, that will be increased to jogging, then running. As she feels there is no greater exercise than running.
I believe this does qualify as a lifestyle change and one that includes hard-core exercise, which isn't something I see stressed a lot. Though I may have missed those posts.
OMG...THIS is what I am talking about in my rant post!
She isn't the first, nor is she the last, person to go into surgery with misguided expectations. Heck, every time someone posts here about how they can eat x, y or z and didnt' think they could, found out they don't dump or wonder why they are stalled, it is an indication that you might not have known as much about surgery (that not all people develop intolerances, many post-ops don't ever dump and that weight loss stalls are common no matter the method of weight loss) as they could have.
This does NOT, in and of itself, mean she was not willing to improve her lifestyle. It simply means she was woefully unprepared to do so. And at varying levels I think we can all cop to that one.
She isn't the first, nor is she the last, person to go into surgery with misguided expectations. Heck, every time someone posts here about how they can eat x, y or z and didnt' think they could, found out they don't dump or wonder why they are stalled, it is an indication that you might not have known as much about surgery (that not all people develop intolerances, many post-ops don't ever dump and that weight loss stalls are common no matter the method of weight loss) as they could have.
This does NOT, in and of itself, mean she was not willing to improve her lifestyle. It simply means she was woefully unprepared to do so. And at varying levels I think we can all cop to that one.
RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!
You can certainly go to the ER if you want to. I suspect, since you have no symptoms of having a leak, that they would just refer you back to your surgeon. Usually patients cannot just walk into the ER and request a scope or other tests. However, your local ER may respond differently and you can of course go see what they will do if you feel that is best.
Let me address your issues.
1. Support group meetings. If no one shows for your surgeon's meetings, you could choose to attend a different support group. You and your husband both work in the medical field and you are apparently fairly computer literate since you found this website and post and keep a blog here, so I imagine you could locate othe support groups if you wanted to. If you don't want to, that is of course your choice.
2. Your husband is a physician and you work in the medical field. Did it really sound right to you that you didn't need to take any vitamins? I'm guessing it didn't sound right since you talked to your friend who is a nutritionist about the issue. I'm assuming that you and your husband know how to find a registered dietician that is familiar with RNY if you wanted to get accurate information, and since you are computer literate, you could have easily looked up, read and understand the American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery guidelines. Or even the guidelines on your surgeon's website. Again, you are not required to do those things if you do not want to. But you could do them if you did want to.
3. Wine. It is surprising to me that your surgeon told you to "listen to your body" about wine when the written guidelines on his website advise against alcohol in the early post op days. I also assume your physician husband knows how alcohol would interfere with healing in your stomach and intestine. I don't know if anyone here thinks three glasses per week is an obscene amount or not. I don't think it's obscene, although I do think it is a lot of unnecessary calories. I do, however, think any wine at just six days out is a bad idea because it can interfere with proper healing. However, you have the right to drink if you want to, regardless of what I or anyone else thinks.
4. Some surgeons will take on new patients. I had surgery with Dr. A, who closed his practice when I was six months post op. I then made an appointment with Dr. B, who agreed to see me even though someone else had done my surgery. I did not like Dr. B, so I later switched to Dr. C, who also agreed to see me even though someone else had done my surgery. Will all surgeons take on patients that had surgery performed by someone else? Nope. Will some? Yes. So you could change surgeons if that is what you think would be best for you. If you feel you are getting adequate care from your current surgeon, then of course you do not have to switch.
5. Again, what would you like us to do for you? You say you are using this board for your main source of bariatric information but you do not seem to like or want any of the information you are getting here. Then you said you would get your information from your surgeon and nutritionist. So I don't know what it is that I or anyone here can do for you.
Let me address your issues.
1. Support group meetings. If no one shows for your surgeon's meetings, you could choose to attend a different support group. You and your husband both work in the medical field and you are apparently fairly computer literate since you found this website and post and keep a blog here, so I imagine you could locate othe support groups if you wanted to. If you don't want to, that is of course your choice.
2. Your husband is a physician and you work in the medical field. Did it really sound right to you that you didn't need to take any vitamins? I'm guessing it didn't sound right since you talked to your friend who is a nutritionist about the issue. I'm assuming that you and your husband know how to find a registered dietician that is familiar with RNY if you wanted to get accurate information, and since you are computer literate, you could have easily looked up, read and understand the American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery guidelines. Or even the guidelines on your surgeon's website. Again, you are not required to do those things if you do not want to. But you could do them if you did want to.
3. Wine. It is surprising to me that your surgeon told you to "listen to your body" about wine when the written guidelines on his website advise against alcohol in the early post op days. I also assume your physician husband knows how alcohol would interfere with healing in your stomach and intestine. I don't know if anyone here thinks three glasses per week is an obscene amount or not. I don't think it's obscene, although I do think it is a lot of unnecessary calories. I do, however, think any wine at just six days out is a bad idea because it can interfere with proper healing. However, you have the right to drink if you want to, regardless of what I or anyone else thinks.
4. Some surgeons will take on new patients. I had surgery with Dr. A, who closed his practice when I was six months post op. I then made an appointment with Dr. B, who agreed to see me even though someone else had done my surgery. I did not like Dr. B, so I later switched to Dr. C, who also agreed to see me even though someone else had done my surgery. Will all surgeons take on patients that had surgery performed by someone else? Nope. Will some? Yes. So you could change surgeons if that is what you think would be best for you. If you feel you are getting adequate care from your current surgeon, then of course you do not have to switch.
5. Again, what would you like us to do for you? You say you are using this board for your main source of bariatric information but you do not seem to like or want any of the information you are getting here. Then you said you would get your information from your surgeon and nutritionist. So I don't know what it is that I or anyone here can do for you.
Kelly
Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR. If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor. Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me. If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her. Check out my blog.
HIJACK!
Hi Kelz (do you mind if I call you Kelz)
Did you see the question someone posted about yesterday's Veggie Tales installment? It's on the post here on OH.
Hi Kelz (do you mind if I call you Kelz)
Did you see the question someone posted about yesterday's Veggie Tales installment? It's on the post here on OH.
RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!
On March 8, 2012 at 2:00 PM Pacific Time, Cleopatra_Nik wrote:
HIJACK!Hi Kelz (do you mind if I call you Kelz)
Did you see the question someone posted about yesterday's Veggie Tales installment? It's on the post here on OH.
Kelly
Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR. If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor. Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me. If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her. Check out my blog.
I offered support to you because I felt like you were in medical danger.
I offer support here and have for 3 years.
I am usually kind and supportive
I am reluctant to offer support after being called a bigot. Whatever your issues are..I feel that you need to apologize to me for that. If not, I will have no other words on the subject.
Deb T>
I offer support here and have for 3 years.
I am usually kind and supportive
I am reluctant to offer support after being called a bigot. Whatever your issues are..I feel that you need to apologize to me for that. If not, I will have no other words on the subject.
Deb T>
i didn't call you a bigot. in that post i said that SOME of the responses were BIGOTED and narrow minded. if you felt the shoe was fitting you, I can't apologize for that since I didn't assign that feeling to you.
i actually felt that your posts were informative if you're interested.
the posts from people cursing at me with obscene, foul language are the posts I was referring to as being bigoted.
i actually felt that your posts were informative if you're interested.
the posts from people cursing at me with obscene, foul language are the posts I was referring to as being bigoted.
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