Question:
Cheaters-Less calories if you drink while eating something fattening?
They always say not to drink and eat at the same time. If I eat a fattening food, will it be less so if I drink with it?? Or more??? — shotseyrudi (posted on January 8, 2010)
January 8, 2010
Probably the same. Food won't stay in the pouch as long if you flush it
with fluid, but it still gets the calorie absorbtion in the bowel. Also,
if you keep pushing the food out of the pouch, you'll feel hungry faster.
— Rebecca T.
January 8, 2010
Not sure why you are asking this since you have only had surgery in
September. It sounds as if you are making plans to get around the surgery
to be able to cheat - You dod make your post to "cheaters".
Anyone can get around what they are supposed to do, but don't expect to
lose the weight and keep it off. This surgery is only a tool and as you
abuse it, it will stop working.
— Dawn A.
January 8, 2010
Why oh why do you even want to consider "ways (you think you can do)
to beat the system?" You didn't get morbidly obese by eating good
foods and being kind to your body. Why in the world did you even consider
having the surgery in the first place? This surgery is only a tool. Do
you truly think so little of yourself that you want to deliberately abuse
your body, and perhaps shorten your life, or continue to have problems
turning over in bed, squeezing into restaurant booths, knowing that folks
don't even "see you" because of your weight, or continue to have
life-threatening issues like diabetes, high blood pressure, high
cholesterol, sleep apnea, having to purchase clothes in the "fat"
store, etc? Lordy, gal, you need to truly begin to love yourself and do
things that are good for you, and not think of ways to punish yourself for
living. With these kind of thoughts, it would be wise if you seek out
professional help to assist you in uncovering the brutal truths for why you
even think thoughts on ways to defeat the incredible benefit you've
received with this tool. Then, you need to work with that person to
straighten out your thinking. You got the surgery. Your insurance paid
for it. How does your question make folks feel who truly want this surgery
but cannot get their insurance company to pay for it, and then cry tears of
great anguish knowing the only way they'll get any help is if they can save
up the $30,000 or more for this surgery. Yet, you treat this bariatric
surgery as a frolic. What is wrong with you? Now, if you come back with
saying, "I was just curious," we all know that no, you are not
just curious, you are just devising ways to foul up your tool, regain all
the weight and then some, and to be worse than you were before. Harsh
words, yes; but, your question needs to be answered with harsh words from
me and others because you and your health is at stake. You are in my
prayers. Blessings, Christine Gibson, MS, MA, Bariatric University Support
Group Coach, Obesity Help Support Group Coach, Obesity Help Support Group
Leader.
— Christine Gibson
January 8, 2010
Drinking or not doesn't affect the number of calories in the food you eat.
The reason we don't drink with meals is to use our pouch more effectively.
When we more quickly wash food from our pouch we are hungery sooner, eat
more and thus take in more calories. 100 calories= 100 calories period. But
100 calories of high protein, low carb food meets our need for protein
while satisfying our hunger at lower total calorie intake. Less calorie
intake means better weight loss and less regain of weight during
maintainence! Follow your surgeon and nutritionists plans to the best of
your ability, they are trying to help us be successful both in the short
and long term. Hang in there. Kevin
— hapkidodoc
January 8, 2010
Break your old habits, is my advise! Drinking while eating can also stretch
your pouch requiring you to eat more of even your healthy foods. Take
advantage of this new lease on life and do it right! Take care of your
pouch and keep it tiny. Change your eating habits. A snack, or sweet, if
you tolerate, now and then is okay, but i didn't incorportate those kinds
of indugences, until I met goal, and only do it now and then. (My Highest
wt 240# Surg wt 224# Current wt 112#. 2 yrs out, 5'2"). Good luck!
— lesleigh07
January 8, 2010
FULLY AGREE WITH CHRISTINE!
— [Deactivated Member]
January 8, 2010
Well said Christine !!!!! Joan, I am not sure why you would post your
statements to this group but you did. All I can say is "YOU SURE ARE
BRAVE." I am hoping we, that post back, are part of a college thesis
and just part of your research but sadly I don't think so. I am also hoping
that after reading all of these replies that it will help get your head
where it should be....fighting with all of your heart and soul to get on
track and use this second chance you were given.
We will ALL be keeping you in our thoughts and prayers.....
Work your program !!!!!
— karensaporito
January 9, 2010
Joan, it's okay sweetie to ask questions. To me I take absolutely no
offense to your question ... it's merely a question ... and a good one at
that! Makes sense .... hope you got your answer to your question through
all this. Most of the people on this site also deal with the challenges
and struggles that you do, and probably would love to find a way to eat
something and not have to reap the negative consequences that it has on our
health. But, until there is a "magic pill" .... we will continue
to do what we are doing .... use our "tool" to its best ability
and follow the rules!
— happypeach
January 9, 2010
I have to agree with all the folks that have responded to you. This is
major surgery and a life changing experience. Why try to cheat it? Take
this tool and embrace it and enjoy it. I think you need to speak to the
Doctor's psychologist.
I had my surgery at a gold standard facility and a center of excellence.
They have such a good network for gastric bypass patients, including the
nutritionist and psychologist. If you have this feature I would certainly
use it.
You may think we are ranking on you, but all these folks are so correct in
what they are saying.
— FSUMom
January 9, 2010
Regardless of what you consume, drinking with it will not alter the calorie
content of that fatty food, if you eat something you're still consuming the
calaries with or without liquid.
— [Deactivated Member]
January 9, 2010
Thank you, Gay, for your understanding. Christine, you can keep your
prayers for yourself. I admit, I have cheated in the past, but have every
intention of succeeding with my weight loss goal. I haven't gone thru all
of this torture not to achieve. The berating answers I received must be
from perfect dieters!!!
— shotseyrudi
January 10, 2010
Joan, don't take offense. You addressed your question to
"cheaters" so you set yourself up. Most of the people on this
site are not "perfect dieters" and neither are they enablers. If
you wanted to hear "it's OK to cheat" you should aske the
question elsewhere. All the best to you. We all want you to succeed.
— Muggs
January 11, 2010
A calorie is a calorie, whether on its own or rinsed down with water.
You state that "They always say not to drink and eat at the same
time". If your surgeon's office told you to stop drinking before you
eat, why do you think they said that? To ruin your "fun"? I
feel bad that the responses to your questions seem a bit harsh to you, but
honestly, if your question was addressed to "cheaters", what did
you expect? I get the distinct impressions that these are serious people
on these forums; this is not the venue to try to get post-WLS cheating
tips.
— sponge0
January 13, 2010
Hey Joan,
Just wanted to let you know that I asked your question today at our support
group. Here is the answer I got. Basically, as far as calories go, it
doesn't matter if you drink right away or not. Calories are not absorbed
in the pouch but in the intestines, so they will still get absorbed. That
is still the same as before the surgery. The Social worker said we need to
be careful about this because it sets us up to have an eating disorder and
at this point in the game we don't want that. Just wanted to let you know
what I found out.
— Dawn A.
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