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scottseibert68
on 2/20/20 7:21 pm
Topic: RE: I'm frightened after reading some of these posts. Stalling made me give up losing weight in the past

"Obesity is not cured, just put into remission."

This is a harsh reality. I guess I probably knew that, but to read it from someone else... thank you.

I am also an alcoholic, so I have put alcohol aside with the same knowledge that it is not cured only in remission as long as I do the work.

I've been to some OA meetings, but have not found them very helpful really. Do you do any groups outside of this online group?

White Dove
on 2/20/20 1:14 pm - Warren, OH
Topic: RE: I'm frightened after reading some of these posts. Stalling made me give up losing weight in the past

The "average" weight loss is 100 pounds. Almost 100% regain 20 pounds by the end of year three.

50% regain 50 pounds by the end of year five. Some regain 100 pounds by year 10 or sooner. Some end up heavier than they started. We were taught to lose weight and then go to maintenance. With weight loss surgery, there is no maintenance.

Unless you watch your diet carefully and do not eat more than you burn you will regain the weight.

Obesity is not cured, just put into remission. You can easily go back to it.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 2/20/20 12:55 pm - Warren, OH
Topic: RE: I'm frightened after reading some of these posts. Stalling made me give up losing weight in the past

Surgery gives you about two years where losing is quick and easy. But the body is smart and it learns how to get back the weight that it feels you unfairly starved it of .

Think of your body like a person working at a job. Every week they expect to get paid and have money to spend. But one day the body is doing its same work, but the food is suddenly cut to almost nothing. It has to work with far fewer calories and loses weight.

Then it gets better and tells you to give it back all of its food. And by the third year after surgery, you can eat all of that food again.

The trick is to continue on the diet plan even after you are able to eat as much as before. Take the first years to learn new habits and then continue those habits and you will never have to worry much about regain.

I am on a diet and I will be on a diet every day of my life. If I quit the diet, I will gain the weight back.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

H.A.L.A B.
on 2/20/20 9:59 am
Topic: RE: I'm frightened after reading some of these posts. Stalling made me give up losing weight in the past

You have a good reason to worry. Long term it is so easy to gain. Just 100 cal extra per day above what our body need may result in 10 lbs gain per year.

in 3 years - that may grow to 30 lbs.

just 100 calories extra can be "good food" like protein shake per day.

Getting grip on what we are doing and how diligent we need to be is critical.

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

H.A.L.A B.
on 2/20/20 9:55 am
Topic: RE: I'm frightened after reading some of these posts. Stalling made me give up losing weight in the past

I am so with Kim's and Laura's opinion here...

You just 1.5 years post op. You are talking about the experience you have here and now. I think you may get a rude awakening as the times go.

In my first 2 years, actually 2.5 years I had a problem stop losing. I got 10 lbs below my goal. And I was eating more. I had to eat more to maintain.

And then came year 3 post op and not doing anything different to what I was doing, I started gaining. I wanted to gain 10 lbs, but in almost no time I gained over 35 lbs. It then took me 6 months to lose 20, and then another year to reach my goal.

I am close to 12 years post op, and I know hat and how much I need to eat to maintain or lose. And what almost always guarantee I would start gaining.

I know one a couple of people IRL ( who are maintaining their weight (not counting people 5+post op here on OH). I know bunch of people IRL *****gained, and regained most if not all, or even more than they lost. Those people returned to eating the same things what they ate before WLS, and just eat less of it. They are gaining. some gain slowly than if the were before WLS, but after a few years it is visible.

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

Laura in Texas
on 2/20/20 9:12 am
RNY on 09/17/08 with
Topic: RE: I'm frightened after reading some of these posts. Stalling made me give up losing weight in the past

I completely agree. My local peer circle is similar.

I know some people here think I am harsh, but I know what to do and can see the red flags in others. I really do want other people to be successful. I think all of us long-term veterans do or we would not still be here!!

Laura in Texas

53 years old; 5'7" tall; HW: 339 (BMI=53); GW: 140 CW: 170 (BMI=27)

RNY: 09-17-08 Dr. Garth Davis

brachioplasty: 12-18-09 Dr. Wainwright; lbl/bl: 06-28-11 Dr. LoMonaco

"May your choices reflect your hopes and not your fears."

Citizen Kim
on 2/20/20 8:11 am, edited 2/20/20 12:12 am - Castle Rock, CO
Topic: RE: I'm frightened after reading some of these posts. Stalling made me give up losing weight in the past

You are very wise, both to recognize that WLS is not foolproof and in recognizing your personal difficulties. This gives you a massive advantage over those who think they've got it licked before and soon after surgery.

Rocky's reply above gives you great insight into what is expected and what you will need to succeed.

There are several long term successful vets here on OH who are here to both give and get support - that need never disappears. They have lived this surgery anywhere from 5 to 30 + years and they really have BTDT, so are able to guide, advise and kick ass when necessary. Use and appreciate this resource - it's maybe the only group that doesn't encourage hand patting or smoke blowing. Too many groups out there are lessons in failure.

So while those posts about not making goal, stalling and regain worry you, they are doing you an awesome favour by giving you an opportunity to consider ALL sides of this life changing decision.

Proud Feminist, Atheist, LGBT friend, and Democratic Socialist

Gina 23 years out
on 2/20/20 6:35 am - Burleson, TX
Topic: RE: I'm frightened after reading some of these posts. Stalling made me give up losing weight in the past

#yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes

RNY 4-22-02...

LW: 6lb,10 oz SW:340lb GW:170lb CW:155

We Can Do Hard Things

Citizen Kim
on 2/20/20 6:25 am - Castle Rock, CO
Topic: RE: I'm frightened after reading some of these posts. Stalling made me give up losing weight in the past

I think people with significant/complete regain are way more common than those of us *****gain and lose.

Most of the peers I keep in touch with have either never lost their excess weight or have regained and then some.

Never underestimate the long term successful veterans here - they are not typical in our population.

The OP is wise to be mindful of the very real possibility of not being successful in the 5, 10, 15 ++ long term

Proud Feminist, Atheist, LGBT friend, and Democratic Socialist

TheWombat
on 2/20/20 5:46 am
VSG on 06/11/18
Topic: RE: I'm frightened after reading some of these posts. Stalling made me give up losing weight in the past

I had similar worries before my VSG. I had tried so many diets in the past and failed each time to keep the weight off. How was this going to be any different? Here's what i would tell the pre-surgery me.

WLS is different. Normally, when you try to diet, your body fights against you. Your metabolism slows down to maintain your current weight, and you get hungrier. After WLS, you will be less hungry. You will probably still feel "hungry" all the time for a few months because of excess stomach acid. However, I found that type of "hunger" felt far less urgent, and I could ignore it much more easily. It's hard to explain until you've had the surgery. Now I only feel hunger when it's been a while since my last meal.

After WLS you will need far less food to make you feel full, so you will naturally tend to eat fewer calories. You can work around this by eating "slider" foods like sweets that move through your stomach quickly and leave room for more food, but if you're wise you'll avoid doing this.

WLS changed my cravings. Before WLS, I would crave something specific, like chocolate ice cream or pizza. Now I get cravings for "something sweet" or "something savoury", and in either case it's easy to find a healthy food that satisfies the craving.

All of these changes give you time and space to develop healthy eating habits. The danger is that you could eventually go back to your old habits. In reality, I think there are very few people *****gain all the weight. More typical is the person who loses a satisfactory amount of weight, and then during some life crisis (illness in the family, unpleasant job, etc.) they regain some weight. They have to go back to basics (eating high-protein, healthy food) to lose it again.

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