OH VSG position on plication

Wow.

After the new year, it seems like there's so many people asking about getting plication surgery.  Today, one woman posted about having a banded-plication surgery! 

I think it's getting to the point where we should type up a clear, well-written response with information and case studies, and then we could just copy and paste it each time someone comes along to ask about getting a cheapy plication.

Anyone else worried about people flying off to Mexico for the poor man's VSG?

For clarification,  re: people flying to Mexico, it is also being done here in the states.

https://weightloss.clevelandclinic.org/gastricplication.aspx ?utm_campaign=gastricplication-url&utm_medium=offline&utm_so urce=redirect

 I've never heard of banded plication surgery, but, and correct me if I'm wrong, with plication you still have the grehlin hormones and are likely to feel hungry even with the restriction. If this is true I would find it tortuous. A main reason I chose VSG was to be free from constantly feeling hungry and thinking about food. I'm newly sleeved but so far I never feel hungry and I definitely don't think about food every minute of the day anymore. It's been liberating in that way.

Please be aware that eventually the hunger does come back.  It varies from person to person but mine came back at about 1 year post op and now I'm hungry all the time.  It's a daily struggle sometimes to not eat all day long.

Yeah - that plication is bad news. Its right up there with the band, but even worse in my opinion. The problem with people chosing the band and plication is the fear of having the bariatric surgery being "permanent" . They feel they can have a backout plan if they don't like it or if it don't work for them. I can just remove the band or they can just unfold my stomach and I will be back to normal. The reality is that for one you will gain all the weight back. Two - the damage plication does to the stomach makes it most likely not reversable. Its basically FEAR that fuels people to make poor choices. Why wouldn't someone not want there surgery to be permanent? Just doesn't make sense to me. Not looking forward to hearing the nightmare stories about how plication has ruined peoples lifes. Hearing the band stories depresses me enough. And last but not least - If you don't kill the grehlin you will most likely fail.

I flew off to Mexico for the VSG...watch it please. There are a lot of people on this board that went to Mexico for VSG, and not the Plication. My doc does the Plication, but I chose the VSG. It's still a choice.

I considered plication before I was approved for VSG, when I was still fighting w/ the insurance company and thought I was going to have to go the self-pay route. There was a group in a neighboring state offering plication for a reduced price. But, I agree w/ Maria: if all of the stomach is still there, just folded up on itself, then isn't ghrelin still produced? I asked this question and the office gave me a "BS" answer (actually they didn't answer it at all, which was another reason I didn't go that route). I am just over 2 months post-op and occasionally have "tinges" of hunger when the sleeve is very empty. Otherwise I am not interested in food at all. I guess we'll see what time brings, but overall I am very glad I had VSG and not plication.

wait - MORE importantly this poster wants plication WHILE having an eroded band.
this is even more of an issue & still stunned it was a suggested procedure.

i hope she gets another opinion or 3.

 ACK, the current one on the main forum has already HAD a band erosion and the doctor is trying to talk her into a new one. I hope she runs fast and far and finds a surgeon who knows what he is doing.

i noticed this thread - well went dead.


umm.., there is ample opportunity to discuss this at the source ....or not.