For the love of God, researchers!!!!

Bette B.
on 3/22/11 11:55 pm
 Can one of you get a grant or something to do a study on long-terms bandsters that involves more than a f*cking HANDFUL of people?? I'm sick or reading "Debbie Downer" reports about how much the band sucks based on 200 patients and now 80-something patients.

WTF? With all the hundreds of thousands of bands installed worldwide, THIS is what people are supposed to base their research on? For Christ's sake, we've got more than 80 people in this ******g FORUM!! 

Over 350000 Lap-Band® Systems have been sold worldwide

 over 400000Lap-Bands in use worldwide


Since its clinical introduction in 1993, more than 450000 LAP-BAND procedures have been performed worldwide.

Number of LAP-BAND® Systems sold worldwide as of 2009: Over 500000

2011 (January) - 650,000 LAP-BAND® System devices sold worldwide




    

Banded 10 years & maintaining my weight loss!! Any questions, message me.

Jean M.
on 3/23/11 12:03 am
Revision on 08/16/12
Amen, sister!

Jean

Jean McMillan c.2009-2013 - Always a bandster at heart
author of Bandwagon (TM), Strategies for Success  with the Adjustable Gastric Band & Bandwagon Cookery. Bandwagon for Kindle now available on Amazon.  Read my blog at: jean-onthebandwagon.blogspot.com 

   

 

 

 

Bette B.
on 3/23/11 12:04 am
 I think I'm going to have to trot that one over to the MB, too!

    

Banded 10 years & maintaining my weight loss!! Any questions, message me.

Tiff tells all
on 3/23/11 12:14 am - Ewa Beach, HI
RNY on 05/21/19
I would love to see some updated statistic based on a larger patient group. 

Tiff

Current MD- Dr. Mikami, Honolulu Hawaii

Lapband 14cc AP Lg in 2008- slipped and removed 2016 -VSG July 21, 2016-dx Gerd

** RNY Revision 05/21/2019 **

"A few drops of hope can water and nourish our garden" - Jean M

Bette B.
on 3/23/11 12:16 am
 Me, too. It ****** me off when the naysayers post **** saying how crappy the band is, based on a study of less than a hundred people. ****!

    

Banded 10 years & maintaining my weight loss!! Any questions, message me.

Tiff tells all
on 3/23/11 12:20 am - Ewa Beach, HI
RNY on 05/21/19
I know of a doc in washington thats been tracking their patients long term. They wanted to keep their patient group so badly that they are now giving those that wanted to leave- FREE fills just to keep them in the statistics group.

I should call them and see if they have anything yet.

Tiff

Current MD- Dr. Mikami, Honolulu Hawaii

Lapband 14cc AP Lg in 2008- slipped and removed 2016 -VSG July 21, 2016-dx Gerd

** RNY Revision 05/21/2019 **

"A few drops of hope can water and nourish our garden" - Jean M

(deactivated member)
on 3/23/11 5:53 am - San Diego, CA
AMEN.  Hey researchers...PICK ME!!! PICK ME!!!!!  Biased-asses.
crystal M.
on 3/23/11 12:30 am - Joliet, IL

You know I was thinking the same thing when someone posted the results of some research done.  I was thinking that is no where enough people to get an accurate accounting of just how well or how bad the band does. 

Stephanie M.
on 3/23/11 12:41 am, edited 3/23/11 12:47 am
Right on, Bette! Every time one of these "reports" or "studies" is posted as the benchmark for making a life-changing decision, is really chaps my *ss. I was cruising the Main* board yesterday, just for *hits and giggles and came across the 80+ person "study" from what, 1994-2001...

Of course, the usual suspects are there just drinking the "koolaid"...

For any newbies reading this...when you do research look at the dates of the studies and the number of people studied and read the whole thing...some people are known for posting just bits and pieces that support their personal opinion, so beware!

*had the wrong board but the poster is a DS'r
Here is the post:

Post Reply Topic: Lap-Band Outcomes Called Poor Over Time

 

  6-7-13 band removed. No revision. Facebook  Failed Lapbands and Realize Bands group and WLS-Support for Regain and Revision Group

              

Kate -True Brit
on 3/23/11 3:58 am - UK

Here are studies of THOUSANDS!

Please note (as my doc pointed out) that the first set all deal with bands implanted using the older perigastric technique which had a HIGHER complication rate than the pars flaccida which is now used. I do not know the country of origin of the studies, neither have I read them myself. I was given a warning that the journal in which they appear is strictly copyright and so I am not publishing that on the net! But if anyone wants to know, PM me.  I am not clear on copyright law and don't want to fall foul of it!

Clearly the results are not consistent!

                     patients     over time     port/tubing probs   slips/dilation    erosion   re-ops

Favrotti           1791           12 years           11.2%                   3.9%               0.9%        5.9%
Vertuyen         543              7                         2.9                       4.6                   0.9            6.8
Weiner            984              8                         2.5                       4.5                   0.3            3.9
O'Brien           709              6                          3.6                    12.5                   2.8           18.9
Chevalier      1000            7                          5.7                     10.4                  0.3             11.0
Zehetner         190             6                         2.6                       2.6                   2.1             8.5
Zinzindohoue  500           3                          7.8                       8.6                     0              10.4
Tolonen            280           7                          10.6                     6.5                   3.3            24.4
Miceletto           684           5                          6.8                        6.1                    1.0            6.3
Dargent           1180           7                         none stated       8.8                     1.8           12.7

The following are shorter term studies all using the more modern pars flaccida technique.

Ponce            1014             4                         1.2                        2.3                    0.2         8 removed
parikh              749              3                         2.4                        2.9                   0.1           10.7
Holloway          500             3                        9.2                        5.0                   1.0           not stated
Watkins          2411            3                         2.3                        5.1                   0.1              8
Singhal           1140            3                        0.35                      0.26                  0.09        2.1     

Kate
 

Highest 290, Banded - 248   Lowest 139 (too thin!). Comfort zone 155-165.

Happily banded since May 2006.  Regain of 28lbs 2013-14.  ALL GONE!

But some has returned! Up to 175, argh! Off we go again,

   

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