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frisco
on 2/23/12 10:15 pm, edited 2/23/12 10:19 pm
 
I'm pretty sure Dr Alvarez has a good plan.....Brandilynn will be more than willing to help you through it if you have questions... you should friend her....

frisco

SW 338lbs. GW 175lbs. Goal in 11 months. CW 148lbs. WL 190lbs.

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jaded123
on 2/23/12 10:15 pm - MD
Great post, Happy!
And congrats on Onederland!  Outstanding :)

I've gone "back to basics" myself this past week. 
My doctor's goal for me was 180.  Nine months post-surgery, I had lost 130 lbs and hit that.  Instead of enjoying it for a while, I immediately changed my goal to 170 and expected to keep losing. 

Didn't happen.

For the first time since surgery, my weight's been hovering at 179-181 for over a month.
I'm actually pretty happy here, but want a little "weight cushion" so hope to lose a bit more, 10-15, I think.

So I've gone back to basics, cut out the extra snacking, upped the protein, and increased fluids.
This morning I was 178, so hopefully I'm starting a (slow) downward trend again!

As you and Frisco said, if you do the right stuff, it can't help but work :)



HW: 310 /  Lost 15 on pre-op diet  /  SW: 295  /  CW: --- /  GW: 170-175

Happy966
on 2/23/12 10:26 pm

I don't always *do* the right stuff, but at least I know why it's not working and what to do about it!!  Good luck!


:) Happy

53 yrs old, 5'6" HW: 293 ConsW: 273 SW: 263 CW: 206

mjtierra
on 2/23/12 11:14 pm, edited 2/24/12 12:32 am - CA
VSG on 03/08/12

Good Morning..

Your post was somewhat of a eye opener for me. My surgeyr date is March 8th and I have been somewhat obsessed with trying to read and gain so much information that now I feel as I may be "over thinking"  as well. So I probably need to just relax and follow the post-op guidelines my doctor has given me. The only thing is I feel what would help me is a actual timeline. I do real well with these. Like one for weeks 1-2 and then another for weeks 3 and 4. after that I think I can figure it out. Do you know of one or where I can get that?

Thanks again.

                        
Happy966
on 2/23/12 11:53 pm, edited 2/23/12 11:53 pm

My doc doesn't give time lines. I think Dr. Cirangle tells his patients that he likes to see 50% of excess weight lost (EWL) at 3 months, 80% at 6 months and goal in a year.

I was at 47% at 3 months, and probably 68% at 6 months. This is a combination of my food and exercise choices, and how my own body works. I feel very successful, even though I didn't make these targets. I know I will be successful because it's been six months and my eating isn't running off the rails, *and* I know can keep eating like this for quite a while. Targets are useful because they tell you what's possible, and give you realistic numbers to shoot for when many docs are satisfied at 65% EWL.

Right now, I have 38 more pounds to my ultimate goal. I really have no doubt I'll make it. I have averaged 1.8 pounds per week over the past 3 months. So I think I can hit goal at a year if I'm vigilant and step up the exercise.

A good plan followed imperfectly will work if you stick with it. My goal is 700 cal/day, and I usually end up in the 700s except for bad choice days. And my bad choice days aren't that bad, usually higher fat foods, not crappy useless junk, and not more than 900 cals. I am not hungry on this food plan (and I can definitely get hungry), and I do not feel deprived.

I would say this: do not force more calories early out, no matter what your NUT tells you. Sometimes I've heard them encourage calories and carbs that are more for normies. I hear some of them are saying as much as 1200 cal a day, to people only a few months out. I could definitely eat 1200 cal a day (now, not at 2 months) if I set my mind to it and ate 6 times a day or ate crappy useless junk, but why? I'm well satisfied at less than that, and I meet all my protein goals every single day. Stay low for as long as you can, because it won't be forever and it's easiest early out.


:) Happy

53 yrs old, 5'6" HW: 293 ConsW: 273 SW: 263 CW: 206

Pkrplyr777
on 2/23/12 11:17 pm - CT
Great post!

I think it's very helpful to the people who are about to embark on this journey to hear from the people who have been doing it and those that have "done" it (maintaining).
Even from those that have not had the great success they had hoped for,

Learning from each other in invaluable.

donna
  HW/233 *  SW/212 * CW/133 *GW/132 * 100 Pounds of FAT gone FOREVER!
 
Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple~Dr.Suess            
Happy966
on 2/24/12 12:00 am

Thanks, Donna!  I agree, and I really enjoyed your recent post about making the most of things early out.

I want you to know that I think you've been a great success.  Success is much more about persistence than time-to-goal, you know?  I completely know that it's critical to not waste the time early out when it is easier to lose.  But I also know that I will have a better outcome five years out if I'm still following a food plan imperfectly, than if I reach goal quickly then let everything go to hell.  Cause that's right where it goes for me, straight to hell if I let my guard down.


:) Happy

53 yrs old, 5'6" HW: 293 ConsW: 273 SW: 263 CW: 206

mjtierra
on 2/24/12 12:46 am - CA
VSG on 03/08/12
Thank you both for your input. My program meal plan is set as follows:

1 to 4 weeks out: 200-400 cal
5 to 6 weeks out: 400-600 cal
3 to 6 months out: 600-600 cal
6 to 12 months out: 800-1000 cal
1 year post op: 1000-1200 cal

I think this seems to be a good guideline providing I am getting all my protein & fluids in.

I am a avid water drinker (easily 64 + a day) and have always loved protein shakes. I am interested in my post-op taste buds as I favor vanilla shakes. I am also a water gulper and am going to have to learn to sip, which I'm sure I will very quickly, haha.

So the tips about adding protein power to various yogurts and adding plain Greek yogurt to broths are such great tips for me. 

Wow!  so much to learn. I'm aiming for a good grade in this class!

Thanks again. 
                        
Ms. Poker Face
on 2/24/12 2:21 am
Well said Happy!

Wow - so many inspirational, philosophical, vet-type posts today.  Must be something in the air or the moon.

I love it!

NEWBIES!  listen up!  It's good stuff from PkrPlyr, Happy, & Mom4Jazz today!!!

 

5'5"    Goal reached, but fighting regain.  Back to Basics.
Start Weight 246    Goal Weight 160    Current Weight 183

Starting size: 22, 2x
Current size: 12, L

 

Happy966
on 2/24/12 4:05 am

I feel very grateful today!  This surgery, and (or especially) this board, have been a blessing to me.  Thank you so much for being a part of it!!


:) Happy

53 yrs old, 5'6" HW: 293 ConsW: 273 SW: 263 CW: 206

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