The calcets?

OMG.  TO. DIE. FOR.

My review.

1) Yes.  The bypass is well above where the enema would be.

2) Miralax is a godsend.  Buy it.  Use it.  Enjoy it.

The display was 79 I think, the unit was 130 I think?  I don't remember exactly.  I'd have to research.

I don't use it right now because I haven't been at the gym.  Seems mockingly.  It stares at me sitting on my desk, mocking me to get off my ass.  But right now I can't get back to the gym regularly, so there it sits.

No, I'm not ready to sell it.  Not yet.  Maybe later.  Not right now, though.

Hey.

I see Billy Munn off 97 between Rocky Mount and Wilson.  Admittedly he's new to that practice, but he's not new.  He's a PA-C.

I took my list of labs in for my yearly check -- which is quite extensive -- and he ordered it all without question.  I'd say he's pretty open to it.  Maybe worth a shot?


Lemme know if you're interested in their number.

Um.  You jumped me defending whatever this company is.  Don't turn this around.  If you hadn't decided that you needed to jump me, this wouldn't have turned into anything other than me stating my skepticism -- which hasn't changed, btw, and you jumping up and down stating how you know all about how companies produce things and THIS is a good company but whatsit over there isn't.

I said that I am skeptical of ALL liquids.  You're the one hanging your hat on this particular one.  Period.  I never said I wasn't the only one who did research on this -- and I never will claim that. I think it's great that people DO research what goes in their mouths and their bodies.  But to claim THIS one is fine, but another isn't without any facts to back it up seems a bit flimsy at best.  What exactly makes THIS one fine and that other one crap?  Did you pay to have them tested?  Did someone else?  Is there some proof to this?  That's the sorta thing that makes a difference rather than "I know that this is good and the other isn't."

All I said, before you decided to jump my **** was that I was skeptical about this method of supplementation.  That some of the liquids were known to have done this.  And then you decided to come in guns blazing and tell me how wrong I was without giving me proof why or how.  All I have is that you tell me that I'm wrong.  Well, great.  Thanks for that.  You could also tell me the sky is purple.. should I believe that, too?

I didn't say that you don't do research on this stuff -- I said I was skeptical.  Give me something that defines your arguement rather than go off on me and I'm with you.  Give me something for my LOGIC to see.  Doing anything less simply deflects from the original arguement and makes you look silly.

I'm still skeptical.

I've seen how much volume is in a magnesium citrate capsule -- as I take magnesium citrate capsules.  And I'm fairly conversant with calcium citrate as well.  Add in flavoring?

So I'll keep my skepticism for now.

And that's only if it's elemental -- there's a very good chance it's 1200mg of calcium citrate -- not 1200mg of elemental calcium.

I'm guessing it's one of the misleading labels that's so very common in the liquid supplements.

Well, copper and E can have neurological weakness as well.  Iron overload can cause similar symptoms as well, but admittedly is less common.

So you only have B numbers?  B12 is fine, yes.  Did they test for plasma pyridoxal phosphate for B6?  If so, then yes, 6 is low as under 10 is considered deficient (although this would be explained on your lab sheet).  How did they test for B1?  There's several ways -- Erythrocyte Transketolase Activation Assay?  Serum, blood?

Yeah, it could be a vitamin issue.  Plus, there are other vitamins that could be it -- not just the B's.  Did they test anything other than the B's?


I guess the question is this -- if you're still having the problem, what does your doc say?

Wow.  This is the worst diet plan I think I've seen for a post-op RNYer..

But then again, I'm kinda a DSer in disguise I think.


You need to get him to a dietician who knows RNY.  This is not going to cut it for him -- period.

Ask me tomorrow.  Today, not-so-much.

It's really the same one way or the other, isn't it?

You're either looking at supplementing K or supplementing selenium.  K can be trickier given that it's a fat-soluble, but it's readily found in green leafies -- and if you put some fat with them (ie butter) then you're going to absorb that K better.  Selenium is found in nuts and will absorb well from them.

So it's really 6 of one and half dozen of another as my mother would say.

Either way, watch your labs.

Ha ha ha.  (Sorry, migraine, that's as much of a laugh as you're gonna get today.  I'm heavily medicated.  I should be horizontal.)

Vitamin K is blood clotting.  If you start noticing bruising, or if you get cut and have issues with clotting, then get your butt in and ask for a PT, PTT, and K draw.  If you're really worried, ask also for a clotting time series -- but that's a PITA (they cut you and you sit still while they time you to see how long it takes to clot).  It's fat-soluble, so we have issues absorbing it -- we have to have a certain amount of fat to absorb it properly unless it's a dry-formulation -- even in food forms.  It's abosorbed in the duodenum, ileum, and jejunum -- so we have a partial decreased absorption due to the bypass of the duodenum and ileum.

Since you're taking the silvers, I'd make sure that K is on your list of labs.  If your doc doesn't order it, get your PCP to order it.  Keep an eye on it -- but I wouldn't supplement unless you are low.  It's not one to play around with.