fact or fiction?
Yes, some people find carbonation uncomfortable after surgery, but liquid flows out of the pouch so quickly that it is unlikely to "irritate" the pouch lining with such limited contact. Many people let it sit open a while or pour it over ice to eliminate some of the carbonation before drinking.
Lora
Lora
14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained
You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.
Unfortunately, they are either intentionally lying to you in order to scare you out of drinking diet soda after surgery (and many surgeons do, and admit they do it at conferences and such) or they are woefully misinformed and have not considered the basic laws of physics which are finite and preclude enough pressure building up in your pouch to even stretch it a little bit (as happens naturally when you eat) let alone premanently stretching it.
Try taking a balloon (which is FAR more elastic that your poych and stoma), snipping even a small slit in the bottom of it (say 1/8 of an inch). Hold it over the sink and pour some soda into it. Hold the balloon by PART of the "stem" (so air can still travel through part of it, which it cannot do if you hold it closed). NOw you have something that resembles your pouch with openings at the top and bottom. Try shaking the balloon a little bit to "stir up" the gas from the carbonation. Even that will not cause the balloon to inflate. End of demonstration.
Lora
Try taking a balloon (which is FAR more elastic that your poych and stoma), snipping even a small slit in the bottom of it (say 1/8 of an inch). Hold it over the sink and pour some soda into it. Hold the balloon by PART of the "stem" (so air can still travel through part of it, which it cannot do if you hold it closed). NOw you have something that resembles your pouch with openings at the top and bottom. Try shaking the balloon a little bit to "stir up" the gas from the carbonation. Even that will not cause the balloon to inflate. End of demonstration.
Lora
14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained
You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.
Just gonna say "what Kelly said."
Okay, I'll say something else.
My psych tried to tell me I was going to stretch my pouch by drinking too much protein shake in a sitting. She did, however, take the time to contact my surgeon's office to verify her information and was happy to tell me she was wrong. Liquids will NOT stretch your pouch. Carbonation will NOT stretch your pouch.
Drink all you can stand, you'll be fine.
Okay, I'll say something else.
My psych tried to tell me I was going to stretch my pouch by drinking too much protein shake in a sitting. She did, however, take the time to contact my surgeon's office to verify her information and was happy to tell me she was wrong. Liquids will NOT stretch your pouch. Carbonation will NOT stretch your pouch.
Drink all you can stand, you'll be fine.
RNY on 08/27/12
RNY on 04/24/13
Thank you all so much in helping me to understand. I kind of thought it was odd that they said that. I have been drinking only water and was eventually going to try diet soda but thought I would never be able to. I don't see myself starting to drink diet before the surgery because it would besilly to start a new habit I may have trouble dropping if it doesn't suit me. But thanks for taking the time to help me understand!
OK, quite confused now as I have been told no carbonation and have found several articles saying it will stretch your pouch.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/347882-carbonated-drinks-after-a-gastric-bypass/
http://www.provostbariatrics.com/success-after-weight-loss-surgery/weight-loss-surgery-success-life-after-carbonated-drinks/
http://www.bariatricchoice.com/water-bariatric-gastric-bypass-surgery-patients.aspx
And there are many others for scholarly sources so I don't know what to think now???
http://www.livestrong.com/article/347882-carbonated-drinks-after-a-gastric-bypass/
http://www.provostbariatrics.com/success-after-weight-loss-surgery/weight-loss-surgery-success-life-after-carbonated-drinks/
http://www.bariatricchoice.com/water-bariatric-gastric-bypass-surgery-patients.aspx
And there are many others for scholarly sources so I don't know what to think now???
Livestrong is not a scholarly source. The articles there are written by freelance writers. Writers have to have some sort of experience in the health care field. I have written articles for Livestrong. You know what experience qualified me to write for them? I used to be a certified nursing assistant. Do you think that makes me an expert on gastric bypass surgery? No way!
I don't know who wrote the article on Bariatric Choice or what their qualifications were.
The other one you linked to is on a surgeon's website, and some surgeons do tell patients that carbonated drinks can stretch their pouch. It just doesn't make it true. If your surgeon told you that you could fly, well, you are still bound by the laws of physics and couldn't really fly, right?
Scholarly sources would be something like a study published in a peer-reviewed journal like the Journal of the American Medical Association that showed that patients that drink carbonated beverages were much more likely to have stretched their pouches than those that didn't drink carbonated drinks, and that explained how it was determined that the pouches had been stretched and how much larger they were. If you can find a source like this, I'd love to see it. I don't think it exists, though.
I don't know who wrote the article on Bariatric Choice or what their qualifications were.
The other one you linked to is on a surgeon's website, and some surgeons do tell patients that carbonated drinks can stretch their pouch. It just doesn't make it true. If your surgeon told you that you could fly, well, you are still bound by the laws of physics and couldn't really fly, right?
Scholarly sources would be something like a study published in a peer-reviewed journal like the Journal of the American Medical Association that showed that patients that drink carbonated beverages were much more likely to have stretched their pouches than those that didn't drink carbonated drinks, and that explained how it was determined that the pouches had been stretched and how much larger they were. If you can find a source like this, I'd love to see it. I don't think it exists, though.
Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR. If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor. Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me. If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her. Check out my blog.
On October 4, 2012 at 9:33 PM Pacific Time, poet_kelly wrote:
Livestrong is not a scholarly source. The articles there are written by freelance writers. Writers have to have some sort of experience in the health care field. I have written articles for Livestrong. You know what experience qualified me to write for them? I used to be a certified nursing assistant. Do you think that makes me an expert on gastric bypass surgery? No way!I don't know who wrote the article on Bariatric Choice or what their qualifications were.
The other one you linked to is on a surgeon's website, and some surgeons do tell patients that carbonated drinks can stretch their pouch. It just doesn't make it true. If your surgeon told you that you could fly, well, you are still bound by the laws of physics and couldn't really fly, right?
Scholarly sources would be something like a study published in a peer-reviewed journal like the Journal of the American Medical Association that showed that patients that drink carbonated beverages were much more likely to have stretched their pouches than those that didn't drink carbonated drinks, and that explained how it was determined that the pouches had been stretched and how much larger they were. If you can find a source like this, I'd love to see it. I don't think it exists, though.
I will look tomorrow for the article.
Kelly already adrressed the reliability of the three llinks provided. The third one is simply a company that sells bariatric products. They make no claim to have any medical expertise. The "about us" page, in fact, only says that their staff "includes a wide variety of personalities from different backgrounds but each one of us abides by a set of guiding principles..."
Can you post a couple of citations for ones in "scholarly sources"? Even if they are not online, since I am working on a PhD I have access to most medical journals. I have not seen any in any of the RNY-related personal research that i have done, and I would be absolutely shocked if there is anything truly "scholarly" indicating that carbonation is linked to pouch expansion, but am certainly willing to investigate.
Lora
Can you post a couple of citations for ones in "scholarly sources"? Even if they are not online, since I am working on a PhD I have access to most medical journals. I have not seen any in any of the RNY-related personal research that i have done, and I would be absolutely shocked if there is anything truly "scholarly" indicating that carbonation is linked to pouch expansion, but am certainly willing to investigate.
Lora
14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained
You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.