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I like to look at WLS as something of a "do-over" - it allows us to get back to a normal-ish weight and gives us a second chance a keeping it there, but it doesn't allow us to make the same mistakes that got us MO (morbidly obese) in the first place. We need to learn how to maintain ourselves as a "normal" person does (and/or to compensate for whatever metabolic deficiencies we may have that has helped keep us MO.) One of the problems is that maintaining our weight, while related to, is not the same as losing it in the first place - that's why diets alone don't work in the long term (about a 5% success rate beyond a year; WLS is more on the order of 50% after 5+ years.) Also, those who do lose a lot on a diet program alone tend to snap back and regain that weight fairly quickly, usually within the next year; with WLS, the regain process, if it happens, tends to be slower as there is still restriction at work, so there is more time to catch it and make corrections.
Another way to look at it is that this is a team effort - neither we, alone, nor the WLS alone will do the job - it is a combined effort; we need to learn how to use our WLS to maintain our weight and health in the long term after it has helped us lose the weight over that first year or so.
You mention discipline, and to me, in this realm, this implies sticking to some prescribed diet - certain calorie or macro counts or ratios - whatever the diet promotes - which tends to work OK as long as one has the positive feedback of the weight coming off. Once that stops, there is little incentive to stick to the diet and the weight starts coming back - this is why diets fail 95% of the time. You speak of having a hard time sticking to an eating style before surgery - whose eating style are you trying to stick to. To me, this is something that we have to make our own (much like a tailored suit, versus a borrowed one - it has to fit us, not someone else.)
When I started this game some fifteen years or so ago, when my wife was getting serious about WLS and I was going along for the ride with her, we needed to do the typical six month insurance diet/exercise program. My philosophy on it, as long as we had to spend the time on it, was to work on what my diet and lifestyle should look like in 5-10 years, rather than some quickie weight loss fad diet. I studied nutrition and worked to drive my tastes toward that goal of a sustainable healthy diet that would help control my weight. It wasn't perfect by any standards (most particularly whatever the fad diet of the day was) but was getting as close to the ideals of nutrition science as I could get, and it was (and is) a work in progress. But it was "good enough". I lost around 50 lb, or about a third of my excess, over those months and it felt good. It wasn't quite a "I've got this nailed, I don't need surgery..." moment, but more of a "if I can be one of those lucky 5%, that's great, but I'm not counting on it - just yet." That was about what I could lose on that basis - a few more here or there, but nothing that stuck. I became more of a test of maintenance - can I maintain this loss? As it turned out, yes I could over the next several years, as my habits had evolved enough to do that, but ultimately I did need the WLS to finish the job (I probably could have jumped onto one of those fad diets to lost more, but that would most likely have resulted in the total regain that is typical of them.) This exercise did teach me a lot about myself and what I needed to get the job done, and helped drive the decision as to what procedure was appropriate for me. I went with the VSG as I seemed to have developed a reasonable level of weight control; had I gone the total regain route as so often happens, that would have pointed me more towards the DS, as that offers better regain resistance than the other mainstream procedures like the VSG or RNY
A good RD (nutritionist or dietician) can work within your tastes and preferences to adjust your diet in the right direction, and help you evolve your tastes, making it more sustainable effort than some packaged or fad diet. Some bariatric programs are more flexible than others - some can be quite cookie cutter, which is great if you fit their mold, but counterproductive if you don't. It may be appropriate to take a step back and really evaluate your needs, and what the program you have chosen provides in that area - a delay or change might be appropriate.
Good luck!
1st support group/seminar - 8/03 (has it been that long?)
Wife's DS - 5/05 w Dr. Robert Rabkin VSG on 5/9/11 by Dr. John Rabkin
There may be other practices in your area that also have support groups that you can join - many welcome patients from other practices (and some like to keep them proprietary to their own patients.) You may find another group that fits your needs better than the ones offered by your practice and ultimately drop one i favor of another as you proceed. The one my wife and I attend has evolved to being primarily for veterans many years out and less instructive for pre- and early post- ops.
1st support group/seminar - 8/03 (has it been that long?)
Wife's DS - 5/05 w Dr. Robert Rabkin VSG on 5/9/11 by Dr. John Rabkin
You basically have to start drinking from the time you wake up to make it a little easier....Try maybe ho****er sometimes that makes it easier. Just keep sipping and walking and before you know it you'll get more water in.

*Still on my Everchanging Journey*
Sleeved: 3/13/12 SW479 SW433 LW 306
Revision from sleeve to bypass :2/12/20
SW 317.3
UGW 210-230
My clinic is the same. Once a month. I'm not sure that is going to be enough.
on 2/21/20 5:58 am - WI
It gets easier.
Try liquids of a different temperature. I could not drink anything cold, but hot tea worked great. Just keep trying. Dehydration is not something you want to deal with.
on 2/21/20 5:52 am, edited 2/20/20 9:53 pm - WI
I live in a very rural area and there are no support groups here. OH is my only support group. I visit this site every day and read. I actually lurked on this site for 3 years before I joined. The people who helped me the most are the vets *****fused to hand-pat and tell me I'm doing fine when I was screwing up. If that is what you need...this is your new WLS family.
There are some people on this site who think anything but a "hand-patting, mushy gushy" approach is bullying. It's not. Support, to me, is when someone who has been through the same issues slaps the cookie out of my hand and says, "what the hell are you doing? You know better". You may see a few of them calling out a WLS vet for being real with a newbie. I worry about those people influencing the success of that new WLS patient. That is the reason why many of us have stayed on this site (some for decades) to offer our advice. We want you to succeed.
You really can do this...many of us have...I had my first WLS in 1986 and revised to RNY in 2010...but that is another story. The point is, anything you will go through... there is likely someone on this site that will be able to help you out. Seriously though...with and alcohol problem, and obesity, you really need to get a great therapist. That will help you way more than a support group. Find one you really connect with. If you don't like the first therapist you meet... shop around. They are your employee. You can fire them. Just keep searching until you click with one.
Walking really helped me after any surgery.
Plus I was lucky that only 1 surgery I had there was still gas after the surgery. All the other time the surgeon took time and effort to remove the gas...
Give it time and good luck.
Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG
"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"
"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."
I'm 3 days post op from getting sleeved. Should I be worried that all I could take in today was 20oz of liquid and half a pudding cup? The 20oz liquid contained 40grams of protein but I'm trying so hard not to be dehydrated and I'm scared. I'm not sure why this is so hard for me now ? It literally took me all day to finish 20oz. Any advice out there? Am I gonna be severely dehydrated now?
a lot of bariatric clinics have support groups. My does - but it only meets once a month, so I come here for daily support (I quit going to the support group at the clinic long ago, though - the people that went to mine were all pre-ops or new post-ops, so they have very different issues than I do....). But I've found this site very helpful.
Do you attend groups outside of this website? Are there support groups in your area that are as honest about this procedure as you are?
I've been to OA meetings but found them unhelpful. I think a support group for bariatric surgery may be helpful.
I would consider a therapist, but I am a member of AA so I find groups comfortable and helpful.