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Topic: RE: Tricare Prime North question
Jess
I believe you should qualify based on your BMI alone.
May I ask you to rethink bypass? For a BMI of 61 you'll want to lose quite a bit and usually bypass buys you about 100#. You will only malabsorb calories for 6-24 months but you will malabsorb nutrition for life. Bypass has a very high failure rate, regain is a buggar.
One of the big problems with bypass is that over time often the stoma dilates. There is nothing holding food in your stomach so you get the satisfied/full feeling. When this happens people are always hungry and always eating. Considering after a couple of years you are no longer malabsorbing calories that is when the regain starts. Bypass has a minimum of a 20% failure rate at the 5 year point. Risks and complications are pretty darn serious with bypass. They are finding seizure disorders, reactive hypoglycemia, malnutrition, bowel obstructions, ulcers, and all kinds of problems with bypass long term. Reactive hypoglycemia is another reason for weight gain in bypass folks. Those are not issues I would want to deal with. Thing is, you can have a text book surgery with the best surgeon in the business and the most compliant patient in the world and you still can have major, significant, life altering complications. Also, with bypass you can never take NSAIDs again. No Motrin, aspirin, none of those drugs. What will you do when you are old and arthritic? You are left with Tylenol and narcotics for the most part.
Have you done serious research into the sleeve or DS? Please just consider looking at all your options, you have to live with this surgery for the rest of your life. Nobody else, just you. Get the best surgery type for you.
Sleeves are the safest surgery type long term, DS is the most effective surgery type long term. No seizure disorders or much of the other nonsense.
Are you a sugar and high fat person? DS is your best option. If you are not a grazer but you just eat mega meals then sleeve is a better pick. With a sleeve your stomach is just smaller, same weight loss results as bypass without the dumping, bowel obstructions, blood sugar issues, and you can take NSAIDs. DS is kinda cool in the sense that you malabsorb 80% of fat, 50% of protein, and about 40% of complex carbs. So if you eat a bowl of ice cream you'll malabsorb 80% of the fat but you will absorb all the sugar. No surgery type fixes flour/sugar.
There is a person that is very well versed in DS and bypass, her ID is MsBatt. I would track her down and PM her. She's great at explaining the DS anatomy vs. bypass anatomy and she can explain even better why DS really is superior in every way to bypass. And with DS (unlike bypass) you will malabsorb calories forever.
On December 25, 2010 at 5:50 PM Pacific Time, passionjess wrote:
Hello! Thanks for replying! My BMI is 61 and I was intrested in the RNY. Thanks again for your help :)Jess
I believe you should qualify based on your BMI alone.
May I ask you to rethink bypass? For a BMI of 61 you'll want to lose quite a bit and usually bypass buys you about 100#. You will only malabsorb calories for 6-24 months but you will malabsorb nutrition for life. Bypass has a very high failure rate, regain is a buggar.
One of the big problems with bypass is that over time often the stoma dilates. There is nothing holding food in your stomach so you get the satisfied/full feeling. When this happens people are always hungry and always eating. Considering after a couple of years you are no longer malabsorbing calories that is when the regain starts. Bypass has a minimum of a 20% failure rate at the 5 year point. Risks and complications are pretty darn serious with bypass. They are finding seizure disorders, reactive hypoglycemia, malnutrition, bowel obstructions, ulcers, and all kinds of problems with bypass long term. Reactive hypoglycemia is another reason for weight gain in bypass folks. Those are not issues I would want to deal with. Thing is, you can have a text book surgery with the best surgeon in the business and the most compliant patient in the world and you still can have major, significant, life altering complications. Also, with bypass you can never take NSAIDs again. No Motrin, aspirin, none of those drugs. What will you do when you are old and arthritic? You are left with Tylenol and narcotics for the most part.
Have you done serious research into the sleeve or DS? Please just consider looking at all your options, you have to live with this surgery for the rest of your life. Nobody else, just you. Get the best surgery type for you.
Sleeves are the safest surgery type long term, DS is the most effective surgery type long term. No seizure disorders or much of the other nonsense.
Are you a sugar and high fat person? DS is your best option. If you are not a grazer but you just eat mega meals then sleeve is a better pick. With a sleeve your stomach is just smaller, same weight loss results as bypass without the dumping, bowel obstructions, blood sugar issues, and you can take NSAIDs. DS is kinda cool in the sense that you malabsorb 80% of fat, 50% of protein, and about 40% of complex carbs. So if you eat a bowl of ice cream you'll malabsorb 80% of the fat but you will absorb all the sugar. No surgery type fixes flour/sugar.
There is a person that is very well versed in DS and bypass, her ID is MsBatt. I would track her down and PM her. She's great at explaining the DS anatomy vs. bypass anatomy and she can explain even better why DS really is superior in every way to bypass. And with DS (unlike bypass) you will malabsorb calories forever.
Previously Midwesterngirl
The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.
See my blog for newbies: http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.
See my blog for newbies: http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
Topic: RE: Tricare Prime North question
Hello! Thanks for replying! My BMI is 61 and I was intrested in the RNY. Thanks again for your help :)
Jess
Jess
Topic: RE: Self pay - need advice
I will be going to San Diego to a bariatric center of excellence with Dr Ellner. Finding a bariatric center of excellence might be something you want to look into. The cash cost there is $23,545. My Dr here in Alaska recommended me to her since i am a cash pay and its cheaper to go there then to have surgery in Alaska. I can give you break down of costs if you want. I know there are places much cheaper to go to - like Minnesota. My pre op costs have been about $8,000.
Valerie
A COE does not reflect on the skill of the surgeon. Some of the biggest bariatric butchers are COEs. It basically means that they filled out the right papers and paid their fees.
I'm not suggesting Dr. Ellner is not good, I've never heard of this doctor. I just want to make sure you aren't picking someone based on COE affiliations only.
On December 21, 2010 at 11:25 PM Pacific Time, allvalerie wrote:
Hi AmyI will be going to San Diego to a bariatric center of excellence with Dr Ellner. Finding a bariatric center of excellence might be something you want to look into. The cash cost there is $23,545. My Dr here in Alaska recommended me to her since i am a cash pay and its cheaper to go there then to have surgery in Alaska. I can give you break down of costs if you want. I know there are places much cheaper to go to - like Minnesota. My pre op costs have been about $8,000.
Valerie
A COE does not reflect on the skill of the surgeon. Some of the biggest bariatric butchers are COEs. It basically means that they filled out the right papers and paid their fees.
I'm not suggesting Dr. Ellner is not good, I've never heard of this doctor. I just want to make sure you aren't picking someone based on COE affiliations only.
Previously Midwesterngirl
The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.
See my blog for newbies: http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.
See my blog for newbies: http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
Topic: RE: New Insurance
My surgery date for the sleeve is set up for January 17, 2011. I find out today we are getting new insurance as of 1/1/2011 which is Amerihealth. Does anyone know if # 1 they cover the sleeve and number # 2 do I have to go thru all the work up and everything again? I have Blue Cross right now.
Thanks
It is up to your employer if you have WLS benefits, not the ins co. It is an additional premium for your employer. Is it possible to get your surgery next week? ;o)
On November 22, 2010 at 10:09 PM Pacific Time, Markk7 wrote:
Hello, My surgery date for the sleeve is set up for January 17, 2011. I find out today we are getting new insurance as of 1/1/2011 which is Amerihealth. Does anyone know if # 1 they cover the sleeve and number # 2 do I have to go thru all the work up and everything again? I have Blue Cross right now.
Thanks
It is up to your employer if you have WLS benefits, not the ins co. It is an additional premium for your employer. Is it possible to get your surgery next week? ;o)
Previously Midwesterngirl
The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.
See my blog for newbies: http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.
See my blog for newbies: http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
Topic: RE: Tricare Prime North question
I was wondering if anyone has had the WLS surgery with Tricare Prime without going through a MTF. I would like to know what the approval process was like. I have no known co-Morbilities. Not sure if I meet the 200% over my ideal body weight category. I am 5'3 and I am suppose to be between 123-145. Not really good with figuring this stuff out. So if anyone out there can help me I would be greatful!
Thanks
Jessica
It really goes by your BMI more than anything and here is a BMI calculator:
nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm
MTF... meaning on base vs. off? What little I know is that they will approve a sleeve ON base but not off. I see a lot of people posting that they are unable to have that particular surgery type because of this but (and please someone, correct me if I am wrong) they will approve bands or bypass.
Most ins co's want you to have a BMI of 35 or greater with specific comorbidities or a BMI of 40 with or without comorbidities.
What is your BMI and what surgery type are you interested in getting?
On December 22, 2010 at 1:31 PM Pacific Time, passionjess wrote:
Hello!I was wondering if anyone has had the WLS surgery with Tricare Prime without going through a MTF. I would like to know what the approval process was like. I have no known co-Morbilities. Not sure if I meet the 200% over my ideal body weight category. I am 5'3 and I am suppose to be between 123-145. Not really good with figuring this stuff out. So if anyone out there can help me I would be greatful!
Thanks
Jessica
It really goes by your BMI more than anything and here is a BMI calculator:
nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm
MTF... meaning on base vs. off? What little I know is that they will approve a sleeve ON base but not off. I see a lot of people posting that they are unable to have that particular surgery type because of this but (and please someone, correct me if I am wrong) they will approve bands or bypass.
Most ins co's want you to have a BMI of 35 or greater with specific comorbidities or a BMI of 40 with or without comorbidities.
What is your BMI and what surgery type are you interested in getting?
Previously Midwesterngirl
The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.
See my blog for newbies: http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
The band got me to goal, the sleeve will keep me there.
See my blog for newbies: http://wasabubblebutt.blogspot.com/
Topic: RE: Bummer - no obesity coverage AT ALL
Thanks for the info and input. I wouldn't refinance my house for this, but the cost would be less than what I paid for my car, so it's not super scary from a debt perspective.
The investigation continues...
The investigation continues...
Topic: Tricare Prime North question
Hello!
I was wondering if anyone has had the WLS surgery with Tricare Prime without going through a MTF. I would like to know what the approval process was like. I have no known co-Morbilities. Not sure if I meet the 200% over my ideal body weight category. I am 5'3 and I am suppose to be between 123-145. Not really good with figuring this stuff out. So if anyone out there can help me I would be greatful!
Thanks
Jessica
I was wondering if anyone has had the WLS surgery with Tricare Prime without going through a MTF. I would like to know what the approval process was like. I have no known co-Morbilities. Not sure if I meet the 200% over my ideal body weight category. I am 5'3 and I am suppose to be between 123-145. Not really good with figuring this stuff out. So if anyone out there can help me I would be greatful!
Thanks
Jessica
Topic: RE: New Insurance
Hi Mark, hopefully you've moved your surgery up and everything has worked out well with the insurance. If you haven't though, I'd suggest checking out http://www.healthinsurancequotes.org to get some more info on companies that will cover the sleeve. Hope that helps mate and good luck with everything!!
Topic: RE: Self pay - need advice
Also should add thats for RNY-not sure which surgery you are looking into.
Topic: RE: Self pay - need advice
Hi Amy
I will be going to San Diego to a bariatric center of excellence with Dr Ellner. Finding a bariatric center of excellence might be something you want to look into. The cash cost there is $23,545. My Dr here in Alaska recommended me to her since i am a cash pay and its cheaper to go there then to have surgery in Alaska. I can give you break down of costs if you want. I know there are places much cheaper to go to - like Minnesota. My pre op costs have been about $8,000.
Valerie
I will be going to San Diego to a bariatric center of excellence with Dr Ellner. Finding a bariatric center of excellence might be something you want to look into. The cash cost there is $23,545. My Dr here in Alaska recommended me to her since i am a cash pay and its cheaper to go there then to have surgery in Alaska. I can give you break down of costs if you want. I know there are places much cheaper to go to - like Minnesota. My pre op costs have been about $8,000.
Valerie
