What did I do WRONG? (shirataki noodles)

Sarah448
on 5/19/09 7:55 pm - Friendswood, TX

My DH made some spaghetti sauce tonight so I tried some angel hair shirataki noodles I got from Bekah's store and I ended up throwing it all up.  And I have only thrown up like 4 times in the 10 months since my surgery so I don't have a sensitive pouch.

Did I eat too much?  I didn't really get the usual signals I was full (burping for me) but I only dished up a small amount.

I know they are all fiber - do they swell up a LOT?  I swear 10 times more came up than went down! 


Johanna !
on 5/19/09 8:11 pm - Formerly known as jdcRI, RI
Maybe they were not chewed enough??  they have a weird consistency and are tough to chew -I had them a few years back and I remember a strange consistency.
Sarah448
on 5/19/09 8:29 pm - Friendswood, TX
You know - you may be right.  I DID have a hard time chewing them and when they came back up (sorry for being so graphic) a lot were in long strings, now that I think about it.

* JuneCleaver *
on 5/19/09 9:15 pm
You want to cut them up and chew really well.  I usually take two butter knives and criss-cross cut them several times.

Even though they are 100% soluble fiber they shouldn't swell.  If you think about it...they come packed in water.  If they were going to swell they would have already done it.  I think of it like this...what would happen if you packed rice or regular pasta in water?  All the water would be gone and the pasta/rice would be so fluffy and mushy that they would fall apart.  So I'm convinced that they don't swell.  Others may argue that, but I'd need evidence that they swell to believe it.

However, that's not to say that you won't have a problem with them!  Iif you don't chew them up well you might have a problem. 

It's definitely going to be different for everyone.  I can eat a WHOLE package of the Angel Hair (over about 40 minutes) and not have a problem - other than feeling a little full.  But SusieWong can't seem to tolerate the Angel Hair at all - werid! 

I would recommend you try it again but cut them up and chew really well.  If you still have a problem, then I would switch to the Orzo.  If you still have a problem even with the Orzo, then unfortunately, Shirataki is not for you. 

Bekah

Lap RNY 6/7/07 (Consult -196 / Current - 111.2) 
LBL/BA 8/13/08  
Coccygectomy 3/09

hippie_chick
on 5/20/09 9:17 am - Pensacola, FL
RNY on 05/21/08 with
On May 19, 2009 at 9:15 PM Pacific Time, * JuneCleaver * wrote:
You want to cut them up and chew really well.  I usually take two butter knives and criss-cross cut them several times.

Even though they are 100% soluble fiber they shouldn't swell.  If you think about it...they come packed in water.  If they were going to swell they would have already done it.  I think of it like this...what would happen if you packed rice or regular pasta in water?  All the water would be gone and the pasta/rice would be so fluffy and mushy that they would fall apart.  So I'm convinced that they don't swell.  Others may argue that, but I'd need evidence that they swell to believe it.

However, that's not to say that you won't have a problem with them!  Iif you don't chew them up well you might have a problem. 

It's definitely going to be different for everyone.  I can eat a WHOLE package of the Angel Hair (over about 40 minutes) and not have a problem - other than feeling a little full.  But SusieWong can't seem to tolerate the Angel Hair at all - werid! 

I would recommend you try it again but cut them up and chew really well.  If you still have a problem, then I would switch to the Orzo.  If you still have a problem even with the Orzo, then unfortunately, Shirataki is not for you. 

Bekah
I cut mine to shreds! I'm take a big 'ol butcher to them as they're drying on a towel.

A whole package, Bekah???

NO man or woman is worth your tears... and the one who IS,
won't make you cry!!

                                                                  
           Lap RNY 5/21/08 Pre-op - 222 / Current - 137 / Goal -135      
                                                             

* JuneCleaver *
on 5/20/09 9:35 am
Yup - I CAN eat a whole package (that's what happens when you mindlessly eat as you are playing on the computer) but I usually don't.  I usually only eat about 1/3 and I add protein like shrimp or chicken. 

Lap RNY 6/7/07 (Consult -196 / Current - 111.2) 
LBL/BA 8/13/08  
Coccygectomy 3/09

hippie_chick
on 5/20/09 9:56 am - Pensacola, FL
RNY on 05/21/08 with
On May 20, 2009 at 9:35 AM Pacific Time, * JuneCleaver * wrote:
Yup - I CAN eat a whole package (that's what happens when you mindlessly eat as you are playing on the computer) but I usually don't.  I usually only eat about 1/3 and I add protein like shrimp or chicken. 
OH! that kind of eating - in front of the computer - yep - guilty! I have only tried my creamy shrimp recipe with them though because I was never a pasta/spaghetti sauce type. I need to find more low fat creamy recipes!

NO man or woman is worth your tears... and the one who IS,
won't make you cry!!

                                                                  
           Lap RNY 5/21/08 Pre-op - 222 / Current - 137 / Goal -135      
                                                             

katiekat412
on 5/20/09 4:04 am
I agree. I eat it all the time, but the spaghetti is more difficult than the orzo. Also, it is very filling. I usually eat about a third of the package with meat sauce, or half the package with tomato sauce. The orzo is definately easier to chew/digest. I like to mix it up though!



Highest weight 250/ SW 233/Lowest Weight 135/Regain Highest 175/Current Weight 160

susiewong
on 5/20/09 4:03 pm - NV
Hello, I cannot eat any of them. I tried the orzo and it was still a no-go for me...go figure! Oh well, life marches on...thank god I can drink wine!!!

SUSIEWONG
5'4 (Surgery: 226) (Presently: 133) (Doc's Goal: 141)

Sarah448
on 5/20/09 5:42 pm - Friendswood, TX
Ditto on the drinking wine !!!!!!!


mcdavis511
on 5/20/09 4:31 pm
Maybe it is the sauce that did you in. Some tomato sauce is loaded in sugar both natural and added...
Sarah448
on 5/20/09 5:50 pm - Friendswood, TX
It takes a lot of sugar to make me dump and I have had that brand of sauce, but thanks for the suggestion.  We don't think about the hidden corn syrup in foods sometimes!

Sarah448
on 5/20/09 6:00 pm - Friendswood, TX
I will give it one more try with orzo on my next order.

I am sure now I didn't get the angel hair noodles chewed up well enough and I sure didn't think about cutting them up.

Bekah, I have to agree with you on the not-swelling-up because the noodles were still very thin that came back up.  But what DID happen since I didn't cut them up is they acted like GLUE with the spaghetti and meat sauce and it came up in big gooey clumps. 

Spirithorse
on 5/21/09 8:02 pm - Pasadena, TX
Howdy!  Maybe you had some food still left in your stomach that had not digested yet.  (Example:  4 ounces of steaks that is the size of a deck of cards takes about 18 hours to ferment in your stomach before it get digested.)  Oatmeal, pasta & rice do swell when they absorb moisture.  I am not sure what shiraki noodles are so I do not know about them.  I tried pork chops Saturday (1st time since surgery) & only had 2 bites when I had to stop & go throw it up & a few bites of other stuff that I tasted.  I keep missing the Pasadena Group postings because I have not yet been accepted as a member.  So, I sent a message to Sean & ask him to accept Spirithorse. Well it is late & past bedtime.  Good luck. 
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