I wish you the very best of luck in your job, your search towards your surgery, and your recovery afterward. I'm sorry you've become so angry and emotional, it was not my goal. 

......I think this is very nice Michael .

>> Acting holier than thou and being condescending and rude is not the same as possessing more knowledge than someone else. 

Funny, the only one I've seen being "condescending and rude" here (IMO) has been you. 

Really? Well that was not my intent. It seemed he was talking down to me.  He was insinuating in many respects to be talking down to me.  Michael i really do apologize lf that wasnt your intent. Sometimes tone is hard to discern.   I wish you a lot of luck too.  I lost my temper so i apologize. 

I spent 18 months with intermittent severe pain, went to the ER 4 times and was not admitted a single time. When I finally had surgery after over a year of increasingly frequent episodes of the debilitating pain, and finally had to be put on medical leave because the pain was so frequent, it was planned surgery.

Same situation... scar tissue causing a partial bowel obstruction.  Your proposition that the ER will just admit people for pain with no obvious cause is just ridiculous.    MANY people here can attest to being sent home multiple times before finally ending up having planned surgery LATER.  

Your doctors seem to be a different breed, though... I have personally never heard of someone being offered the option of being admitted for an ovarian cyst (and have had multiple ones myself, one of which ruptured, and had many friends who have had to have ovaries removed because of large cysts causing pain, and only one had emergency surgery through the ER).  

Lora

Wow!  I have never once heard of a doctor REFUSING to admit you if you come in with acute pain where the problem is identified and the solution is surgery.  I am not sure if some doctors are lazy, some hospitals are shady, some states are different.    That is my experience, knowledge, and information I possessed.  I am not the end all be all (obviously).  I hear sad crappy doctor/ hospital stories all the time.  All you might have needed to say is "i don't want to leave the hospital if my solution is surgery and this is going to happen again, I'd rather be admitted and have the problem solved.  My ovarian cyst had ruptured.  He asked me, "do you want me to send you home with pain meds?" and I said, no...I want the problem solved, I can't live with this kind of pain, and wait months for a consult.  He said, Ok..we will admit you.  Additionally, on the claims end (as the example I gave) was just that I have seen people get admitted many times due to acute gall spasm pain.  The basis of me saying go into the ER with acute pain, was just that.  I guess, there are times they send you packing, I had no idea that happens, and that's a waste of time, and puts the patient in unnecessary extended pain.  So I apologize if my statement wasn't as accurate as I would have liked.  I am very surprised at the response I have received.  

The point is that MANY times, they CANNOT identify the problem!  I thought we went through this already!  The situation I am taking about was based on YOUR suggestion that the OP go to the ER with pain and get admitted or have emergency surgery and then the costs would be covered.  

Apparently you are assuming that the ER folks are always able to determine exactly what is wrong and that surgery is, indeed, needed... And I am telling you that more times than not (based on my personal experience and the experiences of people here the last 7 years) that MOST of the time they cannot determine the problem and therefore you get pain injections and sent home.  What USUALLY happens for people who have RNY and end up with abdominal pain is that they have to have surgery to identify what the problem is!

Lora

Yeah that makes sense.  I see what you're saying.  I really was thinking of it that she knew what was wrong with her.  I see what you're saying 100%

I had a large amount of scar tissue develop around all of my internal organs (including my bowels) and had no idea it was there until I went to deliver my daughter and she was stuck under it (requiring emergency c-section which almost killed both of us). So yes, it is possible to have no pain due to scar tissue.