Andrea U.’s Posts
Topic: RE: Anyone use a bodybugg?
I've used a similar system.
I liked it -- it was good to know how much I burn even just sitting on my butt all day or sleeping.
I liked it -- it was good to know how much I burn even just sitting on my butt all day or sleeping.

Topic: RE: 5 Day Pouch Test Info for my Mom (X-Post)
http://5daypouchtest.com/plan/theplan.html
If she goes to each day, it will spell it out better. No need for a book.
If she goes to each day, it will spell it out better. No need for a book.

Topic: RE: my thoughts...
There is still restriction -- my pouch is nowhere near the size of my old stomach. But I don't have the malabsorption that I did when I first had my surgery.
Additionally, there are people that continue to experience dumping syndrome or actually develop it later in their path. So willpower has an additional component when you have that to deter you.
However, in the first 12-18 months, there are many lifestyle changes that do take place -- many of which I don't even think about anymore. It's second nature for me to pick up this item over that in the grocery store.. for me to eat protein first rather than carbs.. for me to park further away in a parking lot and walk in rather than park in the closest spot possible. These changes are so ingrained after so long that it would be odd to do anything different -- and so I wouldn't say I "diet" anymore -- I just live how I live.
Additionally, there are people that continue to experience dumping syndrome or actually develop it later in their path. So willpower has an additional component when you have that to deter you.
However, in the first 12-18 months, there are many lifestyle changes that do take place -- many of which I don't even think about anymore. It's second nature for me to pick up this item over that in the grocery store.. for me to eat protein first rather than carbs.. for me to park further away in a parking lot and walk in rather than park in the closest spot possible. These changes are so ingrained after so long that it would be odd to do anything different -- and so I wouldn't say I "diet" anymore -- I just live how I live.

Topic: RE: OT: Begging the OH community to help (cross post)
I don't have IH, but I do suffer from daily chronic headaaches. I feel for ya.
Good luck trying to find some relief.
Good luck trying to find some relief.

Topic: RE: my thoughts...
Yes -- for several reasons. (andrea's fond of bullet points today)
1) Certain nutrients are absorbed in certain sections of the intestines. Just for giggles, let's say vitamin A cause it's alphabetical. Vitamin A has a pre-cursor called beta-carotene that is ONLY absorbed in the duodenum, which is completely bypassed in RNY and DS folk -- so any supplements in the form of beta-carotene are completely wasted. Vitamin A in the form of retinyl esthers (palmitate and acetate) are absorbed a bit furter in the jejunum, which is partially bypassed in RNY and is still bypassed in DSers. The degree of bypassing means that there is still quite a bit of malabsorption of vitamin A -- so we need to really bombard the villi with vitamin A to get the malabsorption covered.
Now, it's not an exact science -- there is some absorption of micronutrients in other parts of the intestines -- but not as much. We have a fairly good idea where things are absorbed in the majority of peoples.. but there are the few people that confound and confuse -- cause evolution and mutations occur.
2) Regardless of these villi regrowing for calories, the ability to cover for micronutrients will forever be damaged because the body is too busy trying to just compensate with the caloric deficit. The body prioritizes -- calories are necessary to keep the heart beating and the brain functioning -- so we need those first. Yeah, nutrients are important -- but we need calories first and so we're going to build up the villi for that purpose and not for the other.
That's why labs and supplements are critical for the rest of your lives postop.
1) Certain nutrients are absorbed in certain sections of the intestines. Just for giggles, let's say vitamin A cause it's alphabetical. Vitamin A has a pre-cursor called beta-carotene that is ONLY absorbed in the duodenum, which is completely bypassed in RNY and DS folk -- so any supplements in the form of beta-carotene are completely wasted. Vitamin A in the form of retinyl esthers (palmitate and acetate) are absorbed a bit furter in the jejunum, which is partially bypassed in RNY and is still bypassed in DSers. The degree of bypassing means that there is still quite a bit of malabsorption of vitamin A -- so we need to really bombard the villi with vitamin A to get the malabsorption covered.
Now, it's not an exact science -- there is some absorption of micronutrients in other parts of the intestines -- but not as much. We have a fairly good idea where things are absorbed in the majority of peoples.. but there are the few people that confound and confuse -- cause evolution and mutations occur.
2) Regardless of these villi regrowing for calories, the ability to cover for micronutrients will forever be damaged because the body is too busy trying to just compensate with the caloric deficit. The body prioritizes -- calories are necessary to keep the heart beating and the brain functioning -- so we need those first. Yeah, nutrients are important -- but we need calories first and so we're going to build up the villi for that purpose and not for the other.
That's why labs and supplements are critical for the rest of your lives postop.

Topic: RE: my thoughts...
Several reasons:
1) You won't continue to eat 800-1000 calories at 18-24 months out. Your pouch WILL stretch. It's normal to do so. You'll need more food to be able to feel satiated.
2) The malabsorption resolves itself between 12-18 months. More villi grow in to help absorb more calories.
ETA: It's not to say you can't continue to lose -- it's just not as easy to do.
1) You won't continue to eat 800-1000 calories at 18-24 months out. Your pouch WILL stretch. It's normal to do so. You'll need more food to be able to feel satiated.
2) The malabsorption resolves itself between 12-18 months. More villi grow in to help absorb more calories.
ETA: It's not to say you can't continue to lose -- it's just not as easy to do.


Topic: RE: Numbness after surgery?
While there is, in fact, a vitamin deficiency that starts this way -- I'm guessing it's not that since you are so early out of surgery.
However, I'd call the office on Monday and tell them about it because it should be explored. A nerve could be pinched, it COULD be that deficiency, or it could be something else entirely. At the very least, it should be notated in your chart.
However, I'd call the office on Monday and tell them about it because it should be explored. A nerve could be pinched, it COULD be that deficiency, or it could be something else entirely. At the very least, it should be notated in your chart.

Topic: RE: Vitamin List After Surgery
It depends on your comfort level.
Some do their own, and it saves a ton of cash. Others prefer to pay an office fee to have it done for them because they can't do it.
But there's nothing to say it can't be done at home.
Hell, my dog gets b-12 shots -- I'm about to give him his weekly dose right now.
Some do their own, and it saves a ton of cash. Others prefer to pay an office fee to have it done for them because they can't do it.
But there's nothing to say it can't be done at home.
Hell, my dog gets b-12 shots -- I'm about to give him his weekly dose right now.


Topic: RE: Vitamin List After Surgery
You've seen what you should be on.
Let me share why you should follow those recomendations.
My surgeon's office was one of those that suggested, at first Optisource, then later a Flintstones / Tums combination.
I got pregnant on that combination. Twice.
The consequences of bad supplementation, and two babies (which, btw, leech you dry before they leech your wallet bare) left me with NO iron stores (ferritin was in the single digits), low serum iron, b12 in critical ranges, and adult-form rickets known as osteomalacia due to low-D and calcium being leeched from my bones to supplement my heart's needs.
Now my D is in excellent shape, my B12 is superb, but I'm still kicking and screaming and clawing my way upwards out of iron-deficiency hell. I just got my most recent labs back and my ferritin is up to a 16. Still nowhere where I want it to be (range is 10-200) but it's slowly crawling upwards for the first time in quite some time.
Beyond taking good vitamins, my biggest suggestion is to get your own lab results and put your own eyeballs upon them. Not only that, but compare them. What was the lab value from last time and now? Did it change? Why did it change? What did you do differently? Is it trending up or down? Should you start to change something before it really changes? (Which, generally, the answer is yes. You don't want to treat a deficiency when it becomes a deficiency.. you want to head it off before it gets there.)
You ask what I take now:
3 Proferrin heme iron tablets a day
1 1000mcg b-12
1800 mg calcium citrate
600mg magnesium citrate (high dose for migraine prevention) + C
40,000 IU vitamin D3
400mcg folic acid
super b-complex
25,0000 iu vitamin A
2 multivitamins
I will have to had some K thanks to these lab results -- but I haven't yet. And it looks like I'll be adding back in some zinc as well (and probably copper).
Let me share why you should follow those recomendations.
My surgeon's office was one of those that suggested, at first Optisource, then later a Flintstones / Tums combination.
I got pregnant on that combination. Twice.
The consequences of bad supplementation, and two babies (which, btw, leech you dry before they leech your wallet bare) left me with NO iron stores (ferritin was in the single digits), low serum iron, b12 in critical ranges, and adult-form rickets known as osteomalacia due to low-D and calcium being leeched from my bones to supplement my heart's needs.
Now my D is in excellent shape, my B12 is superb, but I'm still kicking and screaming and clawing my way upwards out of iron-deficiency hell. I just got my most recent labs back and my ferritin is up to a 16. Still nowhere where I want it to be (range is 10-200) but it's slowly crawling upwards for the first time in quite some time.
Beyond taking good vitamins, my biggest suggestion is to get your own lab results and put your own eyeballs upon them. Not only that, but compare them. What was the lab value from last time and now? Did it change? Why did it change? What did you do differently? Is it trending up or down? Should you start to change something before it really changes? (Which, generally, the answer is yes. You don't want to treat a deficiency when it becomes a deficiency.. you want to head it off before it gets there.)
You ask what I take now:
3 Proferrin heme iron tablets a day
1 1000mcg b-12
1800 mg calcium citrate
600mg magnesium citrate (high dose for migraine prevention) + C
40,000 IU vitamin D3
400mcg folic acid
super b-complex
25,0000 iu vitamin A
2 multivitamins
I will have to had some K thanks to these lab results -- but I haven't yet. And it looks like I'll be adding back in some zinc as well (and probably copper).

Topic: RE: Less Expensive Protein
HT has the ISS Oh Yeah RTD cases on sale still if you can find them..
At least mine still does. The singles not so much, but the cases still had the 19.99 price tag.
At least mine still does. The singles not so much, but the cases still had the 19.99 price tag.

Topic: RE: FREE sample protein shakes or bars?
Click will typically do a freebie if you ask -- tell them I sent ya.
[email protected]
Vitalady does samples for 1.99 each. It's worth it.
About Time does two samples for 1.99 -- that's WELL worth it.
[email protected]
Vitalady does samples for 1.99 each. It's worth it.
About Time does two samples for 1.99 -- that's WELL worth it.

Topic: RE: "unapproved" messages?!?!
My notifactions haven't worked all day, either. So I'm thinking the system is buggy all the way round.

Topic: RE: Immediate Weight Regain after RNY
It's normal.
The fluids used in the hospital are designed to hold fluids. As an example, women who give birth sometimes come home weighing more after they have the baby than before due to the IV fluids despite losing the baby weight, the fluids in the delivery, etc.
Honest, give it a few more days, drink plently of clear fluids to flush the sodium from your system, and it will go away.
The fluids used in the hospital are designed to hold fluids. As an example, women who give birth sometimes come home weighing more after they have the baby than before due to the IV fluids despite losing the baby weight, the fluids in the delivery, etc.
Honest, give it a few more days, drink plently of clear fluids to flush the sodium from your system, and it will go away.

Topic: RE: X-post - Got some labs back and.......
I'm sorry, but I'd fight the insurance and get a DS or VSG.
I do not think RNY or the AGB are the choices that are best for you.
You will need NSAIDs down the road -- something that you cannot take with RNY, and the AGB is not good with your RA.
There are ways to fight for your choice of surgery if you're willing to do it.
I do not think RNY or the AGB are the choices that are best for you.
You will need NSAIDs down the road -- something that you cannot take with RNY, and the AGB is not good with your RA.
There are ways to fight for your choice of surgery if you're willing to do it.



Topic: RE: Coral Calcium
Nope.
eta: Coral calcium is composed primarily of calcium carbonate (CaCO3), with small amounts of magnesium and other trace minerals. Calcium carbonate from coral is similar to calcium carbonate from other sources, with varying amounts of trace minerals.
eta: Coral calcium is composed primarily of calcium carbonate (CaCO3), with small amounts of magnesium and other trace minerals. Calcium carbonate from coral is similar to calcium carbonate from other sources, with varying amounts of trace minerals.

Topic: RE: Vitamin Question - AGAIN!!!
If we were to put all the details of vitamins down, the post would be so long, it wouldn't be funny :-)
- Vitamins ADEK are what's known as fat-soluble vitamins. This means that they typically need a bit of fat to absorb properly in the digestive tracks. Dry formulations (also known as water-miscible) have been changed so they do not need the fat to absorb well. This is beneficial to people who malabsorb fats and oils due to a condition or surgery such as ours.
- Calcium carbonate is a formulation that is commonly found in chewables at walmart, target, cvs, etc. However, this formulation requires a high-degree of stomach acid -- something that RNY, DSers, and even VSGers do not have. It is also something that decreases as people age. Therefore calcium citrate, a formulation of calcium that does not require as much stomach acid to break down is the best form for us to take. However, finding a chewable form is much more difficult and thus the problem.
- Vitamins ADEK are what's known as fat-soluble vitamins. This means that they typically need a bit of fat to absorb properly in the digestive tracks. Dry formulations (also known as water-miscible) have been changed so they do not need the fat to absorb well. This is beneficial to people who malabsorb fats and oils due to a condition or surgery such as ours.
- Calcium carbonate is a formulation that is commonly found in chewables at walmart, target, cvs, etc. However, this formulation requires a high-degree of stomach acid -- something that RNY, DSers, and even VSGers do not have. It is also something that decreases as people age. Therefore calcium citrate, a formulation of calcium that does not require as much stomach acid to break down is the best form for us to take. However, finding a chewable form is much more difficult and thus the problem.

Topic: RE: 1st Annual post-surgery physical
If you're low on D, then 1000 probably won't be sufficient. Do you know what your level was?
I say this because the current recommendation is for normies to take 2000 just to maintain their levels.. and that's with no malabsorption. 1000 iu in a malabsorber is very little.
I say this because the current recommendation is for normies to take 2000 just to maintain their levels.. and that's with no malabsorption. 1000 iu in a malabsorber is very little.


Topic: RE: Hypoglycemia?
Sounds like it.
The meters aren't the expensive part.. or they don't have to be. It's the strips. Get a script and your insurance will likely cover the cost of your testing supplies.
It's managable when you start to figure out what triggers your symptoms. Are you just hypoglycemic, or are you a reactive hypoglycemic as well? A journal helps you know what helps you pull out of an episode and what makes one worse.
The meters aren't the expensive part.. or they don't have to be. It's the strips. Get a script and your insurance will likely cover the cost of your testing supplies.
It's managable when you start to figure out what triggers your symptoms. Are you just hypoglycemic, or are you a reactive hypoglycemic as well? A journal helps you know what helps you pull out of an episode and what makes one worse.

Topic: RE: Get ready to throw sh*t at me. I'm used to it.
Which tells you how f@cked up I really was.

Topic: RE: Get ready to throw sh*t at me. I'm used to it.
Pregnancy after RNY is a mind f@ck.
Do I eat and be healthy for the baby? Do I not eat and stay skinny? Holy hell, I'm gaining weight, but I'm SUPPOSED to gain weight? What, the scale is going up?!? NO! I want the scale to stay where it is! I've worked so effing hard to get it to go down for it to go UP now! Carbs? I'm supposed to eat carbs? But I'm not supposed to eat carbs! I'm supposed to only have protein! Wait, why am I fainting? And what's this orange drink thing they want me to drink?
Do I eat and be healthy for the baby? Do I not eat and stay skinny? Holy hell, I'm gaining weight, but I'm SUPPOSED to gain weight? What, the scale is going up?!? NO! I want the scale to stay where it is! I've worked so effing hard to get it to go down for it to go UP now! Carbs? I'm supposed to eat carbs? But I'm not supposed to eat carbs! I'm supposed to only have protein! Wait, why am I fainting? And what's this orange drink thing they want me to drink?
