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Last week I had my revision from sleeve to RNY. I'm super surprised I can take a large sip of water. I remember in 2012, after surgery I couldn't sip hardly any. Has anyone else experienced this?
Hello!
This past Monday I had a revision from Eevr to RNY. Thank you for posting this. I
gad the same questions myself
I posted most of this on the RNY forum but wanted to add a note here as well, since I ended up getting a revision. Last week I woke in the most horrid pain in my stomach but I am 'tough' and I am NOT going to go the ER in the middle of the night. Right. So I did walk around for a solid hour with my phone in my hand in case I started to pass out (I wasn't thinking really clearly) and didn't want to call a friend at 3 in the morning. Gave up and made myself call 911, who told me to be sure the door was open and to sit down somewhere. They came in quite quickly, checked my heart thoroughly even though it was stomach pain because it was radiating so severely. Off I go in the ambulance to the ER where I met the surgeon who assessed me, then waited in the ER for 11 hours before the surgeon could operate. They did put me on an iv and gave me pain killers.
Surgeon (God bless him) told me that when he went in laparoscopically, he'd find one of two situations: 1) he'd see what was going on, clean it up, do a revision and I'd recover...or 2) he'd see a big mess, have to open me up, clean up what he could and put me on massive antibiotics, close off my pouch and put a feeding tube into my remnant stomach; then in a month or two, go back and reverse all that and THEN do a revision. God blessed me and we went with Door Number One and I am thankful as can be I didn't go the other way. This was all due to perforated ulcers that I did NOT know that I had...no symptoms at all.
I meet with him on this coming Wednesday for a follow-up to find out exactly what was done. I can draw a diagram of an RNY in my sleep but I can't really say I'm clear on exactly how the revision was done...I know he excised my old pouch and some part of my intestine, as the crisis was perforated ulcers. He kept asking if I'd used NSAIDS but that is something I've never done, not once since my original RNY. But I have been under an unusual and horrid amount of stress, way beyond the norm so perhaps that had some bearing. I'll learn more when I see him.
I live alone, am retired, and have awful obamacare coverage, so I can't imagine what my life will be like from here on in. Ambulance with all the heart stuff they did, ER for 11 hours, surgeon, anesthesiologist, assistants, pain meds, and four nights in the hospital....shudder.
When I checked out no one had been by to give my my clothes, so I got sent home in a hospital gown. I was just thankful they added pajama bottoms, LOL. Took several days to get clear of the drugs, but my last pain med was the morning of my checkout - have had only a couple of Tylenols since then, so that's good!
I have been perusing the Revision Forum but haven't found much info on RNY to RNY - anyone have something like this, I'm sure I'm not unique! Just wonder how this works for a revision. I have restriction again, but does any metabolic benefit happen on a revised RNY? Anyway, I am babying my new baby tummy and recovering very well! :)
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I also am having the revision to bypass. I am 6 years out and any hormonal benefit from the sleeve is gone. My surgeon told me I will not lose a lot of weight as the part of the stomach and all that hormonal stuff already happened with the sleeve. I know someone who had the revision for GERD and lost 20 pounds and that was because initially we will be on liquid and then soft food etc. Great results her GERD is completely gone. No medication at all and she had precancerous cells in her esophagus.
Slow down and breath. The most important thing is that you will be relieved from the GERD and everything else will work itself out. This is from someone who has to remember to breathe all day long. Wishing all all the best.
In my opinion, if you're having acid with a wider sleeve, "re-sleeving" which would make it more narrow, wouldn't help, since the narrow, closed system creates the acid issue.
I was in pain and throwing up stomach acid. It wasn't every day, and I was on pretty strong PPIs (dexilant x2 plus zantac 300) and it was barely controlling things.
Like I said, bypass post sleeve has issues for me. I dump off of both sugar and fat, so I have to be careful or prepared. I also now have both regular hypoglycemia and reactive hypoglycemia. So, while I was never diabetic and didn't need to check my blood before my surgery, I now carry a glucose monitor with me and check my blood sugar regularly. My vitamin levels are fine, but my surgeon has both his sleeve and bypass patients on the same vitamin protocol and I never ever miss a dose.
Apparently, the surgeon had left the base of my stomach much wider than a normal sleeve. He said that he has noticed that this particular surgeon did that alot. How I understand is that is what is creating the acid. However, I would be extremely nervous to sleeve again if that was even a thing just incase it didnt solve the acid.
I feel like crying because I'm in pain daily but I'm not. I am still lucky I only have this issue. Prior to your revision were you in pain daily. Pain that would go from dull burning pain and occasionally increase to pain that would almost send you to the emergency room? I sometimes feel like I'm being over dramatic.
How is the bypass post sleeve? Any complications? I know dumping is a side effect but as long as you dont consume more than 5gm of sugar that doesn't happen?? Also, how are your vitamins? Are you taking them daily?
Thanks for your insight on this I appreciate it.
I had VSG in 2014. 8 months later I started having issues with reflux. I underwent a ton of test. My sleeve was perfect, but my body couldn't adjust and over produced acid. My acid levels were 409% higher than normal. It's very typical to have issues with GERD post sleeve as the VSG creates a closed, high-pressure system and the acid has nowhere to go but up. Anyway, I revised to RNY on 7/1/16. It eliminated my acid by about 80%.
Revising to another sleeve (if they even do that) won't solve your acid issues.
Feel free to ask any questions you may have. I'm pretty much an open book.
I have been battling with GERD for a few years only worsening over this past year. Taking prevacid 30mg twice a day and carafate 1gm four times a day. Had an EGD this morning and my GI doctor feels all my problems are from the sleeve. Apparently, my surgeon left a pouch at the bottom of my sleeve. He is recommended revision. Of course, I'm super nervous about that but also don't want to take PPIs for the rest of my life either.
I'm curious if anyone else has had similar issues. Did you have the revision? Did you revise to another sleeve or go for a bypass?
Any information would be helpful.
Thanks
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