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I've found out over the past 30 years that there are at least 2 basic types of morbidly obese people. The first group simply eats too much. The second group has a food addiction. Often, the obese person has both problems. Although WLS will restrict your ability to eat large quantities of food, it will not change the way you think. Food addicts are not going to be cured by the procedure. They can continue to lose weight by making a commitment to abstaining from having their addictive foods. They will slip from time to time--slips are part of recovery. Self-forgiveness goes a long way towards character growth and weight loss during recovery.
I say all of this because you put yourself and your friends on a slippery slope in trying to lose weight on a dare--even if it's for a good cause. You are bound to slip in recovery and you may then fail to lose a projected or pledged amount of weight. It's a noble ideal but you must be aware that you may be sabotaging your own recovery.
That being said, modify your goals to allow for slips. If you are going to support each other as you set goals to help others, remember to extend kindness and forgiveness to each other for failure to meet goals. As part of this, be kind to yourself and forgive yourself for your slips. Bob
I say all of this because you put yourself and your friends on a slippery slope in trying to lose weight on a dare--even if it's for a good cause. You are bound to slip in recovery and you may then fail to lose a projected or pledged amount of weight. It's a noble ideal but you must be aware that you may be sabotaging your own recovery.
That being said, modify your goals to allow for slips. If you are going to support each other as you set goals to help others, remember to extend kindness and forgiveness to each other for failure to meet goals. As part of this, be kind to yourself and forgive yourself for your slips. Bob
I appreciate your comments but your thinking needs an overhaul. There is no "DARE" attached to the idea of providing food for the less fortunate. I ask no one to weigh in and be public, this is a personal choice without discrimination.
To place obese in two categories is also shortsighted. Where do the medically challenged people fall? I had polio at age 6 and the post polio kicked my ass putting me in a wheelchair.
While everyone's comments are welcome if you are going to categorize people footnote your findings with your research rather than your ASSumptions please.
As for giving advice on what I should do in my community, run for office in yours and when you have served the public for 12 to 16 years, come on back and toss negatives at me.
When it come to educated assumptions I will gladly match your qualifications with my education; MA, MBA/HRM and MPA.
No that I've gotten over your personal research on obesity and all it's components and complexities, and the attack of my personal way of Paying it Forward all I have left to say is...
I was just posting something that was accomplished among my friends and city employees that was well received by those who participated.
If you want to feel good about yourself, go down and purchase a pound of food for every pound you have lost and give it to a foodbank or shelter...Pay it Forward.
To place obese in two categories is also shortsighted. Where do the medically challenged people fall? I had polio at age 6 and the post polio kicked my ass putting me in a wheelchair.
While everyone's comments are welcome if you are going to categorize people footnote your findings with your research rather than your ASSumptions please.
As for giving advice on what I should do in my community, run for office in yours and when you have served the public for 12 to 16 years, come on back and toss negatives at me.
When it come to educated assumptions I will gladly match your qualifications with my education; MA, MBA/HRM and MPA.
No that I've gotten over your personal research on obesity and all it's components and complexities, and the attack of my personal way of Paying it Forward all I have left to say is...
I was just posting something that was accomplished among my friends and city employees that was well received by those who participated.
If you want to feel good about yourself, go down and purchase a pound of food for every pound you have lost and give it to a foodbank or shelter...Pay it Forward.
I'm retired due to manic depression. I admittedly can't think correctly at times, but I do try to use logic in posting on Forums. This response is not really triggered by your response to me. I couldn't go down and buy 1 lb of food to donate for every lb that I lost. I lost 240 ls . My wife finally got a job after being on unemployment for 2 years. Unfortunately, the only way she could get the job is to be an independent contractor. It sounds good until you see how low the pay is and realized that she'll be filing income tax and Social Security tax as a self employed person. These are the type things that get me worried.
I just can't put my mind around the simple acts of daily livin. I'm not going to argue with you. I've got relatives with degrees in several disciplines. I simply knew when I got my BA that I was never going back to school. I don't even like to think back to that time and I graduated from Rutgers in 1972. My emotional support comes from my family and most notably from my wife. I'm really afraid that I'd be institutionalized if anything were to happen to her. Maybe my brother could stop that. I'm being negative about someting that may not happen --statisticallly she's more likely to survive me-- or that may happen in the distant future. I 's say that at nearly 61 I'm facing my mortality, but this is how I've felt since I was about 40.
Sorry if this sounds like a downer. I've been sick all week and am only now able to respond to my e-mails. Bob
I just can't put my mind around the simple acts of daily livin. I'm not going to argue with you. I've got relatives with degrees in several disciplines. I simply knew when I got my BA that I was never going back to school. I don't even like to think back to that time and I graduated from Rutgers in 1972. My emotional support comes from my family and most notably from my wife. I'm really afraid that I'd be institutionalized if anything were to happen to her. Maybe my brother could stop that. I'm being negative about someting that may not happen --statisticallly she's more likely to survive me-- or that may happen in the distant future. I 's say that at nearly 61 I'm facing my mortality, but this is how I've felt since I was about 40.
Sorry if this sounds like a downer. I've been sick all week and am only now able to respond to my e-mails. Bob
"...2 basic types of morbidly obese people.The first group simply eats too much."
Yeah right. Isn't that the warped type of thinking from people who are disgusted with those who are overweight, who would tell you to 'just stop eating'. I don't beleive there is anyone who is morbidly obese who "simply eats toop much. It's not that simple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah right. Isn't that the warped type of thinking from people who are disgusted with those who are overweight, who would tell you to 'just stop eating'. I don't beleive there is anyone who is morbidly obese who "simply eats toop much. It's not that simple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As you can tell from my post of a few minutes ago, I do have warped thinking but not about morbid obesity. I'm always reading up on it. However, I freely call myself a food addict and a junk food junkie. If you want a reference to what I am talking about, look at Food ADDiction--The Body Knows by Kay Sheppard. A food addict's body reacts differemtly to certain foods in the same way that an alcoholic reacts to liquor. There may ( and this is a huge May that is argued by academics) that even an alcoholic can tolerate some liquor. But it is better to avoid it than to take a chance on being pulled back into an addiction.
I've been aware of my problem for about 35 years but it didn't start showing up as excess weight until about 30 years ago. I grew up skinny. I remember what it is like to be able to run free and to bicycle like crazy.. I did those activities when they weren't possible. Now I have to walk with a walker or a cane for shorter distances.
Have a good weekend. Continue to post to OH. We do need to support each other even if we don't agree with each other. Bob
I've been aware of my problem for about 35 years but it didn't start showing up as excess weight until about 30 years ago. I grew up skinny. I remember what it is like to be able to run free and to bicycle like crazy.. I did those activities when they weren't possible. Now I have to walk with a walker or a cane for shorter distances.
Have a good weekend. Continue to post to OH. We do need to support each other even if we don't agree with each other. Bob
You did a wonderful thing and have given me ideas for my own community. Where we start out
in life or weight) is not the issue...It is rather the efforts we make to alter whatever is keeping us from being our most productve selves. Judgement has no place in any of this.Individual goals
and indivdual achievementsare what it is all about. I had my surgery eleven months ago and have lost 75lbs. I am 20 lbs from goal but that isn't the only issue...I have begun to see the "real"
me for the first time in thirty years. Heres to all of us moving in a positive direction. Congrats and Keep on "playing it forward". Thanks for the post....
in life or weight) is not the issue...It is rather the efforts we make to alter whatever is keeping us from being our most productve selves. Judgement has no place in any of this.Individual goals
and indivdual achievementsare what it is all about. I had my surgery eleven months ago and have lost 75lbs. I am 20 lbs from goal but that isn't the only issue...I have begun to see the "real"
me for the first time in thirty years. Heres to all of us moving in a positive direction. Congrats and Keep on "playing it forward". Thanks for the post....
She's from 339 to 200 as of 6/14/2012.. SOO proud of my bigbabygirl 
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